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US Politics: Mad Max Beyond Corona Dome

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14 minutes ago, Mexal said:

 

im shocked, shocked that a GOP bill would be just a hand out to the rich and a fuck you to everyone else. Shocked!

 

 

 

well.. not that shocked

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Just one more brick in the wall of the Trump administration's ineptitude:

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President Donald Trump’s directive for governors to buy their own medical supplies to fight the coronavirus has run into a big problem -- the federal government.

Massachusetts Governor Charlie Baker told Trump during a video conference on Thursday that his state three times lost out to the federal government on purchases of critical supplies, creating an awkward moment during the made-for-TV event at Federal Emergency Management Agency headquarters in Washington.

Wish I could say I'm surprised.

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28 minutes ago, Mexal said:

 

Just selfishly from my own little corner of the universe I'm curious what the Democrats have in mind for that final bullet point on student loans.   Never let a crisis go to waste!

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4 minutes ago, Simon Steele said:

Or, some other stuff about stupid libertarians. 

We're about to see a real time example of how libertarianism kills in the coming months.  

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Just one economist's prediction, but still... holy fuck...

I've thought for a while that the estimates from Goldman Sachs and others were too rosy, but I didn't think it'd be this rough either. Unless Congress can pass a much, much larger bill than even $2 trillion, I think we're at the point the pain and suffering from the economic collapse is getting worse than letting the virus run free.  Assuming this prediction holds true.

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Aaron Ross Sorkin who wrote the Too Big to Fail book suggests the only solution to the economic side of things is something like a $10 Trillion bill that gives guaranteed interest-free loans to virtually the entire economy to be paid back over a 5 year term after the crisis.  To individuals and businesses.

 

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21 minutes ago, Triskele said:

We're about to see a real time example of how libertarianism kills in the coming months.  

He's not just any libertarian, but one that has made anti-vaccine comments. This could only be some sort of divine retribution/karma/justice.

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28 minutes ago, Simon Steele said:

Rand Paul, first senate member with confirmed Coronavirus.

I'll hold back my impulsive comments like "it couldn't have happened to a better guy." Or, "Why are you getting tested with no symptoms when millions of Americans have symptoms and can't get tested?" Or, some other stuff about stupid libertarians. 

Not to mention that he took a test "in an abundance of caution" but rather than self-quarantine himself, he went to lunch with colleagues and continued to use the Senate gym/pool. So much for "an abundance of caution".

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4 minutes ago, Mexal said:

Not to mention that he took a test "in an abundance of caution" but rather than self-quarantine himself, he went to lunch with colleagues and continued to use the Senate gym/pool. So much for "an abundance of caution".

Remember the guy on the Jet Blue flight to Florida who caused an uproar because upon landing he saw a message he tested positive? How outraged folks were? The guy had a face mask on and wore gloves.

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Mike Lee of Utah is self-isolating, but for some reason they won't test him. Like Paul, he has no symptoms, but he's been working closley with Paul.

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We're going to hear a shocking number in this package, and it won't help those most in need. Watch these wolves. 

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This guy Navarro at the podium just said "allegistly" like combining allegedly with legislature or something when he meant allegedly.  

 

We're all going to die.  

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Biden's campaign announced his first presentation/shadow briefing will be around 11:30AM (Eastern time) tomorrow, for those wondering where he's at.

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Posted (edited)

It looks as though the procedural vote to end cloture has failed in the Senate. Can someone explain the significance of this to me and why it isn’t going to pass/what needs to change for the next bill to do so?

Edited by Ghjhero

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3 minutes ago, Ghjhero said:

It looks as though the procedural vote to end cloture has failed in the Senate. Can someone explain the significance of this to me and why it isn’t going to pass/what needs to change for the next bill to do so?

It means the markets are going to tank again tomorrow.

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7 minutes ago, Ghjhero said:

It looks as though the procedural vote to end cloture has failed in the Senate. Can someone explain the significance of this to me and why it isn’t going to pass/what needs to change for the next bill to do so?

Not be written by Republicans or else there should be no discussions of any kind. In fact, Republicans shouldn't be in the same state where the bill is written.

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12 minutes ago, Ghjhero said:

It looks as though the procedural vote to end cloture has failed in the Senate. Can someone explain the significance of this to me and why it isn’t going to pass/what needs to change for the next bill to do so?

Democrats have voiced various objections to the Republican/Senate package:

Democrats, for their part, continued to push for stronger protections for workers and raised alarms about the scope of some funding levels and programs. Among the concerns, according to Democratic aides, was the size of a Treasury Department fund and the discretion Mr. Mnuchin and his lieutenants would have to decide who would receive those funds, as well as how quickly the administration would have to disclose loans or loan guarantees made to companies and industries.

Democrats have also voiced concerns that the bill does not contain enough barriers to prevent industries from laying off their work forces after receiving federal funds, and are pushing for giving grants instead of loans to airlines.

 

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Posted (edited)

Will Typhoid Rand cost Republicans their Senate Majority?

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/03/22/covid-19-updates-senate-expected-vote-coronavirus-aid/2894053001/

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Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., left the Capitol on Sunday morning after learning he had tested positive for COVID-19. Within hours, two other GOP senators – Mike Lee and Mitt Romney, both of Utah – said they would self-quarantine because of their contacts with Paul.

Republicans hold 53 Senate seats, while Democrats hold 45. The Senate has two Independents, both of whom caucus with the Democrats.

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said the virus "has arrived" in the Senate and notes that at least 5 senators are in quarantine.

No other senator has tested positive for the virus besides Paul. But before the Kentucky Republican’s disclosure on Sunday, several other GOP senators had gone into isolation because of possible exposure to the virus, including Sens. Rick Scott of Florida and Cory Gardner of Colorado.

 

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