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5 minutes ago, ThinkerX said:

There are a slew of right wing posters on my Facebook gleefully pointing out the infection rate seems to be leveling out - for which they give Trump full credit. Most of that lot believes this will be over soon.  They don't handle even mild criticism well.

Levelling out? Levelling out?

:eek:

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Trump being Trump?  Another NYT article (behind a paywall) mentions how Trump apparently personally nixed a deal that might have helped involving the auto companies doing some retooling

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/27/trump-ventilators-coronavirus-cuomo-new-york

Trump told Hannity: “I don’t believe you need 40,000 or 30,000 ventilators. You go into major hospitals sometimes, and they’ll have two ventilators. And now all of a sudden they’re saying, ‘Can we order 30,000 ventilators?’”

The president’s comments appeared to be in response to New York’s governor, Andrew Cuomo, who had called for 30,000 ventilators, explaining that state hospitals had only 4,000 in the system at the beginning of the outbreak.

Many states across the US are scrambling to buy ventilators, often at inflated rates.

In New York state, hospitals are struggling to keep up with a spike in patients. As of Friday, 44,635 cases had been confirmed in the state, resulting in 519 deaths, Cuomo said.

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3 minutes ago, Fragile Bird said:

Levelling out? Levelling out?

:eek:

they don't appear to grasp the concept of 'near exponential growth.'  I tried explaining this to one of my conservative coworkers a few pages ago; his reaction was much the same as these people 'huh? that can't be right.'

Also (again linked to a page or three back) is a right wing article pointing out the COVID 19 numbers are all wrong; according to them we are on the downside of the curve because the true CV pandemic was over the holidaze.  (and because a lot of people were deathly ill in that time frame, the claim garners a bit of traction)

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This potentially adds a whole new dimension to the misery (has Jace gotten around to selecting her apocalypse outfit yet?).  Not mentioned is that many of the endangered workers in question are almost certainly not in the US legally.  Which presumably means Team Trumps first response will be to deport as many as possible, regardless of consequences to the nations food supply.   

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/the-workers-who-supply-the-worlds-food-are-starting-to-get-sick/ar-BB11Mhmr?li=BBnbfcN&ocid=msnclassic

 

In all likelihood, the number of cases will keep going up at meat plants, farms, warehouses and packaging factories across the globe.

The infections speak to a growing threat to the world’s food supplies. Massive operations where workers pick berries together, cut meat side-by-side on a production line or load warehouse trucks in sometimes close proximity risk slowing down. Some facilities may have to shutter for cleaning and worker quarantines. Produce could end up rotting in fields if there aren’t enough healthy workers.

“If we can’t flatten the curve, then that is going to affect farmers and farm laborers -- and then we have to make choices about which crops we harvest and which ones we don’t,” said Al Stehly, who operates a farm-management business in California’s North San Diego County, growing about 250 acres of citrus crops, 250 acres of organic avocados and 60 acres of wine grapes. “We hope no one gets sick. But I would expect some of us are going to get the virus.”

To be clear, the food from a plant where infection pops up doesn’t pose health concerns because by all accounts Covid-19 isn’t a food-borne illness. Supplies from a farm or a production plant with a confirmed case can still be sent out for distribution.

And it’s important to note that so far there’s been no major interruptions to food supplies. Inventories are still ample, and major bottlenecks have not yet developed in the supply chains, which tend to react quickly to changing situations.

 

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Red April
What happens on the first of the month when residents, restaurants, and retail stores don’t pay rent?

https://slate.com/business/2020/03/coronavirus-rent-landlords-strike-unemployment.html

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Residents alone owe $40 billion for the month. Retail and restaurants owe something on the same scale. April 1 will bring contract chaos when thousands of leaseholders decide not to pay, pushing a tide of unpaid debts from lessees to owners to banks—and sometime soon, a flood of litigation back from banks to owners to lessees.

Weirdly enough, the April rent strike is being led by Bolshevik institutions like Mattress Firm, Subway, and the Cheesecake Factory. On March 18, Cheesecake Factory CEO David Overton asked landlords for patience and help—and announced the restaurant would not be paying rent in April. Mattress Firm has told its landlords the same. And Subway declared the pandemic a force majeure, a legal term for an unforeseen event that voids contract obligations.

Commercial landlords perceive chains as credit-worthy and dependable partners, to the extent that a lease with Citibank or CVS can boost a building’s sale price vs. a mom-and-pop toy store paying the same amount. Pandemic surprise: When it comes to contract-breaking and collective action, chains are lawyered up and ready for Red April.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Martell Spy said:

[From the link] Weirdly enough, the April rent strike is being led by Bolshevik institutions like Mattress Firm, Subway, and the Cheesecake Factory.

Heh.  Sounds like at least one Slate journalist if full of smartass today.

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1 hour ago, ThinkerX said:

they don't appear to grasp the concept of 'near exponential growth.'  I tried explaining this to one of my conservative coworkers a few pages ago; his reaction was much the same as these people 'huh? that can't be right.'

Also (again linked to a page or three back) is a right wing article pointing out the COVID 19 numbers are all wrong; according to them we are on the downside of the curve because the true CV pandemic was over the holidaze.  (and because a lot of people were deathly ill in that time frame, the claim garners a bit of traction)

I remember back in highschool math classes,  pandemic infections were one of the main examples used to illustrate exponential growth.  Is that not the case for Americans?

Edited by SpaceChampion

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6 minutes ago, SpaceChampion said:

I remember back in highschool math classes,  pandemic infections were one of the main examples used to illustrate exponential growth.  Is that not the case for Americans?

You think they still teach the kids math? Ha! Clearly someone missed his How To Be TikTok Famous 101 class. 

Loser! 

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7 minutes ago, SpaceChampion said:

I remember back in highschool math classes,  pandemic infections were one of the main examples used to illustrate exponential growth.  Is that not the case for Americans?

Non-linear mathematics is largely avoided in American education where possible.

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I just saw Trump signing the stimulus bill. No Democrats were invited to the ceremony, Republicans only.

Fuckers.

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Bloody hell. I also just saw a comment from the governor of Michigan (‘that woman’) who said when Trump announced that states should do things by themselves they started looking for all kinds of supplies, but some of the suppliers told them they were instructed not to deal with Michigan.

What fucking fuckers.

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5 minutes ago, Fragile Bird said:

Bloody hell. I also just saw a comment from the governor of Michigan (‘that woman’) who said when Trump announced that states should do things by themselves they started looking for all kinds of supplies, but some of the suppliers told them they were instructed not to deal with Michigan.

What fucking fuckers.

This. This just...sums up everything so well.

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OOOOOh, Nevada has asked for testkits 4 times and have received none. Casino owner Adelson shipped in 1,000 from Macau.

Where are these millions of testkits?

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43 minutes ago, Fragile Bird said:

I just saw Trump signing the stimulus bill. No Democrats were invited to the ceremony, Republicans only.

Fuckers.

Who cares. And besides, they just became socialists! 

36 minutes ago, Fragile Bird said:

Bloody hell. I also just saw a comment from the governor of Michigan (‘that woman’) who said when Trump announced that states should do things by themselves they started looking for all kinds of supplies, but some of the suppliers told them they were instructed not to deal with Michigan.

What fucking fuckers.

Now this is something to care about, especially considering Republicans rat-fucked MI before over Flint. If that woman can prove it, it would be devastating. Also, that woman keeps getting a ton of national air time, inching her closer to being a VP pick. 

That BIRD! does know these things do not happen by coincidence, right? 

19 minutes ago, Fragile Bird said:

OOOOOh, Nevada has asked for testkits 4 times and have received none. Casino owner Adelson shipped in 1,000 from Macau.

Where are these millions of testkits?

Where are his billions of dollars? These things answer themselves with an obvious conman
 

Edited by Tywin et al.

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3 hours ago, Jace, Basilissa said:

I'll take my side's rapist. It's one thing to have treated governing a state as a zero-sum exercise of political gamesmanship but Republicans literally set the decency bar at 0.

Joe could rape ten women this month and as long as he looks moderately ashamed of himself when questioned, he's my guy.

I'm voting Biden because he's still better than Trump, but I'm not happy about it.  He's a terrible candidate that I can see losing in November despite running against a complete idiot that has now caused the death of thousands.  

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1 hour ago, Martell Spy said:

What happens on the first of the month when residents, restaurants, and retail stores don’t pay rent?

Nothing will happen in April. Quite a few states have explicitly forbidden evictions and pretty much everyone has told landlords to let renters get away with it for now. However... the rent is not forgiven, it's merely delayed and at some point the pandemic will end and all those bills will come due...

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So a lot of people are approving of trump right now but they're still not voting for him. 

 

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Edit: wrong thread.   

Edited by Darzin

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3 hours ago, Kalbear said:

I think it probably is a bit less credible, in that she is a person who was active in political support and has been very pro-Putin in the past. That isn't slamming her in any way - it's simply pointing out that she has credible motives to actually want him to fail in some way, whereas Ford was a complete nobody who isn't particularly affected by Kavanaugh. 

In addition, to my knowledge there's no contemporaneous or other history of her talking about this in the past, unlike Ford. There are no others coming forward to corroborate it or her study. Again, I would 100% believe that Biden did this without any real issue, but she isn't quite as easily credible. 

She told at the time her mom (now dead), her brother, and a friend, both who have confirmed her account.  

The pro Russia and Putin stuff doesn't hurt her credibility for me.  I don't see this as being motivated by a desire to help Putin or Russia.  Just looks a smear job to me.

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28 minutes ago, Mudguard said:

I'm voting Biden because he's still better than Trump, but I'm not happy about it.  He's a terrible candidate that I can see losing in November despite running against a complete idiot that has now caused the death of thousands.  

Biden has the same flaws as Trump, but then Trump has so many more. Trump is obviously far worse and forget a recession in the fall, "instant recession" is now a term. People are on a sugar high. It won't last. I keep hearing 30% unemployment is the number a lot of people are looking at for the end of the quarter. Not that it will actually be that bad, but could it be that bad? If we're in that kind of situation, how many things are a complete fucking disaster? 

What is coming will be interesting. There are so many different outcomes, but one factor is known, we will spend. 

As a 31 year old, why can't any global event actually make the world I want to live in be better? 

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