Hugorfonics Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 Quote Tyrion speared a goose liver on the point of his knife. No man is as cursed as the kinslayer, he mused, but I could learn to like this hell. Aside from Tyrion, who has found comrades he calls brothers and is now beginning to restructure his life, theres Stannis was awarded with Renlys army Euron was awarded with Balons seat Brynden Rivers has lived for a considerable length Are there any other kinslayers in asoiaf? And what was the manner in which they were cursed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alyn Oakenfist Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 First off the curse of the kinslayer is probably an invention designed to avoid massive amounts of kinslaying, and probably has saved a lot of elder brothers. That being said there are some kinslayers that are ,,cursed" so to say. Theon, given that the kids he killed were almost certainly his. Then Stannis, who was defeated by the literal shadow of his brother. Maegor who was killed by the Throne he gained from kinslaying. Robert (if Brynden counts, then so does Robert) who's prize for killing Rhaegar brought him only misery. Similarly Maekar, who became heir, but the Throne only gave him misery. Maelys, who's victory over his cousin made him the eader of the 5th Blackfyre rebellion and assured his death. 43 minutes ago, Hugorfonics said: Brynden Rivers has lived for a considerable length If that's what you call living then yes. There seems to be a trend of kinslayers prizes turning sour in their mouth and doing more harm to them in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenin Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 2 hours ago, Alyn Oakenfist said: Robert (if Brynden counts, then so does Robert) who's prize for killing Rhaegar brought him only misery. Robert was Rhaegar's second cousin. Daemon was Brynden's own brother and Aegon and Aemon his own nephews. There is a reason no one calls Robert kinslayer. 3 hours ago, Hugorfonics said: Aside from Tyrion, who has found comrades he calls brothers and is now beginning to restructure his life, theres Stannis was awarded with Renlys army Euron was awarded with Balons seat Brynden Rivers has lived for a considerable length Are there any other kinslayers in asoiaf? And what was the manner in which they were cursed? It's not how they start but how they end. Stannis arc is not very promising, neither is Euron and certainly Bloodraven's end wasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alyn Oakenfist Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 Just now, frenin said: Daemon was Brynden's own brother and Aegon and Aemon his own nephews He didn't kill them though. They died in battle at the hand of archers, not at his hands. The only kinslaying he is guilty of if Aenys. 1 minute ago, frenin said: It's not how they start but how they end. Stannis arc is not very promising, neither is Euron and certainly Bloodraven's end wasn't. Exactly. In the end the fruits of kinslaying seem to turn sour in the mouth of the perpetrators (as will it do for Dany, when she takes the IT, but is considered exactly what she always hated, an usurper). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenin Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Alyn Oakenfist said: He didn't kill them though. They died in battle at the hand of archers, not at his hands. The only kinslaying he is guilty of if Aenys. Ordered by him... Which makes him a kinslayer in the eyes of everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King17 Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 Well Brynden served as hand and as Lord commander of the nights watch neither of which are particular joyfull jobs one could say he was punished by that. Stannis: his men burnt on the blackwater and he failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugorfonics Posted April 19, 2020 Author Share Posted April 19, 2020 5 minutes ago, King17 said: Well Brynden served as hand and as Lord commander of the nights watch neither of which are particular joyfull jobs one could say he was punished by that. Stannis: his men burnt on the blackwater and he failed. Brynden going to the wall is no fun, sure. But a curse? What about Aemon and their whole squad, were they kinslayers? Shit went bad for BR sure, but it went worse for his Blackfyre nephews. Stannis too, his men burnt but now he has new men and Renlys still dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King17 Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 12 minutes ago, Hugorfonics said: Brynden going to the wall is no fun, sure. But a curse? What about Aemon and their whole squad, were they kinslayers? Shit went bad for BR sure, but it went worse for his Blackfyre nephews. Stannis too, his men burnt but now he has new men and Renlys still dead. His time as hand was filled with difficulty. No one said a curse meant death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugorfonics Posted April 19, 2020 Author Share Posted April 19, 2020 13 minutes ago, King17 said: His time as hand was filled with difficulty. It's a difficult job. All of Aerys' failed, so did Roberts and Joffs 14 minutes ago, King17 said: No one said a curse meant death. Good point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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