Paxter Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Not feeling that cheery this week. How is Manitoba at 7,000 active cases?! Quebec does seem to be bending the curve a little better this time. But other than that, the trends don't look good. I think we are looking on track at the national level to match spring peaks in terms of fatalities by early '21. ON will lock down properly soon too I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fragile Bird Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Update Nov. 8 9 10 11 12 13 BC 536 462 525 536 594 617 AB 727 644 713 672 860 907 SK 159 190 127 112 111 81 MB 441 365 384 431 474 437 ON 1328 1242 1388 1426 1575 1396 PQ 1397 1169 1162 1378 1365 1211 Atl-4 2 2 4 5 1 4 North 1 2 1 5 Total 4591 4074 4303 4562 4981 4658 Everybody's setting records. The Alberta numbers make my eyes hurt. BC has totally fallen off their holier-than-thou perch. Poor Manitoba. People just don't get it in places around Toronto. When the police have to go in and break up Diwali crowds, you really have to shake your head. I was listening to a part of Cross Canada Check-up on Sunday on CBC radio (that's the old name, is it still called that?) and I heard a Toronto bar owner blame "big box stores and churches". I don't think Costco has been found to be a hotspot, and the numbers of Covid-19 cases at RC churches is something like 0.0025% of attendees. My church hasn't had a single case, but after going twice just to show support I haven't been back. Home is where the heart is. I'll do another update with the weekend numbers tomorrow. Poor Nunavut, after going so far for so long with no cases they now have 26. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fragile Bird Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Sad news from Nunavut today. They’ve gone from zero cases last week to 26 this week to 60 today. Because all the settlements were living in a Covid-free bubble, when it finally hit them everyone had been visiting each other’s communities and spreading the virus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kairparavel Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 This is an interesting article, linking two major things: public health officials setting public health policy and the will of the people. Also the thought of gathering with nine other people gives me hives. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/18/opinion/covid-halifax-nova-scotia-canada.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paxter Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Urgh. We are now edging closer to 100 deaths / day Canada wide. And that's with ON and QC still well below their spring peaks in terms of fatalities. I am predicting around 200-250 / day by this time next month (likely much more if AB and BC really explode). Back home, the state of South Australia recorded an outbreak of 20 cases (lol) and is in a full week-long lockdown. Now that's a circuit breaker! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyria Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 37 minutes ago, kairparavel said: This is an interesting article, linking two major things: public health officials setting public health policy and the will of the people. Also the thought of gathering with nine other people gives me hives. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/18/opinion/covid-halifax-nova-scotia-canada.html Kind of misleading as here in NS we're at 24 cases now. I know that sounds low, but we were at zero for a while until about a month ago (I think? Time...what is time these days...). Dr. Strang is pretty awesome though, and our politicians were/are on board. There's always the grumbles from the opposition party (well one, guess which!), and the "taking away my freedumb" people, but we have fared really, really well here. Also, low housing prices?!? Maybe compared to big cities, but not really in comparison to wages here, especially right on the peninsula where we live. Lucky we bought when we did four years ago, because it exploded right after that. If we sold now, we'd easily get twice what we paid, which is nice for us! I think the biggest gathering we did was a month ago when we had a get together at our place for eight people when our close friends moved out of province. We just had a feast outside on the deck. Those friends were our initial bubble in the early days when things settled down here, because our dogs are best friends. Family be damned, after a few months of no contact, our doggos needed play dates! But overall, yeah. Lovin' the bubble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paxter Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 I only know about four people total in Toronto so the bubbling has been easy on my end... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fragile Bird Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 17 minutes ago, Paxter said: I only know about four people total in Toronto so the bubbling has been easy on my end... You know, if things get safe before you leave we really should have a get together! Vaccines for all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kairparavel Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 @Tyria yeah, I felt that the article wasn't full picture and a few commenters on the article who were from NS pointed that out, especially about new cases. But either way it's nice that's it's been handled rather well and allowed for the expanded provincial bubble. One of the reasons I miss living in Canada so much. [Caveat of Ontario and Quebec being kind of WTF in their policies and handling of things.] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fragile Bird Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Ford announced that we should stay tuned for Friday today. I guess new restrictions will be announced then. One of the restrictions will be about religious services. Our parish priest posted an announcement that Sunday mass will be restricted to 50 people starting this Sunday. That knocks out about half the current attendance. We haven’t had a single case, as I mentioned previously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGP Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 1 hour ago, kairparavel said: @Tyria yeah, I felt that the article wasn't full picture and a few commenters on the article who were from NS pointed that out, especially about new cases. But either way it's nice that's it's been handled rather well and allowed for the expanded provincial bubble. One of the reasons I miss living in Canada so much. [Caveat of Ontario and Quebec being kind of WTF in their policies and handling of things.] [looks at you in Albertan] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paxter Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Fragile Bird said: You know, if things get safe before you leave we really should have a get together! Vaccines for all! I'm up for that. If I get the promotion I've been angling for by the end of this year then I will stay until at least 2022. I have flights booked to Australia in Jan for an extended visit but I'm going to put my chances on actually flying at about 20%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fragile Bird Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 Update Nov. 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 BC 617 654 659 646 717 762 538 AB 907 1026 991 860 773 730 1105 SK 81 308 181 181 240 132 98 MB 437 239 494 392 270 400 475 ON 1396 1581 1248 1487 1249 1417 1210 PQ 1211 1448 1211 1218 982 1179 1207 Atl-4 4 14 7 10 11 14 5 North 5 14 8 35 10 5 Total 4658 5284 4791 4802 4277 4644 4643 Those numbers in the Atlantic bubble are beginning to worry me, and worrying people there as well, I guess. Nunavut has gone into lockdown. More restictions should be announced tomorrow in Ontario. And also tomorrow, Dr. Tam will be presenting a series of prjections, worst case scenario seeing Canada going to 60,000 cases a day. Stay tuned! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 Some idiot in Halifax, thrilled to get something with her name published anywhere, did an opinion piece in the NYT, boasting of how good they have it in Halifax, w/o infections, going to school, public events and entertainment and art, large dinner parties, no masks, etc. Because they closed their borders long ago. And it's only a long day's drive from NYC. And loads of NYers are now buying up property in Halifax. So this idiot fixed that covid-19 free life for ya, Halifax! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fragile Bird Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 So Toronto goes into lockdown for 28 days, starting Monday at 12:00 am. Get your non-essential shopping done now! Stores will only be able to do curbside pick-up again for those non-essentials. I guess grocery stores, Walmart and Costco will be open and line-ups are the mode again. And it's cold now. The Sobey's on the Queensway by the Humber River was already getting prepared, I saw they set up two large open-ended tents for folks to stand under while waiting. I guess more stores will set some up as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 Better sooner, rather than like here, later. Not until early December the soonest, it looks like for here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fragile Bird Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 6 minutes ago, Zorral said: Better sooner, rather than like here, later. Not until early December the soonest, it looks like for here. A friend of mine on Facebook who lives in New England has been doing a series of posts reviewing the numbers in the top ten states, comparing the situation on Oct. 12 with Nov. 20. I took a look at Canada, and our numbers have gone up a shocking 69% while the US numbers have only gone up 48%. However, we started with a much lower base. For Canada the numbers are 185,086 cases to 311,110 cases, for the US 8,077,244 to 11,873,863. As terrible as the jump in our numbers is, if the US had our rate of infection the US numbers would be 1,621,353 to 2,725,323. Imagine that! If Canada had US numbers, we would have gone from 897,471 to 1,319,318. To have 1.3M cases in Canada is unimaginable to me. We had such a big jump because while we have had high numbers in Ontario and Quebec, the west did a much better job controlling the virus. But then they started opening up, thinking they could handle things, and they have been racing to catch up with us here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paxter Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 The ON lockdown is at least two months too late. Cases have been increasing at a good pace since September, which would have been a better time to do a circuit breaker. And notwithstanding the self-defeating NYT piece, the actual analysis is not far off the mark. Places like Western Australia (closed border for many months) have had no local transmission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fragile Bird Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 5 minutes ago, Paxter said: The ON lockdown is at least two months too late. Cases have been increasing at a good pace since September, which would have been a better time to do a circuit breaker. And notwithstanding the self-defeating NYT piece, the actual analysis is not far off the mark. Places like Western Australia (closed border for many months) have had no local transmission. Yes, all the premiers seemed to take a lead from US states, talking about how they couldn’t bring in restrictive measures because it was hurting too many people. Maybe some schadenfreude was involved, “we can do it better than the Americans”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paxter Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Yeah I don’t think Canada has as much to crow about with this response. Still looking a bit better than Europe but that’s not the best benchmark either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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