The Grey Wolf Strikes Back Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 (edited) Can anyone give me advice regarding how to format artwork (maps, full-page illustrations, etc.)? Edited September 20, 2021 by The Grey Wolf Strikes Back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derfel Cadarn Posted September 24, 2021 Author Share Posted September 24, 2021 70 pages left to be edited in 2nd draft of The Blood Hour! Jumped from 122k words to just under 130k words. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lin Meili Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 On 9/21/2021 at 2:57 AM, The Grey Wolf Strikes Back said: Can anyone give me advice regarding how to format artwork (maps, full-page illustrations, etc.)? I haven't done it myself, but people normally add (insert) the images on their Word file. https://kdp.amazon.com/en_US/help/topic/G200645710 But one thing to keep in mind is that the size of your e-book is important. If the file size is big, Amazon adds a delivery fee for your e-book.So you have to keep your image file sizes small. The Grey Wolf Strikes Back 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grey Wolf Strikes Back Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 (edited) 13 hours ago, Lin Meili said: I haven't done it myself, but people normally add (insert) the images on their Word file. https://kdp.amazon.com/en_US/help/topic/G200645710 But one thing to keep in mind is that the size of your e-book is important. If the file size is big, Amazon adds a delivery fee for your e-book.So you have to keep your image file sizes small. Thanks. I have 17 pieces of artwork to go along with roughly 164 pages of text so hopefully that won't be an issue. Edited September 26, 2021 by The Grey Wolf Strikes Back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grey Wolf Strikes Back Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 Just checked. Including everything is impossible. On the bright side, I can include the four pics I commissioned for "Sun Tiger" and "Anathema (Part I)", which add up to 1.2 megabytes after resizing. On the other hand, that still leaves me with a bunch of unusable artwork I'd like to share with fans and followers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Patrek Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 Just do it later on, as your community grows. You can share those illustrations then. To a certain extent, any artwork beyond the map is meaningless in the greater scheme of things. If the stories aren't good and don't resonate with readers, no one will care about additional artwork. The Grey Wolf Strikes Back 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grey Wolf Strikes Back Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 @Lord Patrek Thanks for the advice. Now I have to decide between the story-specific artwork and the map (because the latter's huge in terms of pixels). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Patrek Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 You could simply put it up online and include a link to it in the ebook? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grey Wolf Strikes Back Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 2 hours ago, Lord Patrek said: You could simply put it up online and include a link to it in the ebook? Facepalm. This is what I get for posting late at night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centrist Simon Steele Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 On 9/20/2021 at 12:57 PM, The Grey Wolf Strikes Back said: Can anyone give me advice regarding how to format artwork (maps, full-page illustrations, etc.)? I truly think that's something to worry about later, and, for now, I'd say just be consistent in how you do it. You could look at Chicago Style guidelines as I hear that's the most commonly used formatting style guide in fiction writing--at the very least, it could help give you a format that you remain consistent to. The Grey Wolf Strikes Back 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lin Meili Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 You would need to reduce the file size of the images by compressing them. Yeah, it won't be as pretty but, let's face it, most people will be reading the ebook on their devices where they wouldn't get the full effect anyway. 9 hours ago, The Grey Wolf Strikes Back said: Just checked. Including everything is impossible. On the bright side, I can include the four pics I commissioned for "Sun Tiger" and "Anathema (Part I)", which add up to 1.2 megabytes after resizing. On the other hand, that still leaves me with a bunch of unusable artwork I'd like to share with fans and followers. The delivery fee is 15 cents per megabyte (Mb) for US sales. You could just eat the expense and price it higher. Hmm, I tried to look at examples and I found this book - https://www.amazon.com/Night-Lonesome-October-Roger-Zelazny-ebook/dp/B0936MN3K6/ It has a lot of illustrations but they are small black and white ones. The file size is 3958 KB which doesn't seem too bad though the book is priced higher than most. The Grey Wolf Strikes Back 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grey Wolf Strikes Back Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 (edited) @Lin Meili I'd be cutting it close even if I did raise the price that high and since this is going to be my first book I'd like to keep the price low to attract a wider audience. Therefore, I've decided to include at most the map as well as the four pics that go with "Sun Tiger" and "Anathema (Part I)", which would add up to roughly 2.3 megabytes. Since the text is less than 200 pages I assume the final size of the file will therefore clock in at around 3 megabytes. Of course, if I pick only the map or the four pics that'll go down to 2 megabytes. Decisions, decisions... Edited September 27, 2021 by The Grey Wolf Strikes Back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lin Meili Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 On 9/27/2021 at 7:57 PM, The Grey Wolf Strikes Back said: @Lin Meili I'd be cutting it close even if I did raise the price that high and since this is going to be my first book I'd like to keep the price low to attract a wider audience. Therefore, I've decided to include at most the map as well as the four pics that go with "Sun Tiger" and "Anathema (Part I)", which would add up to roughly 2.3 megabytes. Since the text is less than 200 pages I assume the final size of the file will therefore clock in at around 3 megabytes. Of course, if I pick only the map or the four pics that'll go down to 2 megabytes. Decisions, decisions... I think if it's the paperback there is no delivery fee. You could uh maybe put all the images in the paperback version but not in the ebook one? Unless you print it color, it probably costs the same since Amazon only charged printing costs by the page, not by file size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ordos Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 (edited) I'm pushing towards finishing my book, but I just realized how much more material I still have to write. Chapter 12 will be too long so I will have to finish with chapter 13. Chapter 12 describes life on a ship out at sea. Chapter 13 will include the climactic storm and reaching the island. Edited September 30, 2021 by Ordos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grey Wolf Strikes Back Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 10 hours ago, Lin Meili said: I think if it's the paperback there is no delivery fee. You could uh maybe put all the images in the paperback version but not in the ebook one? Unless you print it color, it probably costs the same since Amazon only charged printing costs by the page, not by file size. Is uploading a separate manuscript more difficult than converting one to the other? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Patrek Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 I maintain that you're worrying for nothing. Artwork is meaningless at this point. I know that you've paid money and would like to include those illustrations in the final version. But all you should concentrate on is the text. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grey Wolf Strikes Back Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 Was thinking of including at least the map but you make a good point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lin Meili Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 On 9/30/2021 at 7:49 PM, The Grey Wolf Strikes Back said: Is uploading a separate manuscript more difficult than converting one to the other? My goodness! I have no idea. I use a free service that does the manuscript formatting for me (Reedsy). Of course, you have to upload a separate manuscript on Amazon's KDP publishing page because paperbacks are formatted differently. If you mean if it will be different on your formatting software/service (like if you use Vellum), no idea but I'm sure it's not that hard. Wait, I have something to show you! If you have a lot of images you commissioned, then you can use it on your Amazon page so it doesn't go to waste. https://kdp.amazon.com/en_US/help/topic/GCKLH8V7ULLD5EXY You can also use it on your website. I assume you have one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grey Wolf Strikes Back Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, Lin Meili said: My goodness! I have no idea. I use a free service that does the manuscript formatting for me (Reedsy). Of course, you have to upload a separate manuscript on Amazon's KDP publishing page because paperbacks are formatted differently. If you mean if it will be different on your formatting software/service (like if you use Vellum), no idea but I'm sure it's not that hard. Wait, I have something to show you! If you have a lot of images you commissioned, then you can use it on your Amazon page so it doesn't go to waste. https://kdp.amazon.com/en_US/help/topic/GCKLH8V7ULLD5EXY You can also use it on your website. I assume you have one? Thanks. That could work. Sorry for asking so many questions of you. Finished editing the last story and wrote a fifth vignette titled "Vanitas". I have a blog on Tumblr that I update from time to time. (Hardly use my Facebook account and refuse to use Twitter.) Edited October 4, 2021 by The Grey Wolf Strikes Back Lin Meili 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Patrek Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 I maintain that you shouldn't be wasting time and energy on the artwork. This close to the pub date, you guys should elaborate a strategy planning how you are going to raise awareness and get the word out on this anthology. Because if nobody buys it, the artwork will be meaningless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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