How will Jon's appearance change after he is ressurected?

[King Adrian Storm]

From what we've seen from previously ressurected people, their appearance tends to change a lot once they come back. I've seen a youtube video talking about this a long time ago. Lady Stonehearts hair had turned white when she came back. Her and Beric both had eyes described as fiery. Of course his knife wounds will remain, but his clothes would cover that up. I think a Jon with long white hair and fiery eyes would be badass, and it would make him look more like a Targaryen. (I know they have silver hair, but it's close enough). Maybe this will sway more people to believe he's r+l=j. I also believe drastically changing his appearance would be a good way of showing how strong of a toll this experience has had on him. He'll look like an entriely different person. And if you haven't noticed White hair and fiery red eyes, would make him look like Ghost, which is very interesting. It would add to the whole Jon and Ghost spirit's merging idea. What do you think?

[broken one]

catelyn rot for some time and beric was ressurected many times. it is said that with every ressurection one loses part of... personality? I guess as it will be jon's first time and melisandre is far better specialist than thoros, the change should be rather subtle. 

 

[Lord Lannister]

I think he'll look exactly the same save for some knife scars.

[Megorova]

It's not definite that Jon died from those wounds. It isn't clear how serious those wounds are. They may not be lethal, not even life-threatening.

First wound was a slight nick on a side of his neck. He could have nicked himself like that while shaving. Not serious. Then there was second stab in his belly, and a third between his shoulderblades. Though we should consider what he was wearing when he was attacked, and in what condition were people that attacked him. The guy who stabbed him in his belly was shaking and afraid, it's likely that the stab was weak, and didn't reached deep (also he was expecting that that first guy will cut Jon's throat, so he didn't expected that he will have to seriously attack Jon after that, and thus with his attack he didn't aimed to kill Jon. Otherwise he would have stabbed him in his heart, not in his belly). If his liver, or kidneys, or other internal organs weren't stabbed, then that wound is also not serious. Painful, but not deadly. If he was wearing ringmail, boiled leather, wool, then it's likely that both daggers didn't penetrated deeply, and the last one could have went an inch or so under his skin and was stopped by a bone of his shoulderblade.

Did GRRM ever anywhere said that Jon died, or will die as a result of that attack?

Also, even if he did died, it's more likely that if/when he will be resurrected, he will have a change of personality, not a change in looks.

[kissdbyfire]

It won’t, and he won’t [need resurrection].

[Curled Finger]

We know that simple stress can change the color of our hair and skin while we are alive--imagine what happens when you die a violent horrible death or get really and truly shanked by people you trusted!  Personally, I hope we get to see some purple in those dark grey eyes whether Jon is dead or not.  A small "tell" of Jon's true heritage would be cool.  

[Haus Berlin]

I don't expect Jon's resurrection, but I watch out for a very much altered Jon all the same.

What if Melissandre puts him under her glamor? Reading his/her mind would be something very bewildering.

[Curled Finger]

Hey @Haus Berlin--really good to see you.  That's a scary concept, Jon under Mel's control.  It would be a total game changer. 

[rotting sea cow]

Jon's body will likely be stored in the ice cells for a while. Since ice preserves, most likely his body will not be as damaged as LS or Beric.

The question is of course what will happen once he is resurrected. There is a theory that at some point his body will be placed in a firepit but it won't burn, mirroring Dany's birth of dragons. Maybe he will come back changed? With silver hair?

I don't like much the last part actually.

[Alexis-something-Rose]

49 minutes ago, rotting sea cow said:

With silver hair?

Or no hair at all? I think Dany seeing a great wolf and a man wreathed in flames is a massive hint as to what will be going down with Jon. 

[Makk]

5 hours ago, broken one said:

catelyn rot for some time and beric was ressurected many times. it is said that with every ressurection one loses part of... personality? I guess as it will be jon's first time and melisandre is far better specialist than thoros, the change should be rather subtle. 

Has Melisandre ever resurrected anyone? I'm not convinced she is even able to or will be the one to bring Jon back, I think just claiming she had other powers while Thoros did not is not evidence to support this assertion. It is possible she could burn Shireen to do it and that would be quite a different ritual so who knows. Also note that Beric's and Catelyns resurrections were a bit different as Beric actually passed on to bring Catelyn back. I personally think it will be Catelyn who brings Jon back but very few people think that is likely.

[Here's Looking At You, Kid]

Jon, if he gets resurrected, will come back as a wight.  The Others will be the ones to reanimate his corpse.  So he will be very pale and his body will be cold.  His blood will no longer flow.  He will literally be an iceman.  He will no longer be human. 

[Brandon Ice-Eyes]

15 hours ago, kissdbyfire said:

It won’t, and he won’t [need resurrection].

How come you don’t think Jon’s dead? 

[broken one]

13 hours ago, Makk said:

Has Melisandre ever resurrected anyone? I'm not convinced she is even able to or will be the one to bring Jon back, I think just claiming she had other powers while Thoros did not is not evidence to support this assertion.

As far as I remember from her chapter she stood out in divination among other priests. She is also powerful, experienced shadow binder... and Thoros (according to himself) was not very good at anything except for having fun. Out of a sudden he starts bringing people back to life. And as the last kiss seems to be standard gesture among the red priests... if Thoros can do it then more talented and skilled priests should be able to do it too,  at least as good as him. Why not?

 

[kissdbyfire]

45 minutes ago, broken one said:

As far as I remember from her chapter she stood out in divination among other priests. She is also powerful, experienced shadow binder... and Thoros (according to himself) was not very good at anything except for having fun. Out of a sudden he starts bringing people back to life. And as the last kiss seems to be standard gesture among the red priests... if Thoros can do it then more talented and skilled priests should be able to do it too,  at least as good as him. Why not?

 

Perhaps because what Thoros has done has nothing to do w/ Red Rahloo but rather the Hollow Hill? 

[broken one]

20 minutes ago, kissdbyfire said:

Perhaps because what Thoros has done has nothing to do w/ Red Rahloo but rather the Hollow Hill? 

if so I must be missing something. something big.

[Alexis-something-Rose]

1 hour ago, kissdbyfire said:

Perhaps because what Thoros has done has nothing to do w/ Red Rahloo but rather the Hollow Hill? 

To be fair, the first time Thoros brought Beric back, it was in a grove of ash. I don't know if it's meant to be ironic, with the whole filling Beric with fire and turning him into a wight in that sort of setting.

As far as Mel goes and whatever goes on with Jon, she's had the vision of him being a man, then being a wolf, then being a man. So I don't see her giving Jon the last kiss, just based on that. Once she understands what the vision, she will follow a different course. 

[Lord Varys]

I don't think he will physically change all that much, but considering he is one of the special ones with pretty big dose of 'the golden blood of Old Valyria' we can expect that said blood is going to react very strongly with the fire magic that is going to resurrect his body, to the point that Jon Snow will feel and be more like Melisandre of Asshai then any other character we have seen so far (with the possible exception of Moqorro, if one imagines/sees him as a person who was completely burned).

I'm not thinking about red hair there, but about him being imbued with living fire, meaning him being unnaturally hot to the touch and his mortal wounds - which should be many - not properly healing but instead giving away constant heat, possibly even smoke. There will be a certainly parallel there to Victarion, although Jon is likely going to look more human than Vic's burned parts are looking right now.

His blood should also be fundamentally changed, being able to react with and ignite Valyrian steel - creating a proper Lightbringer instead of Beric's little freak version from Longclaw's raw material - as well as other swords and weapons.

Aside from that I don't think his looks will change much.

3 hours ago, broken one said:

As far as I remember from her chapter she stood out in divination among other priests. She is also powerful, experienced shadow binder... and Thoros (according to himself) was not very good at anything except for having fun. Out of a sudden he starts bringing people back to life. And as the last kiss seems to be standard gesture among the red priests... if Thoros can do it then more talented and skilled priests should be able to do it too,  at least as good as him. Why not?

Yeah, the miracle of Beric is that something that was - to Thoros' knowledge at least - just a standard part of the red priests' funeral rites brought back Beric Dondarrion from the dead multiple times. This is what turned him and all his followers into pious zealots, and which right now helps the belief in R'hllor spread like a fire through the Riverlands.

If Jon Snow is dead - and he sure as hell is dead after what happened to him - there will be a funeral, and Mel is likely going to administer that last kiss. And that's going to resurrect the body, but not bring the skinchanger back into his human body. Jon died, but since he is skinchanger he survived his own death in his wolf. He didn't die and come back the way Beric and Catelyn did.

The obvious parallel to Jon's case is Coldhands - his story is likely the story of a skinchanger who joined the NW and was killed beyond the Wall, turned into a wight by the Others only to regain control of his animated corpse by somehow returning his spirit back into it - perhaps with the help of Bloodraven, another greenseer, or the Children of the Forest. In that form this person is now pretty much immortal in death since that wight spell doesn't seem to have an expiration date.

Jon won't have exactly the same story - his body is most likely not going to be turned into a wight by the Others - but his way back into his own body will be the same story as the story of Coldhands.

1 hour ago, Alexis-something-Rose said:

As far as Mel goes and whatever goes on with Jon, she's had the vision of him being a man, then being a wolf, then being a man. So I don't see her giving Jon the last kiss, just based on that. Once she understands what the vision, she will follow a different course. 

Mel might know more about the actual hidden/secret/theological meaning of that last kiss Thoros thought was just a part of the standard ritual. She might know what the point of that ritual is, where it originated, and how it works. There are people who believe she herself is a 'fire wight', although I imagine she was more likely imbued with living fire while she was alive, but even if that's not the case her knowledge about the beliefs and traditions and magics of the red priests is much deeper than Thoros'.

Meaning that even if she made the connection that her vision about Jon the wolf-man might be chronological rather than simply revealing/symbolizing his nature as a warg she is not likely to come to the conclusion she could help him become a man again by not reviving his body with the help of R'hllor.

They all should realize Jon is dead as soon as Borroq tells them that his fellow skinchanger has started his second life. Which he will do. That is the whole point of him being there at Castle Black.

If Jon were just in a coma we wouldn't need all that complicated second life stuff Varamyr's Prologue laid out for us - then it would be expected that the unconscious skinchanger would hang out in his wolf. Then they would just have to wake him up and everything would be fine again - a very cheap and easy trick.

For that you don't need some elaborate setup how to cheat death and make it convincing - which is what George did with the entire skinchanger second life stuff for Jon. No other character is going to profit from that.

[Mithras]

31 minutes ago, Lord Varys said:

If Jon were just in a coma we wouldn't need all that complicated second life stuff Varamyr's Prologue laid out for us - then it would be expected that the unconscious skinchanger would hang out in his wolf. Then they would just have to wake him up and everything would be fine again - a very cheap and easy trick.

This proves that in an alternate universe where GRRM is releasing ASOIAF as a miniseries, if the first installment ends with Bran's fall and GRRM takes a decade to release the second one; it seems you would spend that decade arguing why Bran should stay dead first, and then move onto the idea that Bran should die and be resurrected in a depreciating way, all the while pointing how him being simply in a coma and getting healed would be a very cheap and easy trick.

[Alexis-something-Rose]

46 minutes ago, Lord Varys said:

They all should realize Jon is dead as soon as Borroq tells them that his fellow skinchanger has started his second life. Which he will do. That is the whole point of him being there at Castle Black.

And we know that a person in second life can be pushed out of their familiar. If anyone knows that, he might.