A Horse Named Stranger Posted August 6, 2020 Author Share Posted August 6, 2020 15 hours ago, ants said: Links please. Because I need a laugh. Not a news article, but what this has been about. And proof of what I've been saying all along. Twitter is for twats. Exhibit a. Iain Duncan Smith. https://twitter.com/MPIainDS/status/1290292766514135040 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Anti-Targ Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 21 hours ago, ants said: Links please. Because I need a laugh. Both videos are about Iain Duncan Smith, since it was him that posted some self-owning tweets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Anti-Targ Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 10 hours ago, Leap said: Fantastic news! Rewilding and reintroduction is such a niche issue so it's great to see an actual victory for once. Can't believe how much the beaver populationh as grown too, and it's surprising to see the number of sites they are potentially present at. It's not all perfect, as you do have some bullshittery like this: Of course, cull the population rather than moving it to some of the other massive open space in Scotland, or indeed the UK. I would like to see some substantiation of the potential issues relating to migratory fish, but if it's just a case of "anglers want to be able to fish here without beavers", they can fuck off. The article above notes that it improved fish biomass - is there a reason it would be negative for migratory fish. Also, not introduced. Reintroduced. I doubt wolves will come back any time soon. As we can see above, the farming lobby has significant influence and very little incentive to move from the status quo. Although maybe Brexit will have an unforseen impact here. I think Lynx are more feasible, although a fairly recent application was unfortunately rejected. Edit: Gov press release attached https://www.gov.uk/government/news/five-year-beaver-reintroduction-trial-successfully-completed The law of unintended consequences. Beavers were extinct in the UK for 400+ years according to the google, and were obviously at very low numbers for a bit longer than that. Ecosystems adapt over that period of time. Even when it has the appearance of humans correcting a past ecological sin, re-introducing a species is still human intervention in an ecosystem. What ecological problem was re-introducing beavers trying to fix? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stannis Eats No Peaches Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 10 hours ago, The Anti-Targ said: The law of unintended consequences. Beavers were extinct in the UK for 400+ years according to the google, and were obviously at very low numbers for a bit longer than that. Ecosystems adapt over that period of time. Even when it has the appearance of humans correcting a past ecological sin, re-introducing a species is still human intervention in an ecosystem. What ecological problem was re-introducing beavers trying to fix? The loss of wetlands and increased flooding? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hereward Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 21 minutes ago, Stannis Eats No Peaches said: The loss of wetlands and increased flooding? Also, beavers provide a breeding ground for fish and sunlit areas in woodland, giving a huge boost to plant diversity and insect numbers, and, as a result, bird numbers. This is doubly important as the UK has the most denuded biodiversity in the entire world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spockydog Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 11 hours ago, The Anti-Targ said: Beavers were extinct in the UK for 400+ years Serves them right for being so damn tasty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fragile Bird Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Spockydog said: Serves them right for being so damn tasty. Hats. Made extinct, for hats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spockydog Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, Fragile Bird said: Hats. Made extinct, for hats. Hats and Catholics. During the olde days, the Catholic Church designated beavers as fish, so that monks could eat them during Lent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fragile Bird Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 Just now, Spockydog said: Hats and Catholics. During the olde days, the Catholic Church designated beavers as fish, so that monks could eat them during Lent. That was only in New France, Quebec, afaik. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hereward Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 Yeah, I took a very different meaning from the post. Probably should see someone about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fragile Bird Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, Spockydog said: Hats and Catholics. During the olde days, the Catholic Church designated beavers as fish, so that monks could eat them during Lent. A quick Google shows it was, good grief, the College of Physicians in Paris that declared beaver fish, not the church, because the tail moves the beaver in water when it swims. 4 minutes ago, Hereward said: Yeah, I took a very different meaning from the post. Probably should see someone about that. That kind didn’t go extinct, so, no! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lessthanluke Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 Preston went back into a social lockdown today. Which means I can't go to someone else's house but I can still go to the pub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Which Tyler Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 Quick question. Is the response to BLM still that "all lives matter"? There are some kids on a dinghy that would like to know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartofice Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 21 minutes ago, Which Tyler said: Quick question. Is the response to BLM till that "all lives matter"? There are some kids on a dinghy that would like to know I know you think this is clever.. but it doesn’t make a ton of sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltaran Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 6 hours ago, Heartofice said: I know you think this is clever.. but it doesn’t make a ton of sense. It makes sense to me. If you claim all lives matter you should be helping these refugees, not demanding the Navy sends them back to France Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fragile Bird Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 Any news about the train derailment in Scotland? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tywin Manderly Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, Fragile Bird said: Any news about the train derailment in Scotland? https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/aug/12/reports-of-serious-injuries-after-train-derails-scotland-stonehaven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosi Mynn Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 37 minutes ago, Fragile Bird said: Any news about the train derailment in Scotland? Live updates https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-scotland-53751774 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fragile Bird Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 Boy, the pictures look dreadful. My condolences to the families of those who died or who were injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamjm Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 3 hours ago, Fragile Bird said: Boy, the pictures look dreadful. My condolences to the families of those who died or who were injured. The latest count is three people dead (including the train's driver and conductor). The pictures do look horrific. I suspect if this had happened at any other time then there could have been many more casualties. The pandemic and in particular the Aberdeen lockdown may well have made the service much less busy than it would have been in normal times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.