UK Politics: Statues of Limitations

[Derfel Cadarn]

 

[Which Tyler]

2 hours ago, Spockydog said:

I see one of the senior journos has broken ranks with the BBC News 'management'.

 

Since when was permission required?

Is that why we haven't seen the Russian Report yet? because Putin refused permission?

[Spockydog]

22 minutes ago, Which Tyler said:

Is that why we haven't seen the Russian Report yet? because Putin refused permission?

Basically, yeah.

Johnson is likely compromised by the Russians. The CIA told the US Senate as much during their own investigations into Russian infiltration.

He actually shook off his Special Branch close protection officer once, so he could leave the country and meet with his Russian handler.

[A Horse Named Stranger]

58 minutes ago, Derfel Cadarn said:

 

With which of those three would you be least appalled to have a beer with? Fun imagination excercise. I am a bit torn between the self-indulgent, narcissistic (that narrows it down, eh?), British Thesaurus Rex, and the American serial rapist.

 

[Pebble thats Stubby]

7 minutes ago, A Horse Named Stranger said:

With which of those three would you be least appalled to have a beer with? Fun imagination excercise. I am a bit torn between the self-indulgent, narcissistic (that narrows it down, eh?), British Thesaurus Rex, and the American serial rapist.

 

Can we make it a milkshake instead of a beer?  Oh I also occasionaly suffer a weird condition that makes me loose control of my beverage vessel, it could fly off at any angle.

 

although I think I'd quiet like to meet Desmond.  he might gift me some money,  (I can fake it for an hour).

[BigFatCoward]

Long-Bailey has been sacked after re tweeting an article containing anti-semetic conspiracy theory.  Keir is clearly not keen on having that nonsense hanging over him like it did to JC.

[BigFatCoward]

1 hour ago, Spockydog said:

 

He actually shook off his Special Branch close protection officer once, so he could leave the country and meet with his Russian handler.

You have to back that up with something surely, not saying its not true, but if you are going to claim something that fantastic, you need a source.

[Maltaran]

13 minutes ago, BigFatCoward said:

Long-Bailey has been sacked after re tweeting an article containing anti-semetic conspiracy theory.  Keir is clearly not keen on having that nonsense hanging over him like it did to JC.

I'm not going to go down that rabbit hole, but I bet Momentum Twitter is going crazy right now.

[Chaircat Meow]

EPIC!!! Long-Bailey fired. Starmer not messing around clearing out the shite, great stuff. 

[Heartofice]

I am really not a fan of Long Bailey at all, but this sacking seems incredibly harsh. She tweeted an article that had some anti Semitic conspiracy theory as a small part of it ( actually from what I can tell, something about US cops learning techniques from Israel), she also had gotten the tweet cleared by Labour as far as I can tell as well. 
 

I get that Starmer has to crack down incredibly hard on any sniff of anti Semitic behaviour so it makes sense that she’s gone, but it does seem quite disproportionate 

[Chaircat Meow]

1 minute ago, Heartofice said:

I am really not a fan of Long Bailey at all, but this sacking seems incredibly harsh. She tweeted an article that had some anti Semitic conspiracy theory as a small part of it ( actually from what I can tell, something about US cops learning techniques from Israel), she also had gotten the tweet cleared by Labour as far as I can tell as well. 
 

I get that Starmer has to crack down incredibly hard on any sniff of anti Semitic behaviour so it makes sense that she’s gone, but it does seem quite disproportionate 

I mean yeah, it does but I think it was a good move on KS's part. 

[Maltaran]

Ok, I lied, I did look at what Owen Jones said, and it’s basically the same as HoI (hold on a minute, I just need to check for flying pigs). Basically, it’s an overreaction and an apology should have been sufficient.

The actual theory in the article was that the cops who killed George Floyd learnt that knee on the neck technique from Israeli secret services 

[Stannis Eats No Peaches]

It is harsh, but necessary I think. Only time will tell if this gesture of reassurance for the Jewish community will be worth the loss of support (and I expect there will be some) from Momentum. Unfortunately this certainly won’t help to resolve the issue of factionalism within Labour.

[Heartofice]

Everyone in Labour is going to have to be incredibly careful with what they say, which they should already be doing. Starmer doesn’t want the anti Semitic stick to be able to hit him at all. 
 

Im happy she’s gone though, she doesn’t need to be near mainstream politics at all.

[Spockydog]

37 minutes ago, BigFatCoward said:

You have to back that up with something surely, not saying its not true, but if you are going to claim something that fantastic, you need a source.

 

And here's the story.

Morning after: Boris Johnson recovers from Lebedev’s exotic Italian party

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A trip Boris Johnson made to Italy for a party held by a billionaire socialite ended with the then foreign secretary at an airport “looking like he had slept in his clothes”, struggling to walk in a straight line and telling other passengers he had had a heavy night, the Guardian has been told.

Pictures of the now prime minister along with an account from a fellow traveller shed further light on Johnson’s weekend away at the home of the media owner Evgeny Lebedev, who is known for hosting uproarious parties for the rich and famous at his converted castle near Perugia.

Johnson has refused to answer questions about the visit in April last year, including whether he flew to Italy against the advice of his officials and without the 24/7 security detail usually assigned to the foreign secretary.

The pictures, taken at San Francesco d’Assisi airport on Sunday 29 April 2018, suggest he did go to Italy without a police escort. According to another passenger on the flight back to the UK, Johnson was on his own, seemingly without any luggage and very much the worse for wear.

I'm sure there was nothing underhand or treasonous about this. 

Gawd bless the British Media, eh?

[Spockydog]

12 minutes ago, Heartofice said:

Everyone in Labour is going to have to be incredibly careful with what they say

Unlike the Tories, who, it appears, can do and say whatever the fuck they like with zero consequences.

 

[Spockydog]

39 minutes ago, Maltaran said:

Ok, I lied, I did look at what Owen Jones said, and it’s basically the same as HoI 

The actual theory in the article was that the cops who killed George Floyd learnt that knee on the neck technique from Israeli secret services 

How in the actual fuck is that antisemitic? 

[Heartofice]

16 minutes ago, Spockydog said:

How in the actual fuck is that antisemitic? 

It doesn’t have to actually anti Semitic for it to be a problem for Labour, it just has to be next door to conspiracy theories and it’s damaging.  It did smell heavily of left wing conspiracy nut job ( a scent you often pick up on this board)

[A Horse Named Stranger]

8 minutes ago, Spockydog said:

How the actual fuck is that antisemitic? 

Let's go thru what happened there.

George Floyd was killed by a cop, who has track record of racist behaviour, and got indicted for murder. Racist Killer Cop learnt technique to kill black guy from Israeli Secret Service, is not a particularly great idea (mildly put) in the best of times. It's not like US cops need instructions on how to kill a minority anyway. Coming up with that, when your own party is dealing with an anti-semitism crisis it is at the very least plain dumb politically. And it doesn't make it much better, that RLB was merely retweeting that nonsense in a mindless fashion (generous reading), and it shows a total lack of political awareness/political intelligence and good judgement. And Labour absolutely dodged a bullet by her not winning the party leadership.

Good thing for Labour and for Keir that he acted so quickly and decissively, and he really had to.

[Spockydog]

Stating the widely known fact that the Israelis are training US law enforcement, and may have taught them some awesome brutalizing techniques, including the one that killed Floyd, is not, in any way, antisemitic. Especially when it's probably true. 

https://www.trtworld.com/magazine/the-knee-on-neck-long-a-staple-of-israel-s-occupation-of-palestine-36787