Ran Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 13 minutes ago, HelenaExMachina said: I Hmm, scrolled past Carol as I was looking for it. Add another to the queue... Very good film, and pairs exceptionally well with Haynes' Far From Heaven. Did you ever manage to catch Portrait of a Lady on Fire? 13 minutes ago, HelenaExMachina said: Still excited for the French Dispatch later this year. Looks like typical Anderson, which is absolutely perfect by me Ditto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 The English Patient lived up to its reputation, technically well done in many ways, but still boring as shit. It was clear Oscar-bait, which should never get rewarded. What a weak time in film making, as many films in the late 90's to early 00's would get wrecked by several films older or newer who weren't even considered worthy in their given time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hauberk Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 7 hours ago, Ran said: Also, my remarks about Malick may give the impression that I think TTRL is a terrible film, but no, it's gorgeous and meditative even if Malick hacked it to pieces to minimize Caviezel ... and it's a better war film than SPR, to boot. I was going to give you some props on this right up until this clarification. I saw TTRL in the theatre, and pretty sure that my butt is still asleep. No disagreement that it was gorgeously shot, but it was a serious navel gazer. I rarely get bored with a movie and that one was just an utter snooze fest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HexMachina Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 9 minutes ago, Ran said: Very good film, and pairs exceptionally well with Haynes' Far From Heaven. Did you ever manage to catch Portrait of a Lady on Fire? Ditto. Unfortunately I didn’t. I think the cinema release was fairly limited here and it was towards the end of february anyway which was when things were starting to get a bit concerning over here and i was less inclined to go out anyway. Shame. I’ll be keeping an eye out on streaming services and/or Sky though. Its available to rent/buy on Prime video which i will likely end up doing if the wait drags on too long. Thanks for the reminder though! I recall your mentioning it and my interest now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamjm Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 6 hours ago, Tywin et al. said: And I don't believe I've seen either of those movies. I have meant to get to The Grand Budapest Hotel. I haven't heard the best of things about Hail, Caesar!, though. I thought The Grand Budapest Hotel was a great film and Fiennes was very good in it. I wouldn't say the same about Hail, Ceaser! which is a mess overall although Fiennes does have a great comic scene playing a director trying to teach a cowboy actor how to act in a drama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoodedCrow Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 Randy Rainbow lampoons Trump and company. The video is very funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 46 minutes ago, Tywin et al. said: What a weak time in film making, as many films in the late 90's to early 00's would get wrecked by several films older or newer who weren't even considered worthy in their given time. Why? Because two of the best picture winners didn't blow anything up? LA Confidential was from that time period. ..I dunno, this all should be started in another thread. All I'll say is that era is definitely not a particularly "weak" period in American cinema. Not saying it's like the 70s or anything, but I think it's ridiculous to assert it's much worse than most any other era. Or 4-6 year timeframe, or whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 12 minutes ago, DMC said: Why? Because two of the best picture winners didn't blow anything up? LA Confidential was from that time period. ..I dunno, this all should be started in another thread. All I'll say is that era is definitely not a particularly "weak" period in American cinema. Not saying it's like the 70s or anything, but I think it's ridiculous to assert it's much worse than most any other era. Or 4-6 year timeframe, or whatever. 96 to 05 Best Picture winners, what would you excitedly tell someone to watch? Million Dollar Baby is a good movie, but it's not something you tell people they need to see. I personally really like Gladiator, but many think it's a weak Best Picture winner. Titanic made a ton of money, but it's debatable how good it actually was. Also, I didn't recall that all three LOTR movies were nominated for best picture. Anyways it was just an overall weak time for films. The winners by and large weren't great, but their competition wasn't any better. There are, however, a lot of films that came before and after that period that didn't win which could of dog walked every film made over that decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nictarion Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 Speaking of The Grand Budapest Hotel, and Portrait of a Lady on Fire, I actually just bought both on Blu-ray during the Barnes and Noble Criterion sale. The latter was a blind buy, but I’ve heard nothing but good things. Might try to get to it tonight... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 10 minutes ago, Tywin et al. said: 96 to 05 Best Picture winners, Why are you judging the quality of the films simply by who the Academy decided to reward. Take 2002. Chicago won. Not sure I've ever even seen that all the way through, but Gangs of New York, the Pianist, the Hours? All great films. We can argue about Shakespeare in Love beating the two war movies in 98, but it also beat out Life is Beautiful, which is an extraordinary film. Green Mile, Aviator, Finding Neverland, Sideways, Munich - probably my favorite Spielberg movie. All nominations that fall within your timeframe. Point is, do you like apples? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veltigar Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 9 minutes ago, DMC said: Why are you judging the quality of the films simply by who the Academy decided to reward. Take 2002. Chicago won. Not sure I've ever even seen that all the way through, but Gangs of New York, the Pianist, the Hours? All great films. We can argue about Shakespeare in Love beating the two war movies in 98, but it also beat out Life is Beautiful, which is an extraordinary film. Green Mile, Aviator, Finding Neverland, Sideways, Munich - probably my favorite Spielberg movie. All nominations that fall within your timeframe. Point is, do you like apples? I was on your side just until you mentioned that horrible piece of shit excuse for a movie :p Generally speaking though, I do think @Tywin et al. has a strong case that the winners from 96-2005 just weren't very good for whatever reason. Just copying the list from Wikipedia with winners and nominees below and it's actually quite depressing: Spoiler 1996(69th) The English Patient Saul Zaentz Fargo Ethan Coen Jerry Maguire James L. Brooks, Laurence Mark, Richard Sakai, and Cameron Crowe Secrets & Lies Simon Channing-Williams Shine Jane Scott 1997(70th) Titanic James Cameron and Jon Landau As Good as It Gets James L. Brooks, Bridget Johnson, and Kristi Zea The Full Monty Uberto Pasolini Good Will Hunting Lawrence Bender L.A. Confidential Curtis Hanson, Arnon Milchan, and Michael Nathanson 1998(71st) Shakespeare in Love David Parfitt, Donna Gigliotti, Harvey Weinstein, Edward Zwick, and Marc Norman Elizabeth Alison Owen, Eric Fellner and Tim Bevan Life Is Beautiful Elda Ferri and Gianluigi Braschi Saving Private Ryan Steven Spielberg, Ian Bryce, Mark Gordon, and Gary Levinsohn The Thin Red Line Robert Michael Geisler, John Roberdeau, and Grant Hill 1999(72nd) American Beauty Bruce Cohen and Dan Jinks The Cider House Rules Richard N. Gladstein The Green Mile Frank Darabont and David Valdes The Insider Pieter Jan Brugge and Michael Mann The Sixth Sense Frank Marshall, Kathleen Kennedy, and Barry Mendel 2000(73rd) Gladiator Douglas Wick, David Franzoni, and Branko Lustig Chocolat David Brown, Kit Golden, and Leslie Holleran Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon William Kong, Hsu Li-kong, and Ang Lee Erin Brockovich Danny DeVito, Michael Shamberg, and Stacey Sher Traffic Edward Zwick, Marshall Herskovitz, and Laura Bickford 2001(74th) A Beautiful Mind Brian Grazer and Ron Howard Gosford Park Robert Altman, Bob Balaban, and David Levy In the Bedroom Graham Leader, Ross Katz, and Todd Field The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring Peter Jackson, Fran Walsh, and Barrie M. Osborne Moulin Rouge! Martin Brown, Baz Luhrmann, and Fred Baron 2002(75th) Chicago Martin Richards Gangs of New York Alberto Grimaldi and Harvey Weinstein The Hours Scott Rudin and Robert Fox The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers Barrie M. Osborne, Fran Walsh, and Peter Jackson The Pianist Roman Polanski, Robert Benmussa, and Alain Sarde 2003(76th) The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King Barrie M. Osborne, Peter Jackson, and Fran Walsh Lost in Translation Ross Katz and Sofia Coppola Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World Samuel Goldwyn Jr., Peter Weir, and Duncan Henderson Mystic River Robert Lorenz, Judie G. Hoyt, and Clint Eastwood Seabiscuit Kathleen Kennedy, Frank Marshall, and Gary Ross 2004(77th) Million Dollar Baby Clint Eastwood, Albert S. Ruddy, and Tom Rosenberg The Aviator Michael Mann and Graham King Finding Neverland Richard N. Gladstein and Nellie Bellflower Ray Taylor Hackford, Stuart Benjamin, and Howard Baldwin Sideways Michael London 2005(78th) Crash Paul Haggis and Cathy Schulman Brokeback Mountain Diana Ossana and James Schamus Capote Caroline Baron, William Vince, and Michael Ohoven Good Night, and Good Luck Grant Heslov Munich Steven Spielberg, Kathleen Kennedy, and Barry Mendel Particularly 2001 & 2004 were bad. No good film seems to have been nominated in 2004. Out of the entire list from 96-05 I'd say that only Gladiator and Return of the King were justified winners. Whether that means that the entire output during these years was weaker is not a conclusion I would automatically draw, but the Academy certainly kept its head up its own butt even more than they do so nowadays! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, Veltigar said: Just copying the list from Wikipedia with winners and nominees below and its actually quite depressing: As compared to what? You're telling me you're a huge fan of the winners and nominees from the 80s? Or post 2005? I guess that's your opinion, but don't tell me that group of films is of any higher quality than the decade described. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mexal Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 17 minutes ago, Nictarion said: Speaking of The Grand Budapest Hotel, and Portrait of a Lady on Fire, I actually just bought both on Blu-ray during the Barnes and Noble Criterion sale. The latter was a blind buy, but I’ve heard nothing but good things. Might try to get to it tonight... My favorite movie of last year, right next to Parasite. I cannot sing it’s praises enough. Every scene is staged as a piece of art. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veltigar Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 7 minutes ago, DMC said: As compared to what? You're telling me you're a huge fan of the winners and nominees from the 80s? Or post 2005? I guess that's your opinion, but don't tell me that group of films is of any higher quality than the decade described. Well, Wikipedia is quite handy for comparison's sake. Take the list I posted earlier and compare it to: 1990-1995 Spoiler 990(63rd) Dances with Wolves Jim Wilson and Kevin Costner Awakenings Walter Parkes and Lawrence Lasker Ghost Lisa Weinstein The Godfather Part III Francis Ford Coppola Goodfellas Irwin Winkler 1991(64th) The Silence of the Lambs Edward Saxon, Kenneth Utt, and Ron Bozman Beauty and the Beast Don Hahn Bugsy Mark Johnson, Barry Levinson and Warren Beatty JFK A. Kitman Ho and Oliver Stone The Prince of Tides Barbra Streisand and Andrew S. Karsch 1992(65th) Unforgiven Clint Eastwood The Crying Game Stephen Woolley A Few Good Men David Brown, Rob Reiner, and Andrew Scheinman Howards End Ismail Merchant Scent of a Woman Martin Brest 1993(66th) Schindler's List Steven Spielberg, Gerald R. Molen, and Branko Lustig The Fugitive Arnold Kopelson In the Name of the Father Jim Sheridan The Piano Jan Chapman The Remains of the Day Mike Nichols, John Calley, and Ismail Merchant 1994(67th) Forrest Gump Wendy Finerman, Steve Tisch, and Steve Starkey Four Weddings and a Funeral Duncan Kenworthy Pulp Fiction Lawrence Bender Quiz Show Michael Jacobs, Julian Krainin, Michael Nozik, and Robert Redford The Shawshank Redemption Niki Marvin 1995(68th) Braveheart Mel Gibson, Alan Ladd Jr., and Bruce Davey Apollo 13 Brian Grazer Babe Bill Miller, George Miller, and Doug Mitchell The Postman (Il Postino) Mario Cecchi Gori, Vittorio Cecchi Gori, and Gaetano Daniele Sense and Sensibility Lindsay Doran I have seen every best picture winner of that era and while there are films that I would personally object too (looking at your Forrest Gump & Braveheart) I'd much rather rewatch even my least favorite Best Picture winners of that era than having to take another go at Chicago, Titanic, Crash, Million Dollar Baby, A Beautiful Mind, Shakespeare in Love, American Beauty and the English Patient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nictarion Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 5 minutes ago, Veltigar said: I was on your side just until you mentioned that horrible piece of shit excuse for a movie :p Generally speaking though, I do think @Tywin et al. has a strong case that the winners from 96-2005 just weren't very good for whatever reason. Just copying the list from Wikipedia with winners and nominees below and it's actually quite depressing: Hide contents 1996(69th) The English Patient Saul Zaentz Fargo Ethan Coen Jerry Maguire James L. Brooks, Laurence Mark, Richard Sakai, and Cameron Crowe Secrets & Lies Simon Channing-Williams Shine Jane Scott 1997(70th) Titanic James Cameron and Jon Landau As Good as It Gets James L. Brooks, Bridget Johnson, and Kristi Zea The Full Monty Uberto Pasolini Good Will Hunting Lawrence Bender L.A. Confidential Curtis Hanson, Arnon Milchan, and Michael Nathanson 1998(71st) Shakespeare in Love David Parfitt, Donna Gigliotti, Harvey Weinstein, Edward Zwick, and Marc Norman Elizabeth Alison Owen, Eric Fellner and Tim Bevan Life Is Beautiful Elda Ferri and Gianluigi Braschi Saving Private Ryan Steven Spielberg, Ian Bryce, Mark Gordon, and Gary Levinsohn The Thin Red Line Robert Michael Geisler, John Roberdeau, and Grant Hill 1999(72nd) American Beauty Bruce Cohen and Dan Jinks The Cider House Rules Richard N. Gladstein The Green Mile Frank Darabont and David Valdes The Insider Pieter Jan Brugge and Michael Mann The Sixth Sense Frank Marshall, Kathleen Kennedy, and Barry Mendel 2000(73rd) Gladiator Douglas Wick, David Franzoni, and Branko Lustig Chocolat David Brown, Kit Golden, and Leslie Holleran Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon William Kong, Hsu Li-kong, and Ang Lee Erin Brockovich Danny DeVito, Michael Shamberg, and Stacey Sher Traffic Edward Zwick, Marshall Herskovitz, and Laura Bickford 2001(74th) A Beautiful Mind Brian Grazer and Ron Howard Gosford Park Robert Altman, Bob Balaban, and David Levy In the Bedroom Graham Leader, Ross Katz, and Todd Field The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring Peter Jackson, Fran Walsh, and Barrie M. Osborne Moulin Rouge! Martin Brown, Baz Luhrmann, and Fred Baron 2002(75th) Chicago Martin Richards Gangs of New York Alberto Grimaldi and Harvey Weinstein The Hours Scott Rudin and Robert Fox The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers Barrie M. Osborne, Fran Walsh, and Peter Jackson The Pianist Roman Polanski, Robert Benmussa, and Alain Sarde 2003(76th) The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King Barrie M. Osborne, Peter Jackson, and Fran Walsh Lost in Translation Ross Katz and Sofia Coppola Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World Samuel Goldwyn Jr., Peter Weir, and Duncan Henderson Mystic River Robert Lorenz, Judie G. Hoyt, and Clint Eastwood Seabiscuit Kathleen Kennedy, Frank Marshall, and Gary Ross 2004(77th) Million Dollar Baby Clint Eastwood, Albert S. Ruddy, and Tom Rosenberg The Aviator Michael Mann and Graham King Finding Neverland Richard N. Gladstein and Nellie Bellflower Ray Taylor Hackford, Stuart Benjamin, and Howard Baldwin Sideways Michael London 2005(78th) Crash Paul Haggis and Cathy Schulman Brokeback Mountain Diana Ossana and James Schamus Capote Caroline Baron, William Vince, and Michael Ohoven Good Night, and Good Luck Grant Heslov Munich Steven Spielberg, Kathleen Kennedy, and Barry Mendel Particularly 2001 & 2004 were bad. No good film seems to have been nominated in 2004. Out of the entire list from 96-05 I'd say that only Gladiator and Return of the King were justified winners. Whether that means that the entire output during these years was weaker is not a conclusion I would automatically draw, but the Academy certainly kept its head up its own butt even more than they do so nowadays! I disagree there. I love Sideways. I’ve seen it countless times, and it just never gets old. Also, while not one of my favorite Scorsese films, The Aviator is pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 13 minutes ago, DMC said: Why are you judging the quality of the films simply by who the Academy decided to reward. Take 2002. Chicago won. Not sure I've ever even seen that all the way through, but Gangs of New York, the Pianist, the Hours? All great films. We can argue about Shakespeare in Love beating the two war movies in 98, but it also beat out Life is Beautiful, which is an extraordinary film. Green Mile, Aviator, Finding Neverland, Sideways, Munich - probably my favorite Spielberg movie. All nominations that fall within your timeframe. Point is, do you like apples? I just pointed out that for a long run largely forgettable movies cleaned up at the biggest film award event. So let's take some of the films you mentioned. Chicago.....sucked. I've tried to watch it a few times, it's not a very good film, and I say that as someone who like musicals and loves that city. I really like Gangs of New York. I'll stop on it damn near every time. But I'm not sure it really is a Best Picture film either. The Aviator is also a great film, and that would be a worthy BP winner over many in that time span. I know I've seen Munich, but can't recall it. I'm not sure if I've ever seen Finding Neverland or Sideways. The Green Mile is where it gets tricky. The movie was no where near as good as the book, but Michael Clarke Duncan gave an all-time performance. When debating the best castings ever, he belongs in that conversation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 Just now, Veltigar said: I have seen every best picture winner of that era and while there are films that I would personally object too (looking at your Forrest Gump & Braveheart) I'd much rather rewatch even my least favorite films of that era than having to take another go at Chicago, Titanic, Crash, Million Dollar Baby, A Beautiful Mind, Shakespeare in Love, American Beauty and the English Patient. Yeah you're doing the same thing Ty is and just looking at the best picture winners. Who give a shit? The wiki entry showing the nominations is a nice way to see what were the main most lauded films at the time, but that's not the whole story. And also, I like Beautiful Mind, American Beauty, and Shakespeare in Love - while not deserving of best picture - is a fun movie. I also don't get why you hate Life is Beautiful. 90-95 included quite sub-par or boring films IMHO like Ghost, Bugsy, Prince of Tides, Howard's End, everything but Schindler's List in 93, Four Weddings and a Funeral, and Quiz Show?!? Il Postino and Sense and Sensibility weren't my sensibilities either. And Babe? So, anyway, lots of movies that get nominated suck, even when there was only 5. Sometimes they win. Why are we basing our standards on best picture winners? Makes no sense to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HexMachina Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 31 minutes ago, DMC said: Why are you judging the quality of the films simply by who the Academy decided to reward. Take 2002. Chicago won. Not sure I've ever even seen that all the way through, but Gangs of New York, the Pianist, the Hours? All great films. We can argue about Shakespeare in Love beating the two war movies in 98, but it also beat out Life is Beautiful, which is an extraordinary film. Green Mile, Aviator, Finding Neverland, Sideways, Munich - probably my favorite Spielberg movie. All nominations that fall within your timeframe. Point is, do you like apples? *bites lip* ... You had this coming. You had this coming. You only have yourself to blame.... Chicago is my guilty pleasure. I love that film Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 18 minutes ago, Veltigar said: I was on your side just until you mentioned that horrible piece of shit excuse for a movie :p Generally speaking though, I do think @Tywin et al. has a strong case that the winners from 96-2005 just weren't very good for whatever reason. Just copying the list from Wikipedia with winners and nominees below and it's actually quite depressing: Reveal hidden contents 1996(69th) The English Patient Saul Zaentz Fargo Ethan Coen Jerry Maguire James L. Brooks, Laurence Mark, Richard Sakai, and Cameron Crowe Secrets & Lies Simon Channing-Williams Shine Jane Scott 1997(70th) Titanic James Cameron and Jon Landau As Good as It Gets James L. Brooks, Bridget Johnson, and Kristi Zea The Full Monty Uberto Pasolini Good Will Hunting Lawrence Bender L.A. Confidential Curtis Hanson, Arnon Milchan, and Michael Nathanson 1998(71st) Shakespeare in Love David Parfitt, Donna Gigliotti, Harvey Weinstein, Edward Zwick, and Marc Norman Elizabeth Alison Owen, Eric Fellner and Tim Bevan Life Is Beautiful Elda Ferri and Gianluigi Braschi Saving Private Ryan Steven Spielberg, Ian Bryce, Mark Gordon, and Gary Levinsohn The Thin Red Line Robert Michael Geisler, John Roberdeau, and Grant Hill 1999(72nd) American Beauty Bruce Cohen and Dan Jinks The Cider House Rules Richard N. Gladstein The Green Mile Frank Darabont and David Valdes The Insider Pieter Jan Brugge and Michael Mann The Sixth Sense Frank Marshall, Kathleen Kennedy, and Barry Mendel 2000(73rd) Gladiator Douglas Wick, David Franzoni, and Branko Lustig Chocolat David Brown, Kit Golden, and Leslie Holleran Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon William Kong, Hsu Li-kong, and Ang Lee Erin Brockovich Danny DeVito, Michael Shamberg, and Stacey Sher Traffic Edward Zwick, Marshall Herskovitz, and Laura Bickford 2001(74th) A Beautiful Mind Brian Grazer and Ron Howard Gosford Park Robert Altman, Bob Balaban, and David Levy In the Bedroom Graham Leader, Ross Katz, and Todd Field The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring Peter Jackson, Fran Walsh, and Barrie M. Osborne Moulin Rouge! Martin Brown, Baz Luhrmann, and Fred Baron 2002(75th) Chicago Martin Richards Gangs of New York Alberto Grimaldi and Harvey Weinstein The Hours Scott Rudin and Robert Fox The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers Barrie M. Osborne, Fran Walsh, and Peter Jackson The Pianist Roman Polanski, Robert Benmussa, and Alain Sarde 2003(76th) The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King Barrie M. Osborne, Peter Jackson, and Fran Walsh Lost in Translation Ross Katz and Sofia Coppola Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World Samuel Goldwyn Jr., Peter Weir, and Duncan Henderson Mystic River Robert Lorenz, Judie G. Hoyt, and Clint Eastwood Seabiscuit Kathleen Kennedy, Frank Marshall, and Gary Ross 2004(77th) Million Dollar Baby Clint Eastwood, Albert S. Ruddy, and Tom Rosenberg The Aviator Michael Mann and Graham King Finding Neverland Richard N. Gladstein and Nellie Bellflower Ray Taylor Hackford, Stuart Benjamin, and Howard Baldwin Sideways Michael London 2005(78th) Crash Paul Haggis and Cathy Schulman Brokeback Mountain Diana Ossana and James Schamus Capote Caroline Baron, William Vince, and Michael Ohoven Good Night, and Good Luck Grant Heslov Munich Steven Spielberg, Kathleen Kennedy, and Barry Mendel Particularly 2001 & 2004 were bad. No good film seems to have been nominated in 2004. Out of the entire list from 96-05 I'd say that only Gladiator and Return of the King were justified winners. Whether that means that the entire output during these years was weaker is not a conclusion I would automatically draw, but the Academy certainly kept its head up its own butt even more than they do so nowadays! I left out Life is Beautiful because I have no idea what that is. But when you look at that list, what film clearly towers over all the competition, including those not nominated? I guess A Beautiful Mind probably was the best film of the year, but even that is weak and deeply flawed. And it won in a year in which The Mexican came out. I rest my case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 8 minutes ago, HelenaExMachina said: *bites lip* ... You had this coming. You had this coming. You only have yourself to blame.... Not sure what you're referring to? That I haven't seen Chicago all the way through? I was interested in its historical bases, but I couldn't take it after awhile. Richard Gere bothers me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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