Martell Spy Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 There was a large effort to cancel Kelly Marie Tran. It might have been partially successful, in that it might have had an effect on decisions made for the next movie. And there was the James Gunn thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durckad Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 9 hours ago, DMC said: No! Do not make this a Star Wars thread! Bad Kal! Everything is political. Also, everything is Star Wars now too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 5 minutes ago, Durckad said: Everything is political. Also, everything is Star Wars now too. Dear fucking God man. The Trekies will burn everything down now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Richard II Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 25 minutes ago, Martell Spy said: There was a large effort to cancel Kelly Marie Tran. It might have been partially successful, in that it might have had an effect on decisions made for the next movie. And there was the James Gunn thing. It certainly drove her completely off social media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durckad Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 Just now, Tywin et al. said: Dear fucking God man. The Trekies will burn everything down now. It's Trekkies you uncultured p'takh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted July 28, 2020 Author Share Posted July 28, 2020 28 minutes ago, Durckad said: Everything is political. Also, everything is Star Wars now too. Star Wars has always been political that's not the point. My objection was about how such discussion rapidly metastasizes into throwing monkey poo at each other and I'd rather not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Richard II Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 Hey, you should see some of the arguments going on in the DC movies fandom right now. Also, Harry Potter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durckad Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 8 minutes ago, DMC said: Star Wars has always been political that's not the point. Lalalala, I can't hear you. Keep your politics out of my cherished childhood memories. Lalalalala. Quote My objection was about how such discussion rapidly metastasizes into throwing monkey poo at each other and I'd rather not. That's silly. When have discussions about Star Wars been anything other than civil? Besides, in a discussion about cancel culture, this should be one of the primary examples that cancelling is something the right-wing attempts to employ, considering the level of hate and vitriol leveled at some of its stars and creators over the past five years. 1 minute ago, Darth Richard II said: Hey, you should see some of the arguments going on in the DC movies fandom right now. No, I really shouldn't. Fandoms are insufferable nowadays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted July 28, 2020 Author Share Posted July 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Durckad said: When have discussions about Star Wars been anything other than civil? I'm hoping this is sarcasm. 2 minutes ago, Durckad said: Besides, in a discussion about cancel culture, this should be one of the primary examples that cancelling is something the right-wing attempts to employ, considering the level of hate and vitriol leveled at some of its stars and creators over the past five years. ...ugh. Yeah, fair enough. I just hate doing another iteration of the same damn stupid argument. Go to the top of the board for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 31 minutes ago, Durckad said: It's Trekkies you uncultured p'takh. p'takh? Are you a terrorist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fury Resurrected Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 2 hours ago, Martell Spy said: There was a large effort to cancel Kelly Marie Tran. It might have been partially successful, in that it might have had an effect on decisions made for the next movie. And there was the James Gunn thing. Did you read the (dozens of) James Gunn tweets?! Rape apologia, pedophilia apologia, homophobia, hate for the mentally disabled, antisemitism- the whole fucking gamut. As a rape survivor and person of color it really makes me feel less safe in this country that people don’t find that stuff offensive enough to want someone else to direct their children’s’ movies. its really inconceivable to compare him to Kelly Marie Tran, who didn’t really do anything other than play a character the bro-sphere (Which James Gunn was trying to court when writing all those awful things) didn’t like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fury Resurrected Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Durckad said: It's Trekkies you uncultured p'takh. You are both uncultured swine- it’s TREKKERS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martell Spy Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, Fury Resurrected said: Did you read the (dozens of) James Gunn tweets?! Rape apologia, pedophilia apologia, homophobia, hate for the mentally disabled, antisemitism- the whole fucking gamut. As a rape survivor and person of color it really makes me feel less safe in this country that people don’t find that stuff offensive enough to want someone else to direct their children’s’ movies. its really inconceivable to compare him to Kelly Marie Tran, who didn’t really do anything other than play a character the bro-sphere (Which James Gunn was trying to court when writing all those awful things) didn’t like. I didn't compare them. I brought them up as 2 people that were "cancelled." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fury Resurrected Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Martell Spy said: I didn't compare them. I brought them up as 2 people that were "cancelled." I don’t know that Gunn was cancelled as he still gets to Scrooge McDuck it into his vault full of money from still getting to do everything he was slated to do. Tran was harassed with misogyny and racism until she left social media and was all but written out of the Rise of Skywalker. James Gunn had to read some bad press for a second and that was about it. The difference was one was a powerful white guy and one was a not powerful not white not guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Richard II Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 Well, Gunn apologized many times for those tweets before they were dug up, though I do agree they were foul. I’d like to believe he’s legit changed and grown as a person per what people who worked with him have said. But I think the point was not that he says them but that were dragged out to light by the guy who literally started pizza gate as retribution for both things Gunn said about trump and for Rosanne getting fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Richard II Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Fury Resurrected said: I don’t know that Gunn was cancelled as he still gets to Scrooge McDuck it into his vault full of money from still getting to do everything he was slated to do. Tran was harassed with misogyny and racism until she left social media and was all but written out of the Rise of Skywalker. James Gunn had to read some bad press for a second and that was about it. The difference was one was a powerful white guy and one was a not powerful not white not guy. Yeah sadly true. I thought Gunn handled it well though, he apologized, said the stuff he said was gross and that he’s grown, and never once complained or insulted Disney. The Rose Tico stuff is way way way more horrible for many different reasons, though there is still rumor she may get her own show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Richard II Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 Also don’t know if you can say Gunn was cancelled. He got rehired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martell Spy Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 4 minutes ago, Darth Richard II said: Also don’t know if you can say Gunn was cancelled. He got rehired. Yeah, neither of these cases I brought up are perfect cancellations. None the less, they were attempted cancellations. The Pizzagate guy tried to take down Gunn, and apparently failed, but it appeared successful for a while. And a right-wing mob tried to take down Tran. I was pissed by both cases, as people were fucking my content. We will probably never know how great a Finn/Rose series could have been, as John Boyega apparently has left Star Wars behind in his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Richard II Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 Yeah and I don’t blame him, considering the shit he got slung at him too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartofice Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 20 minutes ago, Martell Spy said: We will probably never know how great a Finn/Rose series could have been. It’s pretty easy to imagine how “great” that would have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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