Consigliere Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 17 minutes ago, Soylent Brown said: We are completely shit. I honestly wouldn't bet on us to finish top 4 this season. Eh even if your lot have a significant drop off compared to the last two seasons, you'd still sleepwalk your way into the top 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AncalagonTheBlack Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 keita needs to be a bit braver.Get on Taki and Matip 2nd half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soylent Brown Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 Has Klopp told Firmino that he's not allowed to shoot? Fucking awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Winged Shadow Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 31 minutes ago, Soylent Brown said: Seriously though, our defense is getting steadily worse. We pretty much concede every game these days. Klopp has the defence pushing higher and higher up the pitch, but all it does is leave us vulnerable, and, given that we've been scoring fewer goals in recent times, what's the upside? Successful offside traps I'm guessing. I'd assume Liverpool would be up there with the most number of successful traps. Klopp clearly prefers to eliminate risk where possible and offside is one of his biggest asset in that sense (specially with VAR in play). Considering both Virgil and Gomez are quick and can recover most of the time, I think he is trying to take advantage of their speed and trying to push the whole group up the pitch to better counter how most oppositions plays against us (i.e. sit deep and counterattack) by having numbers around the box. (Not sure if that is the case this game as I am not watching it......because Liverpool always lose when I watch live ) What's the alternative? staying deeper? we'll still get countered because the opposition will utilize the gap between defense and mid (and if mid is also deep then attack will be toothless due to lack of numbers and we will be whining about that instead). I don't think high line is the problem as much as the defense just making more mistakes under pressure than expected and Ali not saving our bacon as much as he did previously. Also, I think teams are just getting better at utilizing their pacey attackers and staying onside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AncalagonTheBlack Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 terrible clearance from TAA.he is unfit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soylent Brown Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, The Winged Shadow said: Successful offside traps I'm guessing. I'd assume Liverpool would be up there with the most number of successful traps. Klopp clearly prefers to eliminate risk where possible and offside is one of his biggest asset in that sense (specially with VAR in play). Considering both Virgil and Gomez are quick and can recover most of the time, I think he is trying to take advantage of their speed and trying to push the whole group up the pitch to better counter how most oppositions plays against us (i.e. sit deep and counterattack) by having numbers around the box. (Not sure if that is the case this game as I am not watching it......because Liverpool always lose when I watch live ) What's the alternative? staying deeper? we'll still get countered because the opposition will utilize the gap between defense and mid (and if mid is also deep then attack will be toothless due to lack of numbers and we will be whining about that instead). I don't think high line is the problem as much as the defense just making more mistakes under pressure than expected and Ali not saving our bacon as much as he did previously. Also, I think teams are just getting better at utilizing their pacey attackers and staying onside. The alternative is doing what we were doing in 18/19 when we conceded fewer goals and scored more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AncalagonTheBlack Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 Mane had all the time in the world and he fluffs it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AncalagonTheBlack Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 i'm disappointed that Taki didn't come on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvinus85 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 Great goal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AncalagonTheBlack Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 poor pass from Bobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soylent Brown Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 Just how bad does he have to be before Klopp will sub him off? We're almost playing against 12 men with 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Winged Shadow Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, Soylent Brown said: The alternative is doing what we were doing in 18/19 when we conceded fewer goals and scored more! I don't think team played us the same way last year the way they did the year before. Last season more teams sat deep and countered vs the season before when people still thought Liverpool was weak to counters/set piece etc (based on the years before). 2018/19 was the year we changed that and in 2019/2020 teams adapter and took a more defensive approach. Plus, I am pretty sure we created more chances last season despite the opposition being more defensive. It's the finishing that let us down last season (and going by this thread....has continued to this season!). Anyways, we are not doing well so I am gonna go sleep. I think me keeping an eye on the score is jinxing us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AncalagonTheBlack Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 fair play to Leeds,they have been impressive.we look gassed, they are still going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AncalagonTheBlack Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 fucking hell, Bobby missed an easy chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AncalagonTheBlack Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 an undeserved victory for us,if the score remains the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soylent Brown Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 Firmino really needs to be dropped for the next game. This might be the worst game he's ever had for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 Fun game. Liverpool's offense is electric. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljkeane Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 Well that didn’t go as well as could have been hoped but at least we got the win. Leeds are going to give a few sides some difficulty this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvinus85 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 Leeds played like a team that has been in the EPL for several seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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