Canon Claude Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 We've all at least heard of the Dunk & Egg stories that GRRM has given us. But that's come at the expense of a lot of details regarding the characters of those stories which we might have gotten in the World of Ice and Fire, for example. To put it frankly, our knowledge of the reign of Aegon V is basically at the mercy of how many D&E novellas GRRM can eventually finish. So if you could pick three specific events in Aegon V's reign/Duncan's life to read about, which three events would you choose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canon Claude Posted September 8, 2020 Author Share Posted September 8, 2020 Damn, that's cruel. Only three more novellas from Dunk & Egg? First of all, I want to see how Aegon became king. Maybe he or Dunk spy on the Great Council, or depending on Dunk's position, he could be a member of the Kingsguard already so he'd be more than privy to the council, as well as seeing the head of Aenys Blackfyre thrown onto the table by Brynden. Hell, he'd probably be the one to tell Aegon about what happened so Aegon orders the arrest of Brynden as soon as he's crowned. Depending on Dunk and Brynden's interactions in the story, it could be so dramatic. Brynden could become a sinister Stoker-like villain or he could be the kind of idealist that gets brutally killed in a David Simon show. Secondly, I want to see the disintegration of Prince Duncan's marriage betrothal, his abdication, and the fallout between Aegon V and Lyonel Baratheon. I'd love to see a small version of Robert's Rebellion which ends with a trial by combat. It'd be kind of funny to see the obvious Robert Baratheon stand-in an antagonistic, ambitious light. Thirdly, the Tragedy at Summerhall. Because the Tragedy at Summerhall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butterweedstrover Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 Tragedy of Summerhall x10 Then I want to learn more about bloodraven and Shiera so more kingsguard Dunk with Aegon V around the time bloodraven is sent to the wall Move things back a bit and I'd like to see some stuff during King Maekar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CamiloRP Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 2 hours ago, Canon Claude said: We've all at least heard of the Dunk & Egg stories that GRRM has given us. But that's come at the expense of a lot of details regarding the characters of those stories which we might have gotten in the World of Ice and Fire, for example. To put it frankly, our knowledge of the reign of Aegon V is basically at the mercy of how many D&E novellas GRRM can eventually finish. So if you could pick three specific events in Aegon V's reign/Duncan's life to read about, which three events would you choose? The she wolves of Winterfell, because he promised it and I'm easily intrigued. Also It would be cool to have their perspective on The North. The conflict that resulted in Pennytree being royal fief. Because it would be sweet to have Dunk visit Arlan's home town. Also I'm really curious about what turned it into royal fief, again, easily intrigued. Also an explanation for all the coins in the tree would be nice. But I doubt George would give it. Most important of all: 2 hours ago, Canon Claude said: the Tragedy at Summerhall. Because the Tragedy at Summerhall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Steller Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 First, I want the third Blackfyre Rebellion. I want to see Aegon and Duncan help defeat Haegon Blackfyre. My theory is that either Aegon’s psycho older brother Aerion or Bloodraven were responsible for killing Haegon dishonourably, and I’d like to see how it went down. Also, I also want to know about Aegon’s ascension. Claude painted a hell of a picture, so I’d love to see what GRRM does with it. Then Summerhall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curled Finger Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 I thought there were supposed to be 12-14 D&E novellas planned? At any rate, I want to read BLOODRAVEN and his influence on all the kings he served. Then an entire novella covering Bloodraven & Maester Aemon's trip to the Wall and all the escapades there with a deep dive into the Blackwoods and their magic. I dread reading Egg as ruler, but I am curious to know if he lost his ever loving mind, so of course, Summerhall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loose Bolt Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 1. She wolves. Or what really happened in the North during that time. 2. Mad Danelle. Or what were real reasons why house Lothston was wiped out. 3. Peake Uprising. What really happened b4 and during that incident? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broken one Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 Anything really, And the more Brynden Rivers the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLastWolf Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 Dunk Egg Bloodraven More of the above That makes four I guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megorova Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 Even though I am very interested in finding out what happened at Summerhall, if we will have only three more novels, then I would rather prefer them not to cover events at Summerhall. Because there are other ways in which we can find out what happened then. Shiera Seastar either was present at Summerhall during the burning, or she was somewhere away but she was observing thru glass candle what was happening. And because she is a character in the main series, Quaithe, GRRM can reveal thru her what happened then. Barristan Selmy also was there. Furthermore, Sam could find at the Citadel information about those events, for example something like a diary of Summerhall's maester, the one who was helping Rhaella during Rhaegar's birth, when the castle was burning. About the Peake Uprising, Aenys Blackfyre's execution and how Egg became the King and Bloodraven got sent to The Wall, we can find out from Bloodraven himself, if he will tell Bran what happened to him prior the Cave. I think that the Ghost of High Heart is Rohanne Webber-Lannister, and that Jenny of Oldstones was her daughter and Varys' mother. Rohanne and Dunk had a brief semi-relationship, and Brienne, who is Dunk's descendant, is now somewhere in that area where the Ghost resides. If they will meet, then the Ghost, who will know (because of her magical abilities) who Briennne is, will tell her a story how Prince Duncan the Small fell in love with Rohanne's Jenny, and how Duncan the Tall, Brienne's ancestor, burned to death trying to save them at Summerhall (both Duncans died, and Jenny got kidnapped by Blackfyres, because of her magic blood inherited from Rohanne). Varys and members of Golden Company can reveal motivations and causes of all Blackfyre Rebellions, so it will be a waste to depict those events in D&E novels. One novel, the next one, we already know what it will be about - Dunk and Egg at Winterfell, shortly after events depicted in the previous novel. I think that that's when Dunk will have a relationship with Old Nan, whom I think to be Alysanne Stark and Brienne's great great grandmother. So, there's only two novels left. Thus, if those events that I mentioned above (Egg becoming the King, Jenny, Summerhall) will be revealed thru some other sources, not thru D&E novels, then the two remaining novels I want to be about Dunk and Egg's first coming to Targaryen court, and about Dunk finding out that he's a Blackfyre. Second novel should cover Dunk's interactions with Targaryen courtiers, their reaction to him (that will be really entertaining ), Dunk's interactions with Daemon II Blackfyre (who's supposed to be there at court for the next five years after he got captured. He has a gift of foresight, he knows that Dunk will become a Kingsguard. Maybe he died because he found out that Dunk is his half-brother, so Shiera killed him to prevent him from revealing this information to Dunk), interactions between Bloodraven and Shiera Seastar, Dunk getting into troubles and Egg saving his neck. And the third novel should reveal how did Daemon II died and the Third Rebellion started. Dunk and Egg took active part in the battle of that Rebellion. That's when Blackfyre-sword disappeared. I think that when Bittersteel was seized in that battle and then sent to The Wall, Dunk was escorting him there, and the sword was also there. I think that the piece of chipped garnet that Dunk has, is a stone from Blackfyre's pommel, and that by that stone Bittesteel will recognize that Dunk is Daemon I's lost child. I think that Dunk's parents is Daemon Blackfyre and Daenerys Targaryen, and that Dunk was born at Water Gardens in Dorne, and then sent to KL to Daemon. And Dunk was the real reason why Daemon rebelled against his brother King Daeron, because Daeron refused to legitimize Daemon's bastard born by Daenerys. It's likely that Bittersteel revealed to Dunk who he is, and then Dunk let him escape, and then became a Kingsguard, to abdicate from any ancestral rights that he could have had as a son of a Blackfyre. If, by giving Blackfyre-sword to Daemon, Aegon IV chose him as his heir (not his firstborn Daeron), and then, by giving to Duncan a piece of gemstone from that sword's pommel, Daemon had chosen Duncan as his heir, then Duncan is the rightful King of 7K, Daemon I and then Duncan, not Daeron, Maekar, Egg and the other Targaryens. Thus, if I can have only three D&E novels, then I want them to be about - 1. D&E at Winterfell, 2. D&E at Targaryen court, 3. Third Blackfyre Rebellion, the ending of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floki of the Ironborn Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 4 hours ago, Megorova said: Even though I am very interested in finding out what happened at Summerhall, if we will have only three more novels, then I would rather prefer them not to cover events at Summerhall. Because there are other ways in which we can find out what happened then. Shiera Seastar either was present at Summerhall during the burning, or she was somewhere away but she was observing thru glass candle what was happening. And because she is a character in the main series, Quaithe, GRRM can reveal thru her what happened then. Barristan Selmy also was there. Furthermore, Sam could find at the Citadel information about those events, for example something like a diary of Summerhall's maester, the one who was helping Rhaella during Rhaegar's birth, when the castle was burning. About the Peake Uprising, Aenys Blackfyre's execution and how Egg became the King and Bloodraven got sent to The Wall, we can find out from Bloodraven himself, if he will tell Bran what happened to him prior the Cave. I think that the Ghost of High Heart is Rohanne Webber-Lannister, and that Jenny of Oldstones was her daughter and Varys' mother. Rohanne and Dunk had a brief semi-relationship, and Brienne, who is Dunk's descendant, is now somewhere in that area where the Ghost resides. If they will meet, then the Ghost, who will know (because of her magical abilities) who Briennne is, will tell her a story how Prince Duncan the Small fell in love with Rohanne's Jenny, and how Duncan the Tall, Brienne's ancestor, burned to death trying to save them at Summerhall (both Duncans died, and Jenny got kidnapped by Blackfyres, because of her magic blood inherited from Rohanne). Varys and members of Golden Company can reveal motivations and causes of all Blackfyre Rebellions, so it will be a waste to depict those events in D&E novels. One novel, the next one, we already know what it will be about - Dunk and Egg at Winterfell, shortly after events depicted in the previous novel. I think that that's when Dunk will have a relationship with Old Nan, whom I think to be Alysanne Stark and Brienne's great great grandmother. So, there's only two novels left. Thus, if those events that I mentioned above (Egg becoming the King, Jenny, Summerhall) will be revealed thru some other sources, not thru D&E novels, then the two remaining novels I want to be about Dunk and Egg's first coming to Targaryen court, and about Dunk finding out that he's a Blackfyre. Second novel should cover Dunk's interactions with Targaryen courtiers, their reaction to him (that will be really entertaining ), Dunk's interactions with Daemon II Blackfyre (who's supposed to be there at court for the next five years after he got captured. He has a gift of foresight, he knows that Dunk will become a Kingsguard. Maybe he died because he found out that Dunk is his half-brother, so Shiera killed him to prevent him from revealing this information to Dunk), interactions between Bloodraven and Shiera Seastar, Dunk getting into troubles and Egg saving his neck. And the third novel should reveal how did Daemon II died and the Third Rebellion started. Dunk and Egg took active part in the battle of that Rebellion. That's when Blackfyre-sword disappeared. I think that when Bittersteel was seized in that battle and then sent to The Wall, Dunk was escorting him there, and the sword was also there. I think that the piece of chipped garnet that Dunk has, is a stone from Blackfyre's pommel, and that by that stone Bittesteel will recognize that Dunk is Daemon I's lost child. I think that Dunk's parents is Daemon Blackfyre and Daenerys Targaryen, and that Dunk was born at Water Gardens in Dorne, and then sent to KL to Daemon. And Dunk was the real reason why Daemon rebelled against his brother King Daeron, because Daeron refused to legitimize Daemon's bastard born by Daenerys. It's likely that Bittersteel revealed to Dunk who he is, and then Dunk let him escape, and then became a Kingsguard, to abdicate from any ancestral rights that he could have had as a son of a Blackfyre. If, by giving Blackfyre-sword to Daemon, Aegon IV chose him as his heir (not his firstborn Daeron), and then, by giving to Duncan a piece of gemstone from that sword's pommel, Daemon had chosen Duncan as his heir, then Duncan is the rightful King of 7K, Daemon I and then Duncan, not Daeron, Maekar, Egg and the other Targaryens. Thus, if I can have obly three D&E novels, then I want them to be about - 1. D&E at Winterfell, 2. D&E at Targaryen court, 3. Third Blackfyre Rebellion, the ending of it. Damn, I would be amazed if even 50% of that turns out to be right. Lots of really specific predictions, hell of a thing if they're bang-on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lannister Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 The one where Dunk and Egg find the secret archives with the transcripts of Winds of WInter and Dream of Spring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kissdbyfire Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 D&E in Winterfell, Dunk escorting Bloodraven & Aemon to the Wall (never gonna happen as a D&E novella), and Summerhall , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexis-something-Rose Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 The trip to Winterfell, Egg meeting his future wife because girls are totes full of cooties and I really want to see if we have confirmation that Betha and Melantha were sisters, because the implication is for Starks and Targaryens is pretty big should that be the case. And of course Summerhall. We all want to know what happened to Summerhall and why it's such a mystery. I think I have an idea why it's being kept a mystery. But that's a story for another day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Leftwich Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 Just them on the road meeting people bad off from the Blackfyre Rebellions, ala Brienne in AFFC, and descriptions of the food they eat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Anna Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 The She-Wolves of Winterfell for sure. A story during Maekar's reign, maybe including Bloodraven as well. Edit: I forgot but yes! a story featuring Betha. A story similar to The Sworn Sword, about the smallfolk and their lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castellan Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 I love those stories especially the first, but I think the World of Ice and fire a dead bore. I'd like at some point to know how a relatively minor lady married a Lannister, had children and later disappeared, but I'd rather be inferring it from hints that seeing every question I ever asked laid out flat and boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugorfonics Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 1. Shewolves We were promised, plus reading about the kid's ancestors seems like a must. After all, Winter is coming 2. Puppeteer She's gotta come back. Let Duncan have more fun then pocketing a lock. But it is asoiaf so it shouldnt stay too fun. Maybe something ironic, and shes really too tall? 3. Aegons coronation and Dunks cloak. I feel like D&E should remain the knight and squire story, like affcs Beauty and the Pod or asos' Hound and Arya. Therefore I dont want to see Summerhall or the reign of Egg, I want to learn asoiaf history in asoiaf, because they give the best delivery, plus i like a sense of a ambiguity. On 9/9/2020 at 1:56 AM, broken one said: And the more Brynden Rivers the better. Facts 9 hours ago, Castellan said: I love those stories especially the first, but I think the World of Ice and fire a dead bore. Facts! (The 3rds my favorite) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigella Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 I want to see what happened in Dorne (mad lady Vaith) and fill the gap between TMK and TSS. Also Tanselle, the whole story of the unlikely accession and everything regarding Bloodraven and the rest of the great bastards. Prince of dragonflies would be nice as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isobel Harper Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 The Great Counsel, meeting all the claimants The deposition of Danelle Lothston/installment of the Whents at Harrenhal Egg's wedding or Dunk joining the Kingsguard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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