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Terry Goodkind has passed away

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10 minutes ago, Lightsnake said:

this is kinda how I feel. It's like how someone once decribed Michael Crichton; abhorrent viewpoints, worldview and writing, but....a strange attachment?

Aye. I'll miss him in an odd way. RIP the Yeard.

That pretty much sums up how I feel too. 

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30 minutes ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

Yeah it's weird. 

Yeah, big 90s books. Jordon, Goodkind, Feist, Eddings, Weiss/Hickman. Hmmm Brooks. I'm forgetting one or two.

Wow a lot of those don't hold up.

I wasted my high school years reading so much crap.

Still think (earlier) Feist is the best of the bunch. The first three Riftwar, and especially the Empire trilogy, all still hold up today.

 

Of course, he was my favorite at that time too....

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17 minutes ago, Infidel said:

Still think (earlier) Feist is the best of the bunch. The first three Riftwar, and especially the Empire trilogy, all still hold up today.

Crap, Feist too. Someone send a battalion of sardukar to his front door! 

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He was 72?!  Substantially older than I thought he was (based on when I was a kid reading his books as they came out).

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3 hours ago, Myshkin said:

I don’t know how to describe how this makes me feel. People who’ve been around this board for a while know that I was not kindly disposed toward Terry Goodkind, but at the same time I felt some kind of weird connection to him. And despite generally being a bad sport about basically everything, he could sometimes be a good sport about our criticisms here. He once mailed me a Faith of the Fallen t-shirt and a signed copy of Confessor, with a funny little note attached. RIP Terry, I will genuinely miss you.

Didn't realize you had such an intimate correspondence with him. Interesting. 

 

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45 minutes ago, Jaxom 1974 said:

Didn't realize you had such an intimate correspondence with him. Interesting. 

 

His PR guy contacted me a few years ago when they were trying to clean up his online image. Right about the time they forced all the TG message boards to shut down and threw Mystar under the bus. Sadly I never spoke directly to the great man himself, as Terry didn’t believe in the internet. Still though, I treasure that Faith of the Fallen t-shirt.

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5 minutes ago, Myshkin said:

His PR guy contacted me a few years ago when they were trying to clean up his online image. Right about the time they forced all the TG message boards to shut down and threw Mystar under the bus. Sadly I never spoke directly to the great man himself, as Terry didn’t believe in the internet. Still though, I treasure that Faith of the Fallen t-shirt.

 

Wait, what happened with Mystar? This requires elaboration.

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3 minutes ago, Lightsnake said:

 

Wait, what happened with Mystar? This requires elaboration.

In a nutshell, TG got a new PR team to clean up his image and they decided to blame pretty much everything on Mystar. They even claimed Mystar posed as Terry for several of his uglier interviews.

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1 minute ago, Myshkin said:

In a nutshell, TG got a new PR team to clean up his image and they decided to blame pretty much everything on Mystar. They even claimed Mystar posed as Terry for several of his uglier interviews.

....we know how Mystar took that?

Are there like...any direct quotes? Cause wow.

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I too am a little bummed out by this news, and hope the best for his family and fans.

I’d like to say stuff like “He’s smiling down at us from Objectivist heaven, atop stacks of money he somehow brought with him.”, but will save it for later.  If anyone ever deserves an 80 page eulogy, it was this man.

RIP, TG.

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56 minutes ago, Myshkin said:

In a nutshell, TG got a new PR team to clean up his image and they decided to blame pretty much everything on Mystar. They even claimed Mystar posed as Terry for several of his uglier interviews.

And yeah, I think this is a missing puzzle piece of a story I never clicked  during lemmings time.    Sounds like an interesting story for the wake.

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55 minutes ago, Lightsnake said:

....we know how Mystar took that?

Are there like...any direct quotes? Cause wow.

Yeah count me in on needing more details on that one. Had a few uh, interactions with mystar way way way back. They did not go well.

 

2 minutes ago, VigoTheCarpathian said:

I too am a little bummed out by this news, and hope the best for his family and fans.

I’d like to say stuff like “He’s smiling down at us from Objectivist heaven, atop stacks of money he brought with.”, but will save it for later.  If anyone ever deserves an 80 page eulogy, it was this man.

RIP, TG.

i feel like maybe I should go out and kill a chicken 

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RIP, Terry. Never read a word of what he wrote outside of a few quotes on the board over the years, but I know he brought many people joy (not always in ways he intended), and he had friends and loved ones.

I think mystar withdrew from the internet after the PR people threw him under the bus (and they really, really did throw him under the bus; it was very ugly and, IMO, completely unprofessional, cruel behavior to the point where I recall people here were crying foul when they showed up on Westeros with their song and dance.)

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Faith of the Fallen is a terrific name for an emo rock band that sings about break-ups a lot. 

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As pretty much everyone's said I didn't like his books are agree with his political views but it's a bit strange for one of the big fantasy writers of the 90s and early 2000s to be gone and, of course, it's sad for his family and friends.

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I actually had several more direct interactions with him, when he emailed me to ask for my help in shutting down a website that was selling pirate copies of his book (why he couldn't get this done himself with his lawyers and publishers and greater resources, I don't know). Seemed perfectly fine. I know several publishers and editors who had much more direct interactions with him and said he could be difficult in rejecting any and all editing suggestions, but beyond that was fine.

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Yeah, big 90s books. Jordon, Goodkind, Feist, Eddings, Weiss/Hickman. Hmmm Brooks. I'm forgetting one or two.

Brooks was the 1970s, Feist, Eddings and Weis/Hickman were the early 1980s.

1990s authors would be GRRM (obviously 1970s when he started publishing SFF short stories and the 1960s for writing, but 1990s for entering the fantasy genre), Robert Jordan and Goodkind. Erikson was 1999 so people associate him more with the 2000s. Salvatore and Williams were late 1980s but close enough to the end of the decade that people associate them more with the 1990s.

Robin Hobb started publishing in the early 1980s as Megan Lindholm but switched to the Hobb name in 1995. Pratchett was the early 1980s as well and had already become quite famous before the end of the decade.

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(Makes me want to have Dennis McKiernan and David Farland put under protection!)

You'll need Farland's real name then, Dave Wolverton (under which name he wrote some weak Star Wars novels).

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