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Status of Westeros Post-GoT (SPOILERS S8/E6)

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So, I think everyone on this forum (surely) was disappointed in some way or the other with at the very least one aspect of the last couple of seasons and in particular the final season and final episode. I (being a huge GoT fan) allowed a lot of things to slide and kind of just accepted the stupid things. One thing I got really disappointed in was the ending status of Westeros.

In the final meeting, Sansa declares independence for the North but EVERYONE else bends the knee to “Bran the Broken”. I for one think this is outrageous and would have even been “happy” if the actual result of the meeting was the country returning to a 7 Kingdoms Structure as follows -

- The North, Riverlands and Vale: Declare Sansa as their queen. Sansa united the Vale to the North’s cause for the Battle of the Bastards and the Knights of the Vale fought at Winterfell to defend the north from the White Walkers. The great lords (Well Lord Royce) stood up for Sansa when it came to executing Littlefinger for treason and thus, I think that the Vale would swear fealty to Sansa. This could possibly be backed up via a marriage alliance between Robin Arryn and Sansa. The Riverlands fought for Robb Stark in the War of the Five Kings and (I believe) would once again swear fealty to the new Queen in the North, the daughter of Catelyn Tully (and Edmure’s niece).

 

- The Iron Islands: This really annoyed me. No way would Yara just sit back and allow the North to declare independence when the Ironborn have started two different wars for independence in the past two decades, so I think this explains itself. The Iron Islands would become independent under either the direct rule of Yara or they’d hold another Kingsmoot and elect a new King.

 

- The Westerlands: In the absence of all members of House Lannister, the great houses (probably Lord Crakehall, Lord Marbrand and Lord Brax) sit on the meeting and declare independence, returning to the Rock or Lannisport to elect a new Monarch of the Westerlands. They would also agree to exile Tyrion for his crimes of murdering Tywin.

 

- The Stormlands: They would declare Gendry Baratheon their King and that would be that. Davos would be the Hand of the King.

 

- The Reach: Like the Westerlands, in place of the great house Tyrell, the other great houses of Redwyne and Rowan (House Tarly being extinct as well) would return to the Reach to elect a new ruler of the Reach.

 

- Dorne: Like the Westerlands and the Reach, the great lords would elect a new Prince of Dorne.

 

Obviously, this leaves us with 6 kingdoms so the 7th could either be a new Crownlands where they rule from Dragonstone (Possibly under the rule of Tyrion?) Or the 7th Kingdom is the Riverlands, making Edmure king of the Trident. Regardless, I would have liked to see Kings Landing become a desolate destroyed landmark (like Summerhall or Valaryia) where all the surviving townspeople of the burning would retreat to the nearby villages and towns.

 

On a side note, I think it would have been a nice touch to hear something about the Dothraki following a Khal who has begun raiding lands around the Reach. No way in hell would a Khalasar of Dothraki flee back across the sea (they followed Dany) or bend the knee to a cripple.

 

Like I said, this would have just been my preferred ending based on how they set things up. Let me know what you think

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king bran goes and forsees all of this & sends in the cavalry to deal with any rebellion.

king bran knows everything, my friend.

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The Status of Westeros post-Game of Thrones is that Benioff & Weiss just plain didn't think it out, admit they didn't think about anything after Daenerys dies until they were filming and hastily threw it together (as they openly admit in their behind the scenes videos).

The Status of Westeros post-Game of Thrones is the same as the status of the X-Men universe after the failure of X-Men 3:  there's eventually going to be a new adaptation that erases and supersedes it.

"Benioff and Weiss-eros" is not going to continue to exist as an ongoing franchise - an ongoing, "persistent fictional universe".  It was a con job, a fraud, that lasted a decade.

And while many were in denial since Season 5, even the casual fans hated Season 8, so there isn't a big groundswell of support for it.

Don't you understand that "TV-Sansa" doesn't even exist as a coherent, fictional character?  Hasn't since Season 5?  That it was just Benioff & Weiss randomly pushing ACTORS, not characters, around into "big scenes" to show them off for Emmy awards?  

You can't think out "what happens next" because what they presented wasn't just "bad" or "something we disagree with"....it was genuinely incoherent (The North getting independence just because Sansa asks for it, but the Iron Islands and Dorne not?)

Edited by The Dragon Demands

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The master of coin doesn't even know how borrowing money works so there is going to be an economic crisis in Westeros. 

The Lord Paramount of the Reach is some random mercenary with no claim to that domain and surrounded by numerous houses who do. So there's going to be a civil war in the Reach, which shall likely mean a food shortage for the rest of Westeros. 

The Hand of the King and de facto ruler of the Six Kingdoms is completely incompetent so Westeros shall be run into the ground. 

All the Lannisters are either dead or disgraced. Except for one. All hail Reginald Lannister! Lord of Casterly Rock! Lord Paramount of the Westerlands and Warden of the west! Long may he reign!

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On 9/25/2020 at 12:04 PM, The Dragon Demands said:

The Status of Westeros post-Game of Thrones is that Benioff & Weiss just plain didn't think it out, admit they didn't think about anything after Daenerys dies until they were filming and hastily threw it together (as they openly admit in their behind the scenes videos).

The Status of Westeros post-Game of Thrones is the same as the status of the X-Men universe after the failure of X-Men 3:  there's eventually going to be a new adaptation that erases and supersedes it.

"Benioff and Weiss-eros" is not going to continue to exist as an ongoing franchise - an ongoing, "persistent fictional universe".  It was a con job, a fraud, that lasted a decade.

And while many were in denial since Season 5, even the casual fans hated Season 8, so there isn't a big groundswell of support for it.

Don't you understand that "TV-Sansa" doesn't even exist as a coherent, fictional character?  Hasn't since Season 5?  That it was just Benioff & Weiss randomly pushing ACTORS, not characters, around into "big scenes" to show them off for Emmy awards?  

You can't think out "what happens next" because what they presented wasn't just "bad" or "something we disagree with"....it was genuinely incoherent (The North getting independence just because Sansa asks for it, but the Iron Islands and Dorne not?)

Thinking back on Sansa: why couldn't she just ask Daenerys to retain independence if it's so dang important for her? Yara asked.

Edited by Angel Eyes

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