williamjm Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 Thanks to @AncalagonTheBlack for posting the trailer in the previous thread just before it got closed: Hopefully this will manage to be a bit more coherently plotted than season 2, but I'm struggling a bit to rekindle my enthusiasm for the show. It looks like we'll be getting the Lakeside plotline from the book, but I'm not sure what's going on in much of the rest of the trailer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3CityApache Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 It took me a while to watch the whole second season, but after some thought I realised I did like it, and probably even more than the first at that. It was just more about atmosphere than the plot I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HexMachina Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Missed this, sorry for the duplicate thread. Hadn’t realised Anansi was cut. Apparently the split wasn’t amicable either: https://variety.com/2019/tv/news/orlando-jones-fired-american-gods-interview-mr-nancy-1203436890/ Got to say this production has been one car crash after another since season one. I’m not sure I’ll tune in for season 3 tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltaran Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Did I see Danny Trejo in there briefly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamjm Posted October 13, 2020 Author Share Posted October 13, 2020 7 hours ago, HelenaExMachina said: Hadn’t realised Anansi was cut. Apparently the split wasn’t amicable either: https://variety.com/2019/tv/news/orlando-jones-fired-american-gods-interview-mr-nancy-1203436890/ I had forgotten about that but I remember now reading it at the time. I thought Jones was good in the role so it is a shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poobah Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 8 hours ago, HelenaExMachina said: Missed this, sorry for the duplicate thread. Hadn’t realised Anansi was cut. Apparently the split wasn’t amicable either: https://variety.com/2019/tv/news/orlando-jones-fired-american-gods-interview-mr-nancy-1203436890/ Got to say this production has been one car crash after another since season one. I’m not sure I’ll tune in for season 3 tbh Wow I hadn't seen this, what a shitshow. No idea what's going on behind the scenes but sounds like nothing good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annara Snow Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 I never finished season 2 and now I kind of don't know if I want to, after all the behind the scenes drama an changes of showrunners. Though I'm curious how they'll do Lakeside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HexMachina Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 11 hours ago, Annara Snow said: I never finished season 2 and now I kind of don't know if I want to, after all the behind the scenes drama an changes of showrunners. Though I'm curious how they'll do Lakeside. Season 2 ends with a distinct pfft (imagine that as the sound of air escaping a sofa when you flop down on it. The storytelling overall in season 2 really feels all over the place. I think all of the behind the scenes drama since season one has really showed in the way the show has developed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamjm Posted October 18, 2020 Author Share Posted October 18, 2020 9 hours ago, HelenaExMachina said: Season 2 ends with a distinct pfft (imagine that as the sound of air escaping a sofa when you flop down on it. The storytelling overall in season 2 really feels all over the place. I think all of the behind the scenes drama since season one has really showed in the way the show has developed. It's a shame because there are clearly some really talented people involved and there have been plenty of great bits over the first two seasons but the whole is ending up less than the sum of its parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadlines? What Deadlines? Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 The behind the scenes drama is indeed confusing. Replacing the show runners from season 1 was bad enough but letting Jones go was just crazy. Season 1 was brilliant. I have yet to finish season 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HexMachina Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 9 hours ago, williamjm said: It's a shame because there are clearly some really talented people involved and there have been plenty of great bits over the first two seasons but the whole is ending up less than the sum of its parts. Yep, completely agree. Its especially disappointing because of how much i enjoyed Season one and the performances from the rest of the cast. Had so much potential. I’m kind of curious as to just where these problems are stemming from because there has to be a root cause for them to be so persistent 2 hours ago, Deadlines? What Deadlines? said: The behind the scenes drama is indeed confusing. Replacing the show runners from season 1 was bad enough but letting Jones go was just crazy. Season 1 was brilliant. I have yet to finish season 2. Trying to think of a list of the cast and crew that have left. Christin Chenoweth and Gillian Anderon, Fuller and Green, Orlando Jones, I believe the season 2 co-producer left mid production too. The way they wrote Chenoweth out was stupid too. “Oh you ran over her bunnies so she just disappeared and wont be coming back.” Um, okay, sure whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadlines? What Deadlines? Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 58 minutes ago, HelenaExMachina said: Yep, completely agree. Its especially disappointing because of how much i enjoyed Season one and the performances from the rest of the cast. Had so much potential. I’m kind of curious as to just where these problems are stemming from because there has to be a root cause for them to be so persistent Trying to think of a list of the cast and crew that have left. Christin Chenoweth and Gillian Anderon, Fuller and Green, Orlando Jones, I believe the season 2 co-producer left mid production too. The way they wrote Chenoweth out was stupid too. “Oh you ran over her bunnies so she just disappeared and wont be coming back.” Um, okay, sure whatever. The way it was reported at the time Chenoweth chose to leave because of Fuller's exit. Who knows. Still, season 1 was amazing. For me, it might have been the best thing on television that year. I read the book and I liked it, although I thought Shadow's tour of Lakeside felt like it went about 20 pages too long, so next season will be interesting. Maybe that stuff will translate better to the small screen. If anything, I think season 1 might have been better than the book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annara Snow Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 1 hour ago, HelenaExMachina said: Yep, completely agree. Its especially disappointing because of how much i enjoyed Season one and the performances from the rest of the cast. Had so much potential. I’m kind of curious as to just where these problems are stemming from because there has to be a root cause for them to be so persistent Trying to think of a list of the cast and crew that have left. Christin Chenoweth and Gillian Anderon, Fuller and Green, Orlando Jones, I believe the season 2 co-producer left mid production too. The way they wrote Chenoweth out was stupid too. “Oh you ran over her bunnies so she just disappeared and wont be coming back.” Um, okay, sure whatever. Mousa Kraish (Jinn) also "wasn't asked to come back". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HexMachina Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 18 hours ago, Annara Snow said: Mousa Kraish (Jinn) also "wasn't asked to come back". Hmm, heavy side eye from me. Fremantle saying: "Jones' option was not picked up because Mr. Nancy, among other characters, is not featured in the portion of the book we are focusing on within season three." after two seasons with entirely invented storylines to keep people around? I'm sorry, I may be gullible but I'm not stupid. (Not aimed at you Annara, just at the production company) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadlines? What Deadlines? Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 5 hours ago, HelenaExMachina said: Hmm, heavy side eye from me. Fremantle saying: "Jones' option was not picked up because Mr. Nancy, among other characters, is not featured in the portion of the book we are focusing on within season three." after two seasons with entirely invented storylines to keep people around? I'm sorry, I may be gullible but I'm not stupid. (Not aimed at you Annara, just at the production company) I don't know about that. Feast For Crows largely omitted a bunch of primary and secondary characters. GoT had a season without Bran, Meera, Jojen, and Hodor in it as I recall. There are certainly actors who didn't stick around for strictly narrative reasons, but it's a bit of a leap to assume that's probably the case across the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annara Snow Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 18 hours ago, HelenaExMachina said: Hmm, heavy side eye from me. Fremantle saying: "Jones' option was not picked up because Mr. Nancy, among other characters, is not featured in the portion of the book we are focusing on within season three." after two seasons with entirely invented storylines to keep people around? I'm sorry, I may be gullible but I'm not stupid. (Not aimed at you Annara, just at the production company) If it was just for narrative reasons, they should've done a better job explaining that to the actors in question, making ti clear to them that they would be called back and working it all out with them. Which they obviously haven't done, so I call BS on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HexMachina Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 17 hours ago, Deadlines? What Deadlines? said: I don't know about that. Feast For Crows largely omitted a bunch of primary and secondary characters. GoT had a season without Bran, Meera, Jojen, and Hodor in it as I recall. There are certainly actors who didn't stick around for strictly narrative reasons, but it's a bit of a leap to assume that's probably the case across the board. 5 hours ago, Annara Snow said: If it was just for narrative reasons, they should've done a better job explaining that to the actors in question, making ti clear to them that they would be called back and working it all out with them. Which they obviously haven't done, so I call BS on that. Agreed with Annara, it could have been innocuous but just looking at the context and responses of the actors it's pretty clear something stinks here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadlines? What Deadlines? Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 17 minutes ago, HelenaExMachina said: Agreed with Annara, it could have been innocuous but just looking at the context and responses of the actors it's pretty clear something stinks here 5 hours ago, Annara Snow said: If it was just for narrative reasons, they should've done a better job explaining that to the actors in question, making ti clear to them that they would be called back and working it all out with them. Which they obviously haven't done, so I call BS on that. I agree, they should have done a better job of informing the talent in a timely manner. That has nothing to do with what's required by the narrative. They're about to start their third season with their third different show runner. There's clearly more going on behind the scenes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gertrude Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Yeah, I'm finding it hard to care about this anymore. It was fine, and even good, but never as good as I wanted it to be. It's too bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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