sifth Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 If Noir really is gone, I’m gonna be upset. I always liked how he was the wild card, always lurking in the background. He deserved a much better send off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winterfell is Burning Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 I have to agree with the sentiment of disappointment with the finale. I had the impression throughout this entire season they are spinning their wheels to keep the status quo unchanged as much as possible, perhaps to milk (no pun intended) as much seasons as possible, and the finale more or less confirmed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 (edited) That's the thing w/all the superhero franchises/universes. They have to keep doing the same thing over and over and over -- and OVER! OTOH Spoiler I can shoot somebody in Times Square and They will love me! And that's how it ends. Honestly, the only affective [stet] bit of the finale was Spoiler the end of Noir, coz he was the most interesting of them all, so of course They wouldn't tell us anything about Noir. Feh. But They must keep the franchise in play. Feh. That's the entire point of superheroes. And yet idiot boys believe They should be able to be superheroes, or at least have superhero strength/skills/something, so They too can destroy w/impunity. Edited July 9, 2022 by Zorral Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvinus85 Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 This finale was a bit of a mirror of the season 2 finale. Ryan this time chooses Homelander and Butcher is left looking defeated. A good woman "dies" instead of an evil one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winterfell is Burning Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 Also, once again I don't understand what A-Train and Deep are still doing on the show, specially the latter. I'd certainly have them out of the show rather than Maeve and Noir Maia 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nictarion Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 Deep provides a lot of comedic scenes though. The biggest laugh I got from the finale was Cassandra’s book “In too Deep.” I would certainly miss him. briantw and JGP 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briantw Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 23 minutes ago, Nictarion said: Deep provides a lot of comedic scenes though. The biggest laugh I got from the finale was Cassandra’s book “In too Deep.” I would certainly miss him. He's good for two or three absolutely hilarious scenes per season and thus is worth keeping around. Chilipep 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ran Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 Have to agree with the finale being underwhelming. It feels like it ultmately left the show as an incremental step forward from the previous season, but had been setup to go much further. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spockydog Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 (edited) It basically looked and felt like a mid-season break. Edited July 9, 2022 by Spockydog Prince of the North, Ran and Winterfell is Burning 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartofice Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 Very strange treatment of Noir, to build on him with the cartoon characters of his psyche but never actually have him really DO anything felt like a waste. Yeah the whole season feels like a set up for something.. but that’s all it was Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvinus85 Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 Eric Kripke has said that the actor who played Noir will return to play a new? Noir. I think what this means is that because Noir was a silent, face-hidden, enigmatic character, that Vought will likely replace him to cover up his death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbunting Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 2 hours ago, Corvinus85 said: Eric Kripke has said that the actor who played Noir will return to play a new? Noir. I think what this means is that because Noir was a silent, face-hidden, enigmatic character, that Vought will likely replace him to cover up his death. I read it as the official story is that Noir would have died from the Soldier boy battle and a new Noir, played by the same guy in the same suit, will replace him. Maybe not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maia Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 As I feared, a disappointing finale after a great season. Homelander is still untouchable and now even more so because he has Ryan, the Deep and A-Train are still his bootlickers, the Boys are somehow still alive and somehow somebody is still funding them, they wrote out another woman and a bit character with a bad-ass design... And IMHO the only reason Maeve isn't dead is because they wanted to avoid "kill your gays" trope. How very boring. This is why I never could get into regular superhero comics and they are emulating their worst aspects while pretending to be an edgy and critical take on them... Meh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltaran Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 I get the feeling that the scene with A-Train and his brother is going to set up for A-Train switching sides over the course of next season and end up working with the Boys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winterfell is Burning Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Maltaran said: I get the feeling that the scene with A-Train and his brother is going to set up for A-Train switching sides over the course of next season and end up working with the Boys Even if he does, what's the point? By the way this ended, nothing indicates to me that the next season will not end with pretty much the same way. They'll even have a new Noir, played by the same actor. Chilipep 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 (edited) What was Noir's superpower? What did he ever do? I kept waiting to learn. But, no. I got stupid cartoons, that revealed, propelled, nothing. Just like that song and dance number in the hospital with staff, K and Frenchie, to no point, other than 'being in love.' This season was a rather organizational and structural narrative mess. It has the massive moments of extraordinary violence into which it periodically explodes. But so what? And no, I wasn't in the least emotionally involved or intellectually either, except in the critical mode. But what else does one expect of superduper franchises, even if they are satirical? So much so that they even self-reference the endless looping via quoting Soldier Boy's dad sayin that becoming a sooperdooper via a drug was 'cheating,' that remained still that disappointing namby pamby girly boy. Edited July 9, 2022 by Zorral Maia 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartofice Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 The end of this season should have been a climactic reset point for the story, a chance to really take risks and change the status quo. In fact all signs pointed to them doing something like that throughout, which is what makes it so doubly disappointing that only a small baby step was made forward, and next season just looks like more of the same. I was hoping that Soldier Boy and Butcher would kill Homelander. I wanted Black Noir, A-Train and The Deep to somehow be involved in helping out. Butcher should have died from taking V. That would clean the slate for next season, do something different, a new set of heroes or anything different. Of course the above would never happen but it would have been more interesting than what we got. I’m not back to where I am by the end of season 2, questioning whether I’m going to continue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGP Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 I'd largely prefer they'd left it a hanger and not revealed either Maeve or Soldier Boy's survival. Not sure where they go from here. I never read the series so don't know if or where they're pulling from, but starting the next season at the same place but Soldier Boy is also loose and just keep going would be pretty awesome, imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceChampion Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 I hadn't realized that was Todd, the guy who MM punched out, who was cheering Homelander after the latter murders that guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 It's clear they're still following the comics, even if in a fairly loose way. Spoiler The political stuff is the next major storyline, which culminated in the comics (from what I understand) with Homelander saying fuck it and taking over the White House himself, where he is finally killed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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