Mark Antony Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 Hateful Eight is awesome and is a Christmas movie. These are the facts. 1 hour ago, Deadlines? What Deadlines? said: I need to see that. The Conversation is a pretty much perfect movie. The ending has stuck with me ever since I saw it a few years ago. Coppola’s run in the 70s is insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Mark Antony said: Hateful Eight is awesome and is a Christmas movie. These are the facts. You sir have gone too far! Also, imo Hateful Eight is a lot better the second time you see it. I had really mixed feelings after my first viewing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 5 hours ago, Maithanet said: I'm aware of that theory. On the whole Reveal hidden contents I definitely think that Childs is assimilated and that MacReady figures that out and that's why he laughs at the end. How MacReady figures that out could be any of: 1. Childs has changed clothes. When the Thing assimilates you, it ruins your clothes, so him changing clothes is extremely suspicious. It is hard to come up with a reasonable explanation for why he would have gone to the trouble to do this given all that was happening. 2. Childs breath isn't steaming as much as MacReady's breath. 3. Childs accepts the drink, even though earlier in the movie they establish that Thing can spread by even a small amount of saliva. It is almost impossible to believe that Childs would do this. 4. Possibly the bottle is filled with gasoline, which confirms MacReady's suspicions from items #1-3. But personally I don't even think it is needed. Spoiler The first point you cited is really interesting, and it's something I've always overlooked. If you're right, I don't think the gas theory matters. But your second and third points don't seem like that big of a deal. I've never heard that all people's breath looks the same in the cold, and if you're pretty sure you're going to die, why not hit the head on some scotch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red snow Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 I'm onto the second season of "succession" and the show gets better with every episode. I don't think I've enjoyed a cast or characters and dialogue so much since "Deadwood". One of the best black comedies out there - and I really have to view it as that, otherwise it's just a bunch of crazy power hungry spoiled brats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maithanet Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Tywin et al. said: Hide contents The first point you cited is really interesting, and it's something I've always overlooked. If you're right, I don't think the gas theory matters. But your second and third points don't seem like that big of a deal. I've never heard that all people's breath looks the same in the cold, and if you're pretty sure you're going to die, why not hit the head on some scotch? Thing spoilers Spoiler Even if I'm going to die, I am definitely not going to do something that might get me assimilated. Freezing to death is a LOT better than that. Child's breath looks very different. If you just pull up the final scene, it is quite noticeable that MacReady's breath is steaming like 10X as much. I definitely think it was done intentionally by the film, not just a coincidence about Russell and David's manner of breathing. Now, you can assume it's a red herring, that's your choice - the ending is ambiguous after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 Alien worlds on netflix, what's going on? It is so weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nictarion Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 41 minutes ago, red snow said: I'm onto the second season of "succession" and the show gets better with every episode. I don't think I've enjoyed a cast or characters and dialogue so much since "Deadwood". One of the best black comedies out there - and I really have to view it as that, otherwise it's just a bunch of crazy power hungry spoiled brats. I’ve been looking for something to binge after finishing Perry Mason, think I’ll give this a try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leofric Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 46 minutes ago, red snow said: I'm onto the second season of "succession" and the show gets better with every episode. I don't think I've enjoyed a cast or characters and dialogue so much since "Deadwood". One of the best black comedies out there - and I really have to view it as that, otherwise it's just a bunch of crazy power hungry spoiled brats. I didn't find the first few episodes funny enough to to get past watching "a bunch of crazy power hungry spoiled brats" who I thoroughly disliked. So I gave up on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Maithanet said: Thing spoilers Reveal hidden contents Even if I'm going to die, I am definitely not going to do something that might get me assimilated. Freezing to death is a LOT better than that. Child's breath looks very different. If you just pull up the final scene, it is quite noticeable that MacReady's breath is steaming like 10X as much. I definitely think it was done intentionally by the film, not just a coincidence about Russell and David's manner of breathing. Now, you can assume it's a red herring, that's your choice - the ending is ambiguous after all. Spoiler I just watched it and you're right. Even with some lighting disparities it's clear the difference was done on purpose. So I guess testing Childs to see if he will drink it and MacReady's laugh is the key to indicate that Childs has likely been assimilated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalbear Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 Another aspect of The Thing that is great - and there are so many - is that the characters are acting largely intelligently. They do figure out what's going on quickly. They do think about ways to deal with the problems. They quickly figure out how much shit they are in, and how they can't trust anyone. There are very few, if any, truly stupid decisions like hugging it out with a creature or something. They're just so hugely over their heads that it doesn't matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A True Kaniggit Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 3 hours ago, Kalbear Total Landscaping said: Another aspect of The Thing that is great - and there are so many - is that the characters are acting largely intelligently. They do figure out what's going on quickly. They do think about ways to deal with the problems. They quickly figure out how much shit they are in, and how they can't trust anyone. There are very few, if any, truly stupid decisions like hugging it out with a creature or something. They're just so hugely over their heads that it doesn't matter. The people act smart. But the creature..... I don’t get it. It is smart enough to build a starship, but not smart enough to communicate effectively for first contact? I like to believe it was a biological weapon sent by a more intelligent third party to cleanse Earth of its native species before future settlement. It just landed in the wrong place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red snow Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 6 hours ago, Nictarion said: I’ve been looking for something to binge after finishing Perry Mason, think I’ll give this a try. Definitely worth a try! 6 hours ago, Leofric said: I didn't find the first few episodes funny enough to to get past watching "a bunch of crazy power hungry spoiled brats" who I thoroughly disliked. So I gave up on it. Like I said you have to see it more as a comedy poking fun at these horrible people otherwise I think it's hard to empathize. I know it's entirely fictional but I like the idea that the children of the mega rich are all messed up in bizarre ways because of the money and obsession with the rat race. They all make themselves miserable in order to have more because it's all they think they have left to aim for. Even though they could just walk away from it at any time and have an easy life. The cast are brilliant too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumHam Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 The thing When the one half assimilated guy is running in the snow and they catch him doesn't his breath show? I dunno it seems flimsy to me. It's not like they digitally added visible breath to one guy and not the other to suggest something, it was just cold when they shot it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 Well, well, well. As I look for something to watch, checking out what we have on Showtime, under horror, what do I find? Also, at 1:48 with credits and all, this film is pretty tightly shot. There's no dead meat on it. *And presses play* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadlines? What Deadlines? Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 1 hour ago, RumHam said: The thing Hide contents When the one half assimilated guy is running in the snow and they catch him doesn't his breath show? I dunno it seems flimsy to me. It's not like they digitally added visible breath to one guy and not the other to suggest something, it was just cold when they shot it. Continuity error. It's fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Antony Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 9 hours ago, Nictarion said: I’ve been looking for something to binge after finishing Perry Mason, think I’ll give this a try. You’re gonna love it, trust me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalbear Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 5 hours ago, A True Kaniggit said: The people act smart. But the creature..... I don’t get it. It is smart enough to build a starship, but not smart enough to communicate effectively for first contact? I like to believe it was a biological weapon sent by a more intelligent third party to cleanse Earth of its native species before future settlement. It just landed in the wrong place. Nah. It was incredibly smart. It has no interest in first contact. Why would you attempt to make first contact with an ant colony? Or even better, what it tried to do WAS first contact. For an organism that can assimilate any life it comes in contact with the most efficient way to communicate is taking them over. They're a biological borg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veltigar Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 Since we're past 400 posts and I still owe a lot of you a response, I have started a new thread Will answer there. The link to a new thread: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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