Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, kairparavel said: No relegation here. We really should be able to relegate Nebraska though.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kairparavel Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 42 minutes ago, Raja said: Anyone have any decent suggestions on books specifically regarding unions and their history in the US? From what I can tell they are *fairly* weak and I'd love a decent book about how it's gotten to this point. I haven't read any but I've seen other people recommend at least some ofv these. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/arts/7-books-that-dive-into-the-long-history-of-americas-labor-movement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sci-2 Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 Just now, Gaston de Foix said: Yeah. The real question is will he run in 2024 blaming the China virus and election fraud for his 2020 defeat. As I read in an article somewhere he has Saddam Hussein like numbers with the base. They'll give him the nomination again. But Don Jr. and Ivanka may make a run for it instead. I think many Republican contenders are going to start dumping any dirt they have on Trump if they can avoid staining themselves. They must realize he's currently their biggest obstacle to a 2024 party nomination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, Gaston de Foix said: Yeah. The real question is will he run in 2024 blaming the China virus and election fraud for his 2020 defeat. As I read in an article somewhere he has Saddam Hussein like numbers with the base. They'll give him the nomination again. But Don Jr. and Ivanka may make a run for it instead. That's an interesting one. He'd fire up the base again, which is bad, but he'd also massively fire up opposition as well. Some may make the calculation that Trump might be more certain of defeat than a mediocre Republican who doesn't immediately appear to be mentally deranged, who'd probably attract back the Lincoln Projecters and moderate Republicans who stayed far away from Trump this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaston de Foix Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 1 minute ago, Werthead said: That's an interesting one. He'd fire up the base again, which is bad, but he'd also massively fire up opposition as well. Some may make the calculation that Trump might be more certain of defeat than a mediocre Republican who doesn't immediately appear to be mentally deranged, who'd probably attract back the Lincoln Projecters and moderate Republicans who stayed far away from Trump this time. Exactly. I completely agree that is the calculation people will make. But the institutional Republican party couldn't do anything in 2016 to stop him from getting the nomination even when they genuinely believed he spelled electoral doom. I doubt they'll be much better equipped in 2024. I think a Republican could easily win in 2024 if he could unify the Trump base and also reach to some moderates. But I think the only person who could do that is....Ivanka Trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centrist Simon Steele Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 1 hour ago, DanteGabriel said: This is ominous... https://www.npr.org/sections/live-updates-2020-election-results/2020/11/06/932376507/trump-dumps-3-agency-leaders-in-wake-of-election Maybe Trump's going to start selling them and pocket the money so he can pay off his debts on all his failing real estate around the world. See, when you say it out loud...it's not so...bad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varysblackfyre321 Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, Gaston de Foix said: Ivanka Trump. Huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceChampion Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 I can't tell if this is real or satire.... Did Rudy have a press conference next to a crematorium........... and adult film store? I heard it was a sex toy store, that makes much more sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaston de Foix Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 Just now, Varysblackfyre321 said: Huh? It was tongue in cheek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soylent Brown Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, SpaceChampion said: I can't tell if this is real or satire.... Did Rudy have a press conference next to a crematorium........... and adult film store? I heard it was a sex toy store, that makes much more sense. Yep! It seems one of many galaxy brains in Trump's employ booked the wrong Four Seasons. Or possibly the right Four Seasons... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanteGabriel Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 15 minutes ago, Soylent Brown said: Yep! It seems one of many galaxy brains in Trump's employ booked the wrong Four Seasons. Or possibly the right Four Seasons... It's possible the correct Four Seasons wanted cash up front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polishgenius Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 36 minutes ago, Werthead said: That's an interesting one. He'd fire up the base again, which is bad, but he'd also massively fire up opposition as well. Some may make the calculation that Trump might be more certain of defeat than a mediocre Republican who doesn't immediately appear to be mentally deranged, who'd probably attract back the Lincoln Projecters and moderate Republicans who stayed far away from Trump this time. The major concern for Republicans if he runs again in the party is that if he isn't nominated he'll just run as an independent, which would slaughter their chances. But I think there's a pretty good chance he throws a huff over not being protected this time and runs as an independent anyway convinced he can go it alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 The crematorium was across the street. It was the fantasy Island porn store that was next to the Four Seasons Landscaping business. As for him running again, he won't, for so many reasons including he'll be even more overweight and even less healthy and even more lazy. Also Covid-19 is going to get a lot worse before it gets better, even though Biden-Harris will be announcing their task force that is going right to work on it on Monday. All the experts that he fired, of course, and others too. He probably hopes for a spot on Faux Noose. Unless he runs to hide in a hole in Israel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fez Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 Margin in Georgia has ticked up again, now at Biden +9,160. I saw it suggested early today that a lot of those outstanding "military and overseas ballots" are likely a combination of CDC personnel, Coca Cola employees, and Delta employees rather than military. So it would make sense if they were actually pro-Biden, and it appears they have been thus far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThinkerX Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Gaston de Foix said: The mind boggles at the number of 2024 aspirants on the Republican side: Pence, Pompeo, Haley, Hawley, Sasse, Cruz, Rubio, Cotton, Hogan, Scott, DeSantis. I doubt Cruz's hour will come again: the future belongs to others. You left out the obvious successor to Trump - the sole member of his administration with a fan base comparable to Trumps own and who was among his most valued confederates: Hannity. Hannity is wealthy, has Trump cred and is likely smarter and possessed of more self control than Trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 2 hours ago, kairparavel said: Yeah, no. The focus should be on supporting the organizers and organizations that carried us to this point. The other side can join or get out of the way. They want to heal? *They* need to do the work. No. People like me need to continue to do the work to reach out to that side of the aisle. There *has* to be outreach to that side, but not policy concessions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, ThinkerX said: You left out the obvious successor to Trump - the sole member of his administration with a fan base comparable to Trumps own and who was among his most valued confederates: Hannity. Hannity is wealthy, has Trump cred and is likely smarter and possessed of more self control than Trump. Carlson is getting much more buzz than Hannity if you're going that route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThinkerX Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 Just now, DMC said: Carlson is getting much more buzz than Hannity if you're going that route. Tucker Carlson was my second choice - though Hannity, to all intents and purposes, can claim to have been an actual Trump official. Not sure if Carlson can do the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fez Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, Chataya de Fleury said: One of them would have also been me if I were still working in Canada. There are a lot more people than just large-firm employees working overseas or not in the US. The thing that is true is that they would tend to skew highly educated. In normal times I'd totally agree. And maybe it's still the case now. But I'd imagine a decent number ended up coming back to the US because of COVID. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 11 minutes ago, Chataya de Fleury said: One of them would have also been me if I were still working in Canada. There are a lot more people than just large-firm employees working overseas or not in the US. The thing that is true is that they would tend to skew highly educated. We've got a covert Canadacommie in our midst!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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