Only 89 selfies today Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 On 12/31/2020 at 3:21 AM, SeanF said: However much Bowen Marsh may have disapproved of Jon, nothing good was going to come from killing him, because a house divided against itself will not stand. Bowen Marsh has in fact, caused a huge mess. The mess is huge. The situation is bad and you can blame that on Jon Snow. It was going to get worse if Bowen Marsh had allowed Jon to lead the wildling attack on the Boltons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CamiloRP Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 6 hours ago, Only 89 selfies today said: The mess is huge. The situation is bad and you can blame that on Jon Snow. It was going to get worse if Bowen Marsh had allowed Jon to lead the wildling attack on the Boltons. I bet it gets worse if the Bolton's attack the Wall... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackLightning Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 I am sorry but why are we trying to pacify the Boltons? You all do know that the Boltons are the enemies in the story, right? Right?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanF Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 41 minutes ago, BlackLightning said: I am sorry but why are we trying to pacify the Boltons? You all do know that the Boltons are the enemies in the story, right? Right?! No, the Boltons are good guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broken one Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 11 minutes ago, SeanF said: No, the Boltons are good guys. Roose Bolton and Walder Frey. Two loyal friends, misunderstood by mob, betrayed and humiliated by Mad Wolf. And now the Black Bastard... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alyn Oakenfist Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 5 minutes ago, broken one said: Roose Bolton and Walder Frey. Two loyal friends, misunderstood by mob, betrayed and humiliated by Mad Wolf. And now the Black Bastard... Don't forget honorable Janos Slynt and innocent Ralf the Sweetling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackLightning Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 No but seriously. Why do we care about the Boltons so much? Like Ramsay Bolton was up at the Dreadfort with an army (which might've been the largest army in the North) but did absolutely nothing to relieve or support the Night's Watch. Stannis Baratheon, however, travelled 1500 miles to relieve the Night's Watch. But yet, we're demonizing Jon Snow for 1) accepting Stannis' help and 2) negotiating with Stannis to put the Night's Watch in a better position. Not to say that the Mance Rayder issue isn't an issue (because it is a HUGE issue) but come on. Killing your Lord Commander is not making your situation any better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Stark Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 37 minutes ago, BlackLightning said: No but seriously. Why do we care about the Boltons so much? Like Ramsay Bolton was up at the Dreadfort with an army (which might've been the largest army in the North) but did absolutely nothing to relieve or support the Night's Watch. Stannis Baratheon, however, travelled 1500 miles to relieve the Night's Watch. But yet, we're demonizing Jon Snow for 1) accepting Stannis' help and 2) negotiating with Stannis to put the Night's Watch in a better position. Not to say that the Mance Rayder issue isn't an issue (because it is a HUGE issue) but come on. Killing your Lord Commander is not making your situation any better. There you go again, bringing logic and reason into fanfiction. I mean, Jon wasn't perfect, but he made some big decisions that would've helped the Nights Watch in the long term. But he's evil for wanting to free his psycho little sister from the hands of sweet, innocent Ramsay Snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
867-5309 Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 On 11/18/2020 at 7:38 PM, James Fenimore Cooper XXII said: Put yourself in BM's shoes. Jon created immeasurable damage at the wall. How would you clean up Jon's mess? Tormund should be smart enough to let Jon's death go. There are other more important things to do. The wildlings and the watch should make peace and work together to protect the wall from the others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Stark Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 29 minutes ago, 867-5309 said: Tormund should be smart enough to let Jon's death go. There are other more important things to do. The wildlings and the watch should make peace and work together to protect the wall from the others. Lol. What do you think Jon was trying to do? Did you even read the book? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alyn Oakenfist Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 57 minutes ago, Nathan Stark said: Did you even read the book? No, but I think they read fan fiction, surely that's enough, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buried Treasure Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 15 hours ago, 867-5309 said: Tormund should be smart enough to let Jon's death go. There are other more important things to do. The wildlings and the watch should make peace and work together to protect the wall from the others. Tormund was an ally of Jon, in working together to protect the Wall. He liked Jon, but is too practical to let personal preferences get in his way. He gave a hundred wildling hostages to the Watch and would probably avoid conflict for the sake of them keeping their heads. But that is only if Marsh treats the wildlings as allies. Marsh is a Steward and one of his consistent concerns is the winter food supplies. Jon had all the Free Folk who were willing to fight on equal rations with the NW, and non-fighters at barely sustainance level, what happens if Marsh cuts that share? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilac & Gooseberries Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 16 hours ago, Nathan Stark said: Lol. What do you think Jon was trying to do? Did you even read the book? The books? Books are bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alyn Oakenfist Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Lilac & Gooseberries said: The books? Books are bad. Yeah, they can massively hurt your ignorance and bigotry, including bigotry against fictional character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aline de Gavrillac Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 On 11/18/2020 at 8:00 PM, Allardyce said: Help is needed and very soon. He's out numbered by the free folk. Here's to hoping Thorne comes back in time to save the day. They will have to repair the social and political rift with the Boltons. He won't save the day if he comes back Ser Wight. Ser Alliser the Wight and Jon Wight will finally get along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saltedmalted Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 On 2/25/2021 at 2:36 AM, Buried Treasure said: what happens if Marsh cuts that share? More than rations will get cut in that case. Marsh's throat for one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilac & Gooseberries Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 1 hour ago, Aline de Gavrillac said: He won't save the day if he comes back Ser Wight. Ser Alliser the Wight and Jon Wight will finally get along. Very cool fanfiction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rose of Red Lake Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 "save the day" sounds like jealousy. Jon being alive is a threat to a favorite character and there is fear that he will steal Dany's thunder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alyn Oakenfist Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 14 minutes ago, Rose of Red Lake said: Jon being alive is a threat to a favorite character and there is fear that he will steal Dany's thunder. Jon is no threat to Daenerys. She is Azor Ahai, her beauty and intelligence are unrivalled, and she has three dragons that are filled with life and vigor. The wolf halfblood cannot even pose a threat to her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King17 Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 I can't really help marsh now he should've assassinated jon before he let the wildlings through the wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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