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I agree with Pebs - there is nothing wrong with living with parents. Many people do it for decades at a time. It's not a big deal, especially in financially difficult times.

It wouldn't work for me and mine, on account of the subsequent death. But other people like their parents and their parents like them?

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1 hour ago, Pebble thats Stubby said:

there is nothing wrong with living with parents, especially as us old people have made it almost impossible for young people to buy houses or afford to rent on their own.

Also I am now imagining Bucky when she first joined the forum actually taking part in the NHAW threads  (time travel - you pervs,  Bucky would have been well underage)   I mean you blush a lot now but when you first joined  ........  there is not a shade red enough for the colour I think you would have gone.   twas a different era.

It was also from those events I was sent some unsolicited High def, Hat not adequality worn pics.

Well yes ... it was a different era in my life as well. :blushing: 

I imagine it must have been a very colourful time on the forum.

22 minutes ago, Lightning Lord said:

I agree with Pebs - there is nothing wrong with living with parents. Many people do it for decades at a time. It's not a big deal, especially in financially difficult times.

It wouldn't work for me and mine, on account of the subsequent death. But other people like their parents and their parents like them?

Nothing wrong with it if it is something you are okay with and want ... but I feel like I have long outgrown it and just plainly don't want to do it anymore. I am so ready to be out (again, I "moved out" three times before for a few months, but came back every time) for good. Although some people just stay in their parents' house, renovating a floor above their parents' flat and move their partner and children in. It is a very Slovene thing. Not possible in my case, but even if it were, I don't think I would want that. It really has nothing to do with liking my parents or not and everything to do with my feelings of being independent.

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5 hours ago, Pebble thats Stubby said:

I remember approaching my 30th with a kinda dread.  I really did not want to be 30.  This was totally different from my 40th,  I started planning that when I was 35.

I was in my very late twenties for a while. I think I gave that up after my twenty-fifteenth birthday :)

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7 hours ago, Buckwheat said:

 

Wait, aren't you a year younger than me? I just turned 29 and I am dreading next birthday already. *shudder* I wish I could be a few years younger again and get a chance to do some things I didn't manage.

I really don't want to spend my last year as a 20-something in quarantine. :crying: Living with my parents, no less. :crying:

I am indeed. Not sure what age I’d want to go back, but being 25 again wouldn’t really help me, I think. Maybe if I went back to 21-22ish, there’d be room for change and improvement. But what’s done is done, I do look into the future with some level of positivity and believe that I can ‘make up for’ this decade in the next one. The funniest thing is that I don’t feel 28. I feel 23-4ish at best, or I think I should have been where/who I am at 23-4. It’s a weird thing, age. 

7 hours ago, Pebble thats Stubby said:

I remember approaching my 30th with a kinda dread.  I really did not want to be 30.  This was totally different from my 40th,  I started planning that when I was 35.

I hated turning 25. I Can’t report on 30 yet, but turning 25 was awful. But I don’t think it has to do with the number. It’s more to do with the achievements, I don’t have. I mean I don’t think I’d mind turning 30 If I could do so as a mother of two. And I don’t think I’d have minded 25 if getting married had been in sight. But I do mind not living up to my own expectations of life and failing to achieve milestones by the time they are supposed to be achieved. 

4 hours ago, Buckwheat said:

Nothing wrong with it if it is something you are okay with and want ... but I feel like I have long outgrown it and just plainly don't want to do it anymore. I am so ready to be out (again, I "moved out" three times before for a few months, but came back every time) for good. Although some people just stay in their parents' house, renovating a floor above their parents' flat and move their partner and children in. It is a very Slovene thing. Not possible in my case, but even if it were, I don't think I would want that. It really has nothing to do with liking my parents or not and everything to do with my feelings of being independent.

Do you feel that you depend on your parents in terms of running your life/daily routine? And that moving out would change that? 

I moved out when I was 18 but ten years later I’m still way too involved in my family’s life. And having sister live with me is just one of the thousand aspects of that. I love my family dearly but sometimes I feel like we stick our noses in one another’s business a bit too much and a bit too often. And I’m 100% guilty of this too.

As for different generations living together, turns out my new manager bought a house specifically so they could share it with his wife’s parents. So that’s definitely a thing. Then again, I think one needs very healthy family dynamics and boundaries to make that arrangement work without driving everybody nuts. When I was a kid we lived three corners from my grandparents’ and that was great. Everybody had their own personal space but free baby/house/pet sitting was at an arm’s reach and I obviously loved to spend time with them.

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54 minutes ago, RhaenysBee said:

I am indeed. Not sure what age I’d want to go back, but being 25 again wouldn’t really help me, I think. Maybe if I went back to 21-22ish, there’d be room for change and improvement. But what’s done is done, I do look into the future with some level of positivity and believe that I can ‘make up for’ this decade in the next one. The funniest thing is that I don’t feel 28. I feel 23-4ish at best, or I think I should have been where/who I am at 23-4. It’s a weird thing, age. 

I hated turning 25. I Can’t report on 30 yet, but turning 25 was awful. But I don’t think it has to do with the number. It’s more to do with the achievements, I don’t have. I mean I don’t think I’d mind turning 30 If I could do so as a mother of two. And I don’t think I’d have minded 25 if getting married had been in sight. But I do mind not living up to my own expectations of life and failing to achieve milestones by the time they are supposed to be achieved. 

I would love to go back to 25. It was a great birthday that year. I had a boyfriend then. And then it was the first New Year I spent with him and some of his friends. I was in Vienna then.

I feel the same about the achievements. I wish at least I had a stable live-in boyfriend at my age. I mean, a few years ago I was still wishing to achieve having a kid before 30, but obviously I gave up on that. :P 

But I think we would both do well to remember that these milestones we set for ourselves are arbitrary and just because one does one thing earlier or later in life doesn't make you a loser, just maybe a bit of an outlier. Still ... I really understand how you feel and feel the same too.

And fuck it, now I am wasting my time being stuck in quarantine for more than two months already. I was on a something you might call a very casual date just before the lockdown started and I would very much like to meet up with the person again to see if there is any potential there, but instead we are forbidden from socialising and I constantly fear that one of us will lose all interest before we can see each other again - the same thing that happened with my last very strong crush, which left me very sad and disappointed. :( 

/Okay, now we are in TMI territory already.

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Do you feel that you depend on your parents in terms of running your life/daily routine? And that moving out would change that? 

Yes and yes. I was the happiest, most confident and most independent in the months I lived in another country, every time, and it is harder to come back every time.

I finally have some more-or-less stable income so I could realistically move out for good, but then covid ... again. :angry: So I guess covid is ruining everything - dating life, my chance of independence from my family, and some of my career chances because I can't do the teaching certification now under lockdown. (There will still be time for that later, but I want to be done with it as soon as possible.)

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I moved out when I was 18 but ten years later I’m still way too involved in my family’s life. And having sister live with me is just one of the thousand aspects of that. I love my family dearly but sometimes I feel like we stick our noses in one another’s business a bit too much and a bit too often. And I’m 100% guilty of this too.

As for different generations living together, turns out my new manager bought a house specifically so they could share it with his wife’s parents. So that’s definitely a thing. Then again, I think one needs very healthy family dynamics and boundaries to make that arrangement work without driving everybody nuts. When I was a kid we lived three corners from my grandparents’ and that was great. Everybody had their own personal space but free baby/house/pet sitting was at an arm’s reach and I obviously loved to spend time with them.

Yep, it works for some families for intragenerational help and all. But for myself, as I mentioned, I was the happiest being a 20-something, without kids, in another country, speaking another langugae on a daily basis, and seeing my family about every 2 or maybe 2 and a half months, which seemed ideal then. So I don't think living that close to my family is something I want for myself.

In any case, moving out early if finances permit it can be great - I know I wasn't ready at 18 and was happy to stay here then, but it would have been good for me if I managed to do it earlier than 29. Wouldn't have made financial sense till now though.

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I understand, BW. I am a very independent person and I can only imagine how I would feel if I were circumstance-dictated tied to a living situation that inhibited such. I hope the COVID vaccines roll in and you can find something soon.

Best of luck on the teachering cert! I got mine a bit back and it is really nice to have that box ticked.

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6 hours ago, Lightning Lord said:

I understand, BW. I am a very independent person and I can only imagine how I would feel if I were circumstance-dictated tied to a living situation that inhibited such. I hope the COVID vaccines roll in and you can find something soon.

Best of luck on the teachering cert! I got mine a bit back and it is really nice to have that box ticked.

Thanks! You teach ESL somewhere, right? Or did I mix you up with somebody? What kind of certification do you need for that? Mine, I teach two subjects in a Slovene high school and need some sort of national exam that proves I am qualified to work with children and teenagers. I am very lucky that I even got this job without having it in the first place, because most schools demand you have it in advance (but then, you need a few months' experience to take the exam in the first place ... ).

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I only moved out at a young age of 23 (sorry Bucky and Rhae)  cos Mum and Dad where moving adding an extra 45 mins to my work journey.

I bought a 3 bedroom house for £98K,  11 months later my Brother bought a 1 bedroom flat (lease hold) on the very next street over for £110K.  If I hadn't of moved out when I did, I would have struggled to afford the same house, and I was in a very well paid job for my age,  even for my age I am now.  House prices just went insane after I bought.  this makes rents also go up.   I was lucky to be born when I was.

 

I also met Hubby at my place of work - Hey 90+% of the people at my workplace are Men so I had a lot of opportunity, only actually dated one of them (my Hubby)  so again I was very very lucky.  especially as this also meant 2 very good incomes.  So yes I was married at 28.   we wanted children.  we wanted to be done breeding by 35.   I'm 43,  and I've failed as a breeder.  But not having children has opened other opportunities,  Alan was able to retire at 50 last year with a good pension (he gets paid that at 55)  and I'll get to retire at 46.  We can (normally) go on decent holidays and don't have to worry about the kids.  We don't have to pay for their education (hence being able to retire early.  

My point other than I was incredibly lucky in most things meaning I've been able to achieve things by the ages you set, times have changed, the opportunities I had are not there for you cos you where born later.  But when one door closes others open.  No kids > retire early > Travel the world (post corona).

 

My Brother on the other hand is a failure.   Its the only way to describe him.  he's 2 years older than me, started work at the same time I did, but is a lazy fucker, has never had a girl friend.  has not had a job for 7 years and counting, won't even look, (I've caught him out on his lies about this so many times).  Lives with Mum and Dad - who donate half their pension to him cos "he needs it, really"  and drives Dad's car.

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On 12/17/2020 at 10:31 PM, Buckwheat said:

would love to go back to 25. It was a great birthday that year. I had a boyfriend then. And then it was the first New Year I spent with him and some of his friends. I was in Vienna then.

I... worked that year. He he. I started my old job in October and I remember they gave me a cherry pie at the office. 

On 12/17/2020 at 10:31 PM, Buckwheat said:

feel the same about the achievements. I wish at least I had a stable live-in boyfriend at my age. I mean, a few years ago I was still wishing to achieve having a kid before 30, but obviously I gave up on that. :P 

But I think we would both do well to remember that these milestones we set for ourselves are arbitrary and just because one does one thing earlier or later in life doesn't make you a loser, just maybe a bit of an outlier. Still ... I really understand how you feel and feel the same too.

Yeah I know, and you’re right. These kind of expectations just set one up for disappointment. And you know, who can say that I’d be any happier if I got married at 24 and had two kids. It might not even have worked out and I might have divorced or something. Heck knows. And I am glad that I didn’t settle for anybody I dated at uni. I just can’t imagine to be married to any of them. So maybe something great will come along in the next two years or in my thirties. 

 

On 12/17/2020 at 10:31 PM, Buckwheat said:

And fuck it, now I am wasting my time being stuck in quarantine for more than two months already. I was on a something you might call a very casual date just before the lockdown started and I would very much like to meet up with the person again to see if there is any potential there, but instead we are forbidden from socialising and I constantly fear that one of us will lose all interest before we can see each other again - the same thing that happened with my last very strong crush, which left me very sad and disappointed. :( 

Yes I feel you, quarantine doesn’t help a single person’s love life. Then again, I haven’t even been on a date since I live with sister. 

On 12/17/2020 at 10:31 PM, Buckwheat said:

Yep, it works for some families for intragenerational help and all. But for myself, as I mentioned, I was the happiest being a 20-something, without kids, in another country, speaking another langugae on a daily basis, and seeing my family about every 2 or maybe 2 and a half months, which seemed ideal then. So I don't think living that close to my family is something I want for myself.

In any case, moving out early if finances permit it can be great - I know I wasn't ready at 18 and was happy to stay here then, but it would have been good for me if I managed to do it earlier than 29. Wouldn't have made financial sense till now though.

Of course, I mean I don’t think one can go from being a child straight to being a parent. That independent childless adult in between is a necessary step between the two stages. In the golden age of my adulthood I visited home around every 6-8 weeks too, that was pretty ideal. 2020 increased that frequency a lot, I spent a lot of time at my family home this year, which I don’t mind, if it weren’t for the dogs and walkies into the middle of nowhere, I don’t know how I would have stayed sane. 

I remember I cried when I moved to the city for my first year at uni. :lol: it was an adorable moment. But I’m really glad I moved out then. I lived with some former classmates for a while, then moved to my own place and lived alone. That definitely had its disadvantages, but it taught me problem solving and responsibility and independence and just general life skills (and I keep saying these are things sister needs in her life too) - except cooking. That’s a life skill I still lack. Maybe this is why I’ll never be married :lmao:

But if I didn’t have that flat waiting for me and my family lived a bit closer or in the city, I wouldn’t have moved out either. The only reason I did was that I was fortunate enough to have the favorable financial circumstances.

14 hours ago, Pebble thats Stubby said:

only moved out at a young age of 23 (sorry Bucky and Rhae)  cos Mum and Dad where moving adding an extra 45 mins to my work journey.

I bought a 3 bedroom house for £98K,  11 months later my Brother bought a 1 bedroom flat (lease hold) on the very next street over for £110K.  If I hadn't of moved out when I did, I would have struggled to afford the same house, and I was in a very well paid job for my age,  even for my age I am now.  House prices just went insane after I bought.  this makes rents also go up.   I was lucky to be born when I was.

That sounds very lucky indeed. We had a similarly drastic sky rocketing of real estate prices a few years ago. It was already happening when I started looking for my current flat and we did play the waiting game for a while to see if the bubble would burst, but nope, it stayed. And even though I hate my street with passion and there are all kinds of issues with the apartment itself, I’m glad I got it at the time, because now for the same amount of money, the best I would get is half this size of a flat if it’s new(ly updated) or two thirds of the size if it needs renovation. (And renovation would add another 50% to the price) 

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@Pebble thats Stubby, thank you for your post. It puts some things into perspective. The prices of housing have grown a lot in my country too.

My condolences about the sadly no kids thing. I am glad you see the positive side of it now.

@RhaenysBee, yep, people who are married or planning to have kids right now might still face some obstacles in other areas too. At least I am glad I finished studying (mostly) and got a job that is reasonably well paid now - at least for my circumstamces. For example, if you have a baby at like 22, it must be much harder to finish studying in time while I had an MA at 24 (got a prize for the thesis around my 25th birthday, which added a lot to that whole time around my 25th birthday being amazing).

I feel like my times of being an independent childless single adult were waaaay to short to really learn much and to finish enjoying it, but yes, they were great every time. But then again, most uni students in Slovenia move out to a student dorm or shared flat and then still come home to their parents' home every weekend anyway.

And yes, a lot of the people of around my age are in a similar positions as you, as in, their parents had a flat they rented out and now the children moved in/a grandparent died or moved in a care home and now the grandchild lives there or similar - so a flat was already owned by a family member so they don't need to pay rent or buy it. Almost nobody can afford to buy by themselves. My parents have been saving up money for my and my valonqar's future lives too, so when the time comes to settle, I will have something to start with, it just isn't an existing flat yet.

Oh, and I also cried when I first moved out for Erasmus. :lol: And I was 23. I just suddenly realised I'd have to study German language and literature and this time compete with students whose first language was German, so I got really scared of that and also othet bureaucratic mess ups. Everything turned out fine though.

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4 hours ago, Buckwheat said:

yep, people who are married or planning to have kids right now might still face some obstacles in other areas too. At least I am glad I finished studying (mostly) and got a job that is reasonably well paid now - at least for my circumstamces. For example, if you have a baby at like 22, it must be much harder to finish studying in time while I had an MA at 24 (got a prize for the thesis around my 25th birthday, which added a lot to that whole time around my 25th birthday being amazing).

I finished uni when I was 23. A girl I went to school with got married that very summer and had a baby in late 2018 and to me that was the quintessential example of what I had wanted my life to be. Then I unfollowed her on Facebook for a while because she posted a lots of political content and that annoys me and I unfollow everybody who uses facebook to convey their politics. Then she popped back into my feed somehow, maybe it was an alumni Facebook group thing, I don’t remember, and I opened her profile for cute baby pics to heart only to find that she and her husband had split up. So much about plans. Her son is adorable of course. 

4 hours ago, Buckwheat said:

feel like my times of being an independent childless single adult were waaaay to short to really learn much and to finish enjoying it, but yes, they were great every time. But then again, most uni students in Slovenia move out to a student dorm or shared flat and then still come home to their parents' home every weekend anyway.

I feel that too. Which is mostly down to the fact that I spent uni going to school instead of living and I thought that fun and leisure consisted of shopping and bars. I’m sure I’d be scared of myself if I looked back on my 2012 posts here. I would never look, I’m not a sociopath, but yep, I was... a whole mood in my early twenties. And then I graduated and I was completely lost at what the hell i’m supposed to do with my life. Then after a year I found a job I enjoyed and I spent the next three “working” and hiding behind that to actually pinpoint what the hell I want to do with my life. So yeah, I could do with a few more quality years of mindfully spent independent adult life. 
 

So to spice up this deep dive into our twenties, allow me to bring in something lighter. Two years of not buying wrapping paper finally caught up with me and I have nothing to wrap gifts into, other than gift bags so ugly and tacky they could scare children. (I don’t think this is something one says in English, but it is an existing phrase in my language, something so ugly one could scare children with it.) so I need to get my backside up and go find some semi-aesthetic wrapping paper. And have another coffee before it’s late enough to finish up the wine I’ve been drinking throughout three Teams Christmases. 

 

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Yes, let's move from this conversation because it brings nothing good for my mental state either. Check your messages, Rhae.

But I don't want to talk about wrapping paper either because this means holidays and gifts and everything, but this holiday is going to be so bad and I am so afraid of the whole week off because I fear I will just be mentally lazy and not be able to bury myself into work and with nowhere to go and no way to see friends to have conversations with, I will just dwell on my bad mood and sadness and loneliness and I am honestly afraid I could do something bad to myself.

But I don't know what else to talk about either because there is literally nothing else worth mentioning happening because, again, the only thing that seems to control our lives now is covid and being locked up and lonely at home. Screw this.

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2 hours ago, Buckwheat said:

Yes, let's move from this conversation because it brings nothing good for my mental state either. Check your messages, Rhae.

But I don't want to talk about wrapping paper either because this means holidays and gifts and everything, but this holiday is going to be so bad and I am so afraid of the whole week off because I fear I will just be mentally lazy and not be able to bury myself into work and with nowhere to go and no way to see friends to have conversations with, I will just dwell on my bad mood and sadness and loneliness and I am honestly afraid I could do something bad to myself.

But I don't know what else to talk about either because there is literally nothing else worth mentioning happening because, again, the only thing that seems to control our lives now is covid and being locked up and lonely at home. Screw this.

:grouphug: again. 

After I failed to buy wrapping paper there’s not much else to say about that either. 

As for the holidays, I feel dread too, mostly about the potential of passing around covid among one another. That chance, as minuscule as it is, scares the shit out of me, because the holidays would be the worst time to get infected. I just want two weeks of peace and quiet to mentally prepare for the new year (which isn’t going to be any easier, as much as we like to pretend so). But for that reason I also feel a great anticipation, not necessarily for the tangible side of Christmas (food and lights and decoration and music), but for the spiritual peace we all desperately need. Okay Christmas topic done. 

what else do I have to offer? 
If there’s anything I need to do in the new year is to get new curtains. And vanity furniture because I cannot tell you how much I have grown to hate the current one. 

And in other news a friend just wrote me they are isolating for Christmas because her boyfriend just lost his sense of taste and smell. The dread. 

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24 minutes ago, RhaenysBee said:

:grouphug: again. 

After I failed to buy wrapping paper there’s not much else to say about that either. 

As for the holidays, I feel dread too, mostly about the potential of passing around covid among one another. That chance, as minuscule as it is, scares the shit out of me, because the holidays would be the worst time to get infected. I just want two weeks of peace and quiet to mentally prepare for the new year (which isn’t going to be any easier, as much as we like to pretend so). But for that reason I also feel a great anticipation, not necessarily for the tangible side of Christmas (food and lights and decoration and music), but for the spiritual peace we all desperately need. Okay Christmas topic done. 

what else do I have to offer? 
If there’s anything I need to do in the new year is to get new curtains. And vanity furniture because I cannot tell you how much I have grown to hate the current one. 

And in other news a friend just wrote me they are isolating for Christmas because her boyfriend just lost his sense of taste and smell. The dread. 

My country's new rules just don't make any sense at all and will probably result in way more covid during the holidays and the weeks after, which is very scary. And the schools are probably just going to stay closed for even longer, which means I cannot go to my workplace still.

I am glad the thought of Christmas brings you some spiritual peace - my family never really celebrated that way and I never felt this about it.

Curtains. Yes, sure, let's talk about your curtains and furniture. :P Tell us more. And I can tell you about cooking today? My father and I made ... I don't think there is a word in English for it ... sour cabbage leaves stuffed with a mixture of ground meat and rice. It is a winter food.

Uh. I hope your friend and the boyfriend will be okay.

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6 minutes ago, Buckwheat said:

My country's new rules just don't make any sense at all and will probably result in way more covid during the holidays and the weeks after, which is very scary. And the schools are probably just going to stay closed for even longer, which means I cannot go to my workplace still.

I am glad the thought of Christmas brings you some spiritual peace - my family never really celebrated that way and I never felt this about it.

Curtains. Yes, sure, let's talk about your curtains and furniture. :P Tell us more. And I can tell you about cooking today? My father and I made ... I don't think there is a word in English for it ... sour cabbage leaves stuffed with a mixture of ground meat and rice. It is a winter food.

Uh. I hope your friend and the boyfriend will be okay.

fortunately we didn’t loosen the restrictions for Christmas. Which of course doesn’t mean people won’t relax about them, they absolutely will, but at least officially we are still not allowed to have parties and extended family dinners. 

At my workplace we have extended the current order of business till the end of January and I doubt February will be different. 

My curtains are disgusting. Not much to talk about. I need new ones of natural fibers that are possible to clean properly. As for my house I really hate it right now, updates are long overdue, but what gets to me the most is the clutter and the mess we live with right now. Vile. 

Ooooooh! That is töltött káposzta. A lovely lovely food and an integral part of our cuisine too :cheers: 

Thanks :) 

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2 minutes ago, RhaenysBee said:

fortunately we didn’t loosen the restrictions for Christmas. Which of course doesn’t mean people won’t relax about them, they absolutely will, but at least officially we are still not allowed to have parties and extended family dinners. 

At my workplace we have extended the current order of business till the end of January and I doubt February will be different. 

My curtains are disgusting. Not much to talk about. I need new ones of natural fibers that are possible to clean properly. As for my house I really hate it right now, updates are long overdue, but what gets to me the most is the clutter and the mess we live with right now. Vile. 

Ooooooh! That is töltött káposzta. A lovely lovely food and an integral part of our cuisine too :cheers: 

Thanks :) 

Ours didn't really loosen for Christmas either ... but apparently only for pre-Christmas shopping??? Go figure. They opened some shops and services only for a few days up until the 23rd (I think). And they haven't yet decided what will be open and what not during the holiday week between Christmas and New Year, or how many people will be allowed to socialise, or whether it will be allowed to travel between regions or not.

I got new curtains in my room last year. I am ... pretty indifferent towards all the curtains in our home. My aunt once made dark curtains for the room she put my little cousin to sleep, so the room had to be made dark during the day - she made curtains from pieces of old jeans, they looked really cool.

I don't know how to pronounce that, we just call it sarma. :P

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12 minutes ago, Buckwheat said:

Ours didn't really loosen for Christmas either ... but apparently only for pre-Christmas shopping??? Go figure. They opened some shops and services only for a few days up until the 23rd (I think). And they haven't yet decided what will be open and what not during the holiday week between Christmas and New Year, or how many people will be allowed to socialise, or whether it will be allowed to travel between regions or not.

I got new curtains in my room last year. I am ... pretty indifferent towards all the curtains in our home. My aunt once made dark curtains for the room she put my little cousin to sleep, so the room had to be made dark during the day - she made curtains from pieces of old jeans, they looked really cool.

I don't know how to pronounce that, we just call it sarma. :P

Oh interesting choice. I suppose they want to give people a sense of normal? Or to help businesses? Who knows. Cafes and restaurants only work for takeaway and delivery here, but many closed altogether because they don’t have enough traffic to stay afloat. Shops are open and pretty safe, every time I went to pick anything up, I was either the only person in the shop or at least three meters from everybody else. Beauty services are open too but I doubt they have a lot of traffic as that is, unlike a shop, close contact and people are more careful with that. We have an 8pm curfew but other than that cross region/country travel is allowed. This week we had hopeful numbers but I’m afraid it’s all going down the toilet with the holidays and we’ll have a soaring daily new case count in January. At least meds and vaccines are said to be rolled out in January too. 

Ah I want to redo my old room at my mum’s house too. Actually I want to redo the entire house, but that’s definitely a mid term project. Jean curtains! What an idea! :commie: Your aunt must be a pretty creative person! 

That’s... surprisingly short and simple :D Toltott kaposzta just means stuffed cabbage. 

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18 minutes ago, RhaenysBee said:

Oh interesting choice. I suppose they want to give people a sense of normal? Or to help businesses? Who knows. Cafes and restaurants only work for takeaway and delivery here, but many closed altogether because they don’t have enough traffic to stay afloat. Shops are open and pretty safe, every time I went to pick anything up, I was either the only person in the shop or at least three meters from everybody else. Beauty services are open too but I doubt they have a lot of traffic as that is, unlike a shop, close contact and people are more careful with that. We have an 8pm curfew but other than that cross region/country travel is allowed. This week we had hopeful numbers but I’m afraid it’s all going down the toilet with the holidays and we’ll have a soaring daily new case count in January. At least meds and vaccines are said to be rolled out in January too. 

Ah I want to redo my old room at my mum’s house too. Actually I want to redo the entire house, but that’s definitely a mid term project. Jean curtains! What an idea! :commie: Your aunt must be a pretty creative person! 

That’s... surprisingly short and simple :D Toltott kaposzta just means stuffed cabbage. 

Interesting ... I would say bonkers, but whatever. It is only to help businesses.

Only shops with necessary items like food, medicine, and pet food were open for the past two months, now they opened some others too (not all, and it differs in different regions). When I went shopping, it was quite busy though.

Our curfew is 9 PM and it is staying. Travelling among regions is still not allowed (we have been stuck in communes/municipalities/whatever is the right word for the smallest administrative unit for a long time, our commune is very small and boring).

Yes, I dread this too. Really hard to keep up optimism seeing how the past months went.

House renovation seems like a big project. Does your mother agree with changing anything about the house?

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2 hours ago, Buckwheat said:

Interesting ... I would say bonkers, but whatever. It is only to help businesses.

Only shops with necessary items like food, medicine, and pet food were open for the past two months, now they opened some others too (not all, and it differs in different regions). When I went shopping, it was quite busy though.

Our curfew is 9 PM and it is staying. Travelling among regions is still not allowed (we have been stuck in communes/municipalities/whatever is the right word for the smallest administrative unit for a long time, our commune is very small and boring).

Yes, I dread this too. Really hard to keep up optimism seeing how the past months went.

House renovation seems like a big project. Does your mother agree with changing anything about the house?

Honestly, I’ve come to the conclusion that there’s no right way to treat this situation. I mean I wouldn’t know which finger to bite if I were a decision maker in these times. 

We had similar restrictions in April, ironically we had fewer cases throughout spring than we do in one day now. 

I suppose all we can do at this point is hope for the best and have faith in medicine. 

Sure, the house is 27 years old and not in a good condition. She doesn’t necessarily agree with my design ideas but it’s her house so it’s going to look the way she wants it at the end of the day. 

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