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Varys's Freudian slip, or another reason why Aegon might be legit


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5 minutes ago, Bloodraven’s Spider said:

I don’t have a timeline in regards to when Varys snuck Aegon away because Aegon was born at the Tower of Joy, son of Rhaegar and Lyanna...

Okay... care to elaborate? I mean it's an interesting theory, but is there any proof? cause the standard R+L=J has plenty of proof

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6 hours ago, Alyn Oakenfist said:

Okay... care to elaborate? I mean it's an interesting theory, but is there any proof? cause the standard R+L=J has plenty of proof

Timeline Recap:

281: Ned meets Ashara at the Tourney at Harrenhal
282- Abduction of Lyanna and deaths of Rickard and Brandon
282-283- Roberts Rebellion
283- Robb Stark born at Riverrun
284- Tower of Joy

 

283: Jon Arryn calls the banners
- Ned goes through the mountains and fingers (roughly 26-31 days about 470-570 miles)
- Ned than takes a fishing boat to Sisterton (roughly 15 days about 590-650 miles)
- Ned takes a boat to White Harbor (roughly 4 days about 420 miles)
- Ned rides or takes boat upriver to Winterfell (roughly 10 days 630 miles) (He leaves Ashara in White Harbor. Most likely being hidden in the Wolfs Den)
- Ned waits for his banner men to arrive at least 41 days (It is at this time Ned probably made a trip back to White Harbor to spend time with Ashara while he waits for his banner men. They do the tango a few times and she becomes pregnant with Jon.)
- Ned and Co march south to the crossing to meet Jon Arryn (roughly 83 days about 16650 miles)
- Ned Marches to Riverrun (about 24 days 470 miles)
- Ned rides to Stoney Sept (Battle of the Bells) to save Robert (about 8 days roughly 280 miles)
- Ned marches back to Riverrun to Marry Cat (about 10-14 days roughly 280 miles)
- Battle of the Trident 130 days later
- Dany is conceived prior to the sack of Kings Landing
-Sack of KL about 15 days later
- Jon is born (within a month of Dany's conception)

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34 minutes ago, Bloodraven’s Spider said:

 

Timeline Recap:

281: Ned meets Ashara at the Tourney at Harrenhal
282- Abduction of Lyanna and deaths of Rickard and Brandon
282-283- Roberts Rebellion
283- Robb Stark born at Riverrun
284- Tower of Joy

 

283: Jon Arryn calls the banners
- Ned goes through the mountains and fingers (roughly 26-31 days about 470-570 miles)
- Ned than takes a fishing boat to Sisterton (roughly 15 days about 590-650 miles)
- Ned takes a boat to White Harbor (roughly 4 days about 420 miles)
- Ned rides or takes boat upriver to Winterfell (roughly 10 days 630 miles) (He leaves Ashara in White Harbor. Most likely being hidden in the Wolfs Den)
- Ned waits for his banner men to arrive at least 41 days (It is at this time Ned probably made a trip back to White Harbor to spend time with Ashara while he waits for his banner men. They do the tango a few times and she becomes pregnant with Jon.)
- Ned and Co march south to the crossing to meet Jon Arryn (roughly 83 days about 16650 miles)
- Ned Marches to Riverrun (about 24 days 470 miles)
- Ned rides to Stoney Sept (Battle of the Bells) to save Robert (about 8 days roughly 280 miles)
- Ned marches back to Riverrun to Marry Cat (about 10-14 days roughly 280 miles)
- Battle of the Trident 130 days later
- Dany is conceived prior to the sack of Kings Landing
-Sack of KL about 15 days later
- Jon is born (within a month of Dany's conception)

Jon’s mother is Lyanna

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On the parentage of Jon Snow:
Benioff and Weiss later said that during that meeting you asked them who they think Jon Snow’s mother was, which is one of the earliest — and seemingly one of the central — mysteries in A Song of Ice and Fire.
GRRM: I did ask that at one point, just to see how closely they’d read the text.

Did they get it right?

GRRM: They answered correctly. 

 

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15 hours ago, Crona said:

Jon’s mother is Lyanna

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On the parentage of Jon Snow:
Benioff and Weiss later said that during that meeting you asked them who they think Jon Snow’s mother was, which is one of the earliest — and seemingly one of the central — mysteries in A Song of Ice and Fire.
GRRM: I did ask that at one point, just to see how closely they’d read the text.

Did they get it right?

GRRM: They answered correctly. 

 

He also said Jon died and that was the end of it when he met his fate at the wall... We will get the answer when the books come. 

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1 hour ago, Bloodraven’s Spider said:

He also said Jon died and that was the end of it when he met his fate at the wall... We will get the answer when the books come. 

No, he didn't, actually. When asked about why he killed off Jon in an interview for Entertainment Weekly, George replied, "oh, you think he's dead, do you? Well, I suppose..." That hardly seems like a definative statement about Jon's physical state of being.

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23 hours ago, Bloodraven’s Spider said:

 

Timeline Recap:

281: Ned meets Ashara at the Tourney at Harrenhal
282- Abduction of Lyanna and deaths of Rickard and Brandon
282-283- Roberts Rebellion
283- Robb Stark born at Riverrun
284- Tower of Joy

 

283: Jon Arryn calls the banners
- Ned goes through the mountains and fingers (roughly 26-31 days about 470-570 miles)
- Ned than takes a fishing boat to Sisterton (roughly 15 days about 590-650 miles)
- Ned takes a boat to White Harbor (roughly 4 days about 420 miles)
- Ned rides or takes boat upriver to Winterfell (roughly 10 days 630 miles) (He leaves Ashara in White Harbor. Most likely being hidden in the Wolfs Den)
- Ned waits for his banner men to arrive at least 41 days (It is at this time Ned probably made a trip back to White Harbor to spend time with Ashara while he waits for his banner men. They do the tango a few times and she becomes pregnant with Jon.)
- Ned and Co march south to the crossing to meet Jon Arryn (roughly 83 days about 16650 miles)
- Ned Marches to Riverrun (about 24 days 470 miles)
- Ned rides to Stoney Sept (Battle of the Bells) to save Robert (about 8 days roughly 280 miles)
- Ned marches back to Riverrun to Marry Cat (about 10-14 days roughly 280 miles)
- Battle of the Trident 130 days later
- Dany is conceived prior to the sack of Kings Landing
-Sack of KL about 15 days later
- Jon is born (within a month of Dany's conception)

 

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Just now, Eliscat said:

Ned than takes a fishing boat to Sisterton (roughly 15 days about 590-650 miles)

I think he just said Lord Stark in the Sistertons account of what happened. May have been any Stark. The tale was always strange to me. Why all the sneaking? With Jon A.’s protection  and consent, and lord Stark moving through their own lands unescorted is just wtf? Maybe Robert B was king at this time. After the bromance ended in KL. A storm was raging when lord Stark crossed the bay? Something like “a night like this one.” I’m probably incorrect. 

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29 minutes ago, Eliscat said:

I think he just said Lord Stark in the Sistertons account of what happened. May have been any Stark. The tale was always strange to me. Why all the sneaking? With Jon A.’s protection  and consent, and lord Stark moving through their own lands unescorted is just wtf? Maybe Robert B was king at this time. After the bromance ended in KL. A storm was raging when lord Stark crossed the bay? Something like “a night like this one.” I’m probably incorrect. 

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On 1/9/2021 at 6:14 PM, Eliscat said:

I’m going with Robert or Tyrion as father and the mother Lyanna or Dane

Actually his father is Rhaegar Frey, it’s such a shame that both father and son died and Jon will never know he was a Frey.

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2 hours ago, Crona said:

Actually his father is Rhaegar Frey, it’s such a shame that both father and son died and Jon will never know he was a Frey.

Gasp! A Frey oh my! What if Rickard Stark was away and his son Brandon was acting Lord Brandon of winterfell and someone ran off with Lyanna?

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20 minutes ago, Eliscat said:

Gasp! A Frey oh my! What if Rickard Stark was away and his son Brandon was acting Lord Brandon of winterfell and someone ran off with Lyanna?

When Roose was younger he seemed really like about women who looked like Lyanna

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She was a tall, willowy creature, very healthy-looking. Long legs and small firm breasts, like two ripe plums. Pretty, in a common sort of way

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31 minutes ago, Loose Bolt said:

When Roose was younger he seemed really like about women who looked like Lyanna

When she wore a dress in place of a hauberk, Lady Maege's eldest daughter was quite pretty; tall and willowy, with a shy smile that made her long face light up. 
 

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