Alyn Oakenfist Posted January 9, 2021 Author Share Posted January 9, 2021 5 minutes ago, Bloodraven’s Spider said: I don’t have a timeline in regards to when Varys snuck Aegon away because Aegon was born at the Tower of Joy, son of Rhaegar and Lyanna... Okay... care to elaborate? I mean it's an interesting theory, but is there any proof? cause the standard R+L=J has plenty of proof Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodraven’s Spider Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 6 hours ago, Alyn Oakenfist said: Okay... care to elaborate? I mean it's an interesting theory, but is there any proof? cause the standard R+L=J has plenty of proof Timeline Recap:281: Ned meets Ashara at the Tourney at Harrenhal282- Abduction of Lyanna and deaths of Rickard and Brandon282-283- Roberts Rebellion283- Robb Stark born at Riverrun284- Tower of Joy 283: Jon Arryn calls the banners- Ned goes through the mountains and fingers (roughly 26-31 days about 470-570 miles)- Ned than takes a fishing boat to Sisterton (roughly 15 days about 590-650 miles)- Ned takes a boat to White Harbor (roughly 4 days about 420 miles)- Ned rides or takes boat upriver to Winterfell (roughly 10 days 630 miles) (He leaves Ashara in White Harbor. Most likely being hidden in the Wolfs Den)- Ned waits for his banner men to arrive at least 41 days (It is at this time Ned probably made a trip back to White Harbor to spend time with Ashara while he waits for his banner men. They do the tango a few times and she becomes pregnant with Jon.)- Ned and Co march south to the crossing to meet Jon Arryn (roughly 83 days about 16650 miles)- Ned Marches to Riverrun (about 24 days 470 miles)- Ned rides to Stoney Sept (Battle of the Bells) to save Robert (about 8 days roughly 280 miles)- Ned marches back to Riverrun to Marry Cat (about 10-14 days roughly 280 miles)- Battle of the Trident 130 days later- Dany is conceived prior to the sack of Kings Landing-Sack of KL about 15 days later- Jon is born (within a month of Dany's conception) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crona Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 34 minutes ago, Bloodraven’s Spider said: Timeline Recap:281: Ned meets Ashara at the Tourney at Harrenhal282- Abduction of Lyanna and deaths of Rickard and Brandon282-283- Roberts Rebellion283- Robb Stark born at Riverrun284- Tower of Joy 283: Jon Arryn calls the banners- Ned goes through the mountains and fingers (roughly 26-31 days about 470-570 miles)- Ned than takes a fishing boat to Sisterton (roughly 15 days about 590-650 miles)- Ned takes a boat to White Harbor (roughly 4 days about 420 miles)- Ned rides or takes boat upriver to Winterfell (roughly 10 days 630 miles) (He leaves Ashara in White Harbor. Most likely being hidden in the Wolfs Den)- Ned waits for his banner men to arrive at least 41 days (It is at this time Ned probably made a trip back to White Harbor to spend time with Ashara while he waits for his banner men. They do the tango a few times and she becomes pregnant with Jon.)- Ned and Co march south to the crossing to meet Jon Arryn (roughly 83 days about 16650 miles)- Ned Marches to Riverrun (about 24 days 470 miles)- Ned rides to Stoney Sept (Battle of the Bells) to save Robert (about 8 days roughly 280 miles)- Ned marches back to Riverrun to Marry Cat (about 10-14 days roughly 280 miles)- Battle of the Trident 130 days later- Dany is conceived prior to the sack of Kings Landing-Sack of KL about 15 days later- Jon is born (within a month of Dany's conception) Jon’s mother is Lyanna Spoiler https://www.rollingstone.com/tv/tv-features/george-r-r-martin-outtakes-from-the-rolling-stone-interview-233720/ Spoiler On the parentage of Jon Snow: Benioff and Weiss later said that during that meeting you asked them who they think Jon Snow’s mother was, which is one of the earliest — and seemingly one of the central — mysteries in A Song of Ice and Fire. GRRM: I did ask that at one point, just to see how closely they’d read the text. Did they get it right? GRRM: They answered correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fool Stands On Giant’s Toe Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 2 hours ago, Crona said: Jon’s mother is Lyanna Is there a statement of what their answer was? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fool Stands On Giant’s Toe Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 I’m going with Robert or Tyrion as father and the mother Lyanna or Dane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wondering Wolf Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Eliscat said: I’m going with Robert or Tyrion as father and the mother Lyanna or Dane Yeah, Robert Arryn and Lyanna Mormont would be my guesses, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broken one Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 13 hours ago, Eliscat said: Is there a statement of what their answer was? their answer is only in their tv series, the interview is from april 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodraven’s Spider Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 15 hours ago, Crona said: Jon’s mother is Lyanna Hide contents https://www.rollingstone.com/tv/tv-features/george-r-r-martin-outtakes-from-the-rolling-stone-interview-233720/ Hide contents On the parentage of Jon Snow: Benioff and Weiss later said that during that meeting you asked them who they think Jon Snow’s mother was, which is one of the earliest — and seemingly one of the central — mysteries in A Song of Ice and Fire. GRRM: I did ask that at one point, just to see how closely they’d read the text. Did they get it right? GRRM: They answered correctly. He also said Jon died and that was the end of it when he met his fate at the wall... We will get the answer when the books come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Stark Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Bloodraven’s Spider said: He also said Jon died and that was the end of it when he met his fate at the wall... We will get the answer when the books come. No, he didn't, actually. When asked about why he killed off Jon in an interview for Entertainment Weekly, George replied, "oh, you think he's dead, do you? Well, I suppose..." That hardly seems like a definative statement about Jon's physical state of being. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fool Stands On Giant’s Toe Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Nathan Stark said: , "oh, you think he's dead, do you? Well, I suppose..." Makes me think of the Arya chapter with the bladder of fake blood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fool Stands On Giant’s Toe Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 23 hours ago, Bloodraven’s Spider said: Timeline Recap:281: Ned meets Ashara at the Tourney at Harrenhal282- Abduction of Lyanna and deaths of Rickard and Brandon282-283- Roberts Rebellion283- Robb Stark born at Riverrun284- Tower of Joy 283: Jon Arryn calls the banners- Ned goes through the mountains and fingers (roughly 26-31 days about 470-570 miles)- Ned than takes a fishing boat to Sisterton (roughly 15 days about 590-650 miles)- Ned takes a boat to White Harbor (roughly 4 days about 420 miles)- Ned rides or takes boat upriver to Winterfell (roughly 10 days 630 miles) (He leaves Ashara in White Harbor. Most likely being hidden in the Wolfs Den)- Ned waits for his banner men to arrive at least 41 days (It is at this time Ned probably made a trip back to White Harbor to spend time with Ashara while he waits for his banner men. They do the tango a few times and she becomes pregnant with Jon.)- Ned and Co march south to the crossing to meet Jon Arryn (roughly 83 days about 16650 miles)- Ned Marches to Riverrun (about 24 days 470 miles)- Ned rides to Stoney Sept (Battle of the Bells) to save Robert (about 8 days roughly 280 miles)- Ned marches back to Riverrun to Marry Cat (about 10-14 days roughly 280 miles)- Battle of the Trident 130 days later- Dany is conceived prior to the sack of Kings Landing-Sack of KL about 15 days later- Jon is born (within a month of Dany's conception) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fool Stands On Giant’s Toe Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 Just now, Eliscat said: Ned than takes a fishing boat to Sisterton (roughly 15 days about 590-650 miles) I think he just said Lord Stark in the Sistertons account of what happened. May have been any Stark. The tale was always strange to me. Why all the sneaking? With Jon A.’s protection and consent, and lord Stark moving through their own lands unescorted is just wtf? Maybe Robert B was king at this time. After the bromance ended in KL. A storm was raging when lord Stark crossed the bay? Something like “a night like this one.” I’m probably incorrect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodraven’s Spider Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 29 minutes ago, Eliscat said: I think he just said Lord Stark in the Sistertons account of what happened. May have been any Stark. The tale was always strange to me. Why all the sneaking? With Jon A.’s protection and consent, and lord Stark moving through their own lands unescorted is just wtf? Maybe Robert B was king at this time. After the bromance ended in KL. A storm was raging when lord Stark crossed the bay? Something like “a night like this one.” I’m probably incorrect. You need help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fool Stands On Giant’s Toe Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 11 minutes ago, Bloodraven’s Spider said: You need help? Sigh. I do. My interpretation differs so much from the majority of posts. I’d like to understand every view point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crona Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 On 1/9/2021 at 6:14 PM, Eliscat said: I’m going with Robert or Tyrion as father and the mother Lyanna or Dane Actually his father is Rhaegar Frey, it’s such a shame that both father and son died and Jon will never know he was a Frey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fool Stands On Giant’s Toe Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 2 hours ago, Crona said: Actually his father is Rhaegar Frey, it’s such a shame that both father and son died and Jon will never know he was a Frey. Gasp! A Frey oh my! What if Rickard Stark was away and his son Brandon was acting Lord Brandon of winterfell and someone ran off with Lyanna? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loose Bolt Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 20 minutes ago, Eliscat said: Gasp! A Frey oh my! What if Rickard Stark was away and his son Brandon was acting Lord Brandon of winterfell and someone ran off with Lyanna? When Roose was younger he seemed really like about women who looked like Lyanna Quote She was a tall, willowy creature, very healthy-looking. Long legs and small firm breasts, like two ripe plums. Pretty, in a common sort of way A Dance with Dragons - Reek III Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fool Stands On Giant’s Toe Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 31 minutes ago, Loose Bolt said: When Roose was younger he seemed really like about women who looked like Lyanna When she wore a dress in place of a hauberk, Lady Maege's eldest daughter was quite pretty; tall and willowy, with a shy smile that made her long face light up. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodraven’s Spider Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 22 hours ago, Eliscat said: Sigh. I do. My interpretation differs so much from the majority of posts. I’d like to understand every view point. What would you like to know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muffin King Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 I hope it's never confirmed whether or not Aegon is the real deal, would be a good thing to ponder on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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