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9 hours ago, Muffin King said:

The Realm will gather in the place the song of Ice and Fire began, Harrenhal, to hold a Great Council and decide on a new King. Jon will be the obvious choice, but will be manipulated by Bloodraven into giving up his crown and throwing his support to Bran, who is crowned King of the Seven Kingdoms. Jon then goes North to work on bringing the free folk into the realm, as well as ensuring the Others do not threaten Westeros again.

And I think you just hit the nail on the head on why Bran as King is a terrible idea. The only way he's becoming King is through mind control, and what says happy or bittersweet ending, like the whole of Westeros being ruled by a mind controlling entity which can put any dissent down with a roll of his eyes.

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On 1/8/2021 at 7:24 AM, Nevets said:

The North - Jon is not dead, but will be out of commission for a while.  HIs supporters will take over after the attempted mutiny.  Stannis will win Winterfell with a false flag operation with the Karstark troops.  The Boltons aren't aware that they have been discovered.  Davos will be our eyes at Hardhome, and the will head north to the Land of Always Winter.  He and Rickon will not get south of the Wall before the end of TWOW.  The Others will attack by the middle of TWOW.

For the entirety of TWoW, you don't seem to predict anything for Jon to do, at least anything important enough to be mentioned. Anyone not familiar with ASOIAF reading these predictions would think that Stannis is the main POV character in the north whereas Jon is just a side character who survives simply because he is not ready to die yet.

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14 minutes ago, Mithras said:

For the entirety of TWoW, you don't seem to predict anything for Jon to do, at least anything important enough to be mentioned. Anyone not familiar with ASOIAF reading these predictions would think that Stannis is the main POV character in the north whereas Jon is just a side character who survives simply because he is not ready to die yet.

I mean Jon really won't have that much to do. His plot with Dany and the fall of the Wall will happen at the end of TWOW, so until then all he has left is defeating the Boltons, or helping Stannis defeat them and setting the North to rights. His moment to shine will be the War for the Dawn

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TWOW: 

Daenerys and Drogon will return to Vaes Dothrak and impress the Dosh Khaleen.  The women will pledge themselves and proclaim her the Khaleesi of all the khalasars.  Some among the khals will refuse.  War will break out among the Dothraki people.  Most of TWOW will involve this war for the leadership of the Dothraki people.  Daenerys will win and become the leader of all the khals.  Slavery will reduced as soon as the khalasars are united under one khaleesi.  Khaleesi, Drogon, and the Dothraki will be in Meereen by the end of the book.

Bran's attraction to Meera will grow and it could turn ugly.  Jojen is gone.  He was the paste.  All his companions will die and Bran will remain in that cave until the new Coldhands can carry him out.  Jon will be the new Coldhands.  Jon Coldhands and Bran will use the wights to take Winterfell from the Boltons.  

The Battle of Fire will rage on for a long time.  The pale mare will run her course and both sides in the conflict will feel the suffering of extreme diarrhea.  Daario will be killed by the Yunkish.  The dragons will get bigger because there is plenty of food.  Gridlock will keep both armies from getting an advantage.  Victarion will die per the vision of the corpse on the prow of the ship.  Barristan will retreat behind the walls and supplies will dwindle inside the city.  Tyrion and his company will board ships for Westeros.  Jorah will remain behind to wait for Daenerys.  

The Battle of Ice ended in defeat for Stannis.  The Pink letter told it true and more details will come.  The wall will be in a state of panic after the wildlings leave to attack Ramsay.  Bowen Marsh will send out ravens and ask for help.  Jon will succumb to his knife wounds but his spirit will find haven in Ghost.  His body will die but the White walkers will be able to animate it.  He won't be a mindless wight because his spirit is safe inside his direwolf.  The two will be inseparable.  

Bran and Jon-Ghost will be back in Winterfell.  Bran will connect with the weirwood and browse his family's history.  He will know what the White Walkers want.  There is a relationship between the Starks and the White Walkers.  I believe some of them are turned Stark bastards.  Arya will survive until ADOS.  Jon's mind will fuse with Ghost until his body finally dies.  Jon will be fully a direwolf by the end of the book.  

Daenerys will be hailed as Azor Ahai by the red priest and priestesses.  The slaves will be free in Meereen.  She will go back and correct the problems in Astapor and Yunkai.  The masters will be dead as a result of the final battle for freedom.  Daenerys will be informed about her nephew and she will decide whether to go or not.  

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1 hour ago, Mithras said:

Anyone not familiar with ASOIAF reading these predictions would think that Stannis is the main POV character in the north whereas Jon is just a side character who survives simply because he is not ready to die yet

U mean total noob. Sry. GEN X chat lingo. Newbie or ignoramus 

The rest is so spot on humorous 

:laugh:

:rofl:

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1 hour ago, Unit A2 said:

TWOW: 

Daenerys and Drogon will return to Vaes Dothrak and impress the Dosh Khaleen.  The women will pledge themselves and proclaim her the Khaleesi of all the khalasars.  Some among the khals will refuse.  War will break out among the Dothraki people.  Most of TWOW will involve this war for the leadership of the Dothraki people.  Daenerys will win and become the leader of all the khals.  Slavery will reduced as soon as the khalasars are united under one khaleesi.  Khaleesi, Drogon, and the Dothraki will be in Meereen by the end of the book.

Bran's attraction to Meera will grow and it could turn ugly.  Jojen is gone.  He was the paste.  All his companions will die and Bran will remain in that cave until the new Coldhands can carry him out.  Jon will be the new Coldhands.  Jon Coldhands and Bran will use the wights to take Winterfell from the Boltons.  

The Battle of Fire will rage on for a long time.  The pale mare will run her course and both sides in the conflict will feel the suffering of extreme diarrhea.  Daario will be killed by the Yunkish.  The dragons will get bigger because there is plenty of food.  Gridlock will keep both armies from getting an advantage.  Victarion will die per the vision of the corpse on the prow of the ship.  Barristan will retreat behind the walls and supplies will dwindle inside the city.  Tyrion and his company will board ships for Westeros.  Jorah will remain behind to wait for Daenerys.  

The Battle of Ice ended in defeat for Stannis.  The Pink letter told it true and more details will come.  The wall will be in a state of panic after the wildlings leave to attack Ramsay.  Bowen Marsh will send out ravens and ask for help.  Jon will succumb to his knife wounds but his spirit will find haven in Ghost.  His body will die but the White walkers will be able to animate it.  He won't be a mindless wight because his spirit is safe inside his direwolf.  The two will be inseparable.  

Bran and Jon-Ghost will be back in Winterfell.  Bran will connect with the weirwood and browse his family's history.  He will know what the White Walkers want.  There is a relationship between the Starks and the White Walkers.  I believe some of them are turned Stark bastards.  Arya will survive until ADOS.  Jon's mind will fuse with Ghost until his body finally dies.  Jon will be fully a direwolf by the end of the book.  

Daenerys will be hailed as Azor Ahai by the red priest and priestesses.  The slaves will be free in Meereen.  She will go back and correct the problems in Astapor and Yunkai.  The masters will be dead as a result of the final battle for freedom.  Daenerys will be informed about her nephew and she will decide whether to go or not.  

@Alyn Oakenfistone more to the list.

Head Canon is acceptable

Fan Fic bad 

Wishful thinking is just pitiable. For both your messiah and irrationally biased ly hated character. So sad 

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6 minutes ago, TheLastWolf said:

@Alyn Oakenfistone more to the list.

Head Canon is acceptable

Fan Fic bad

Wishful thinking is just pitiable. For both your messiah and irrationally biased ly hated character. So sad

Hey, it's his opinion. If that's what he thinks leave him be, the thread is about unsubstantiated opinions. He isn't about that's what's going to happen, it's what he thinks/hopes will happen. Also just as a note, the "so sad" part sounds a bit like the traitor-in-chief.

Just saying man

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1 minute ago, Alyn Oakenfist said:

Hey, it's his opinion. If that's what he thinks leave him be, the thread is about unsubstantiated opinions

Wishful thinking... 

OK, I'll let it go

2 minutes ago, Alyn Oakenfist said:

He isn't about that's what's going to happen, it's what he thinks/hopes will happen

Wants to happen, wishful thinking definition. FTFY 

3 minutes ago, Alyn Oakenfist said:

. Also just as a note, the "so sad" part sounds a bit like the traitor-in-chief.

Lol. Ok

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3 hours ago, Mithras said:

For the entirety of TWoW, you don't seem to predict anything for Jon to do, at least anything important enough to be mentioned. Anyone not familiar with ASOIAF reading these predictions would think that Stannis is the main POV character in the north whereas Jon is just a side character who survives simply because he is not ready to die yet.

Jon will be leading the fight against the Others, once they show up and become a threat.  Before that, I expect he will be preparing as best as possible.  I try not to get too specific In my predictions, since for most characters, there are many directions their stories can go.

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5 hours ago, Alyn Oakenfist said:

And I think you just hit the nail on the head on why Bran as King is a terrible idea. The only way he's becoming King is through mind control, and what says happy or bittersweet ending, like the whole of Westeros being ruled by a mind controlling entity which can put any dissent down with a roll of his eyes.

Westeros needs someone knowledgeable who can rebuild it, Bran would not be a terrible option. If Bloodraven uses magic to control some of the Lords of the Realm to not oppose him so they can focus on rebuilding Westeros, is that so bad? Remember Bloodraven wasn't the type of person to want to seize power for himself, and sided with Aegon over Daemon Blackfyre for the good of the Realm.

It's not like Bran lives forever, he'll become a King who is not loved but the Realm will heal under him and the series will end with looking towards a long Summer. Jon might be his heir, who knows.

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In ADOS, Jon and Dany lead an army of ewoks into battle with the Others at Winterfell. At the climax of the fight, Sansa is dragged away by the Others to be raped, but Arya wargs into a pair of of giant eagles, in order to rescue her. Jaime is mortally wounded during the battle, and as he lies dying, confesses to Jon that he is his father.  The Others are finally defeated.  After the battle, Dany starts slaughtering the ewoks, and proclaims her intention, in the Great Hall of Winterfell, to rule the world as a tyrannical mad Queen.  Arya stabs her to death.  At the ensuing banquet, Jon is proclaimed King, but says he doesn't want it, and that the Bran 9000 has the best story.  Sansa apologises to Tyrion for turning him down on their wedding night, and begs him to give her a second chance;  generously, he agrees to do so.

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5 minutes ago, SeanF said:

In ADOS, Jon and Dany lead an army of ewoks into battle with the Others at Winterfell. At the climax of the fight, Sansa is dragged away by the Others to be raped, but Arya wargs into a pair of of giant eagles, in order to rescue her. Jaime is mortally wounded during the battle, and as he lies dying, confesses to Jon that he is his father.  The Others are finally defeated.  After the battle, Dany starts slaughtering the ewoks, and proclaims her intention, in the Great Hall of Winterfell, to rule the world as a tyrannical mad Queen.  Arya stabs her to death.  At the ensuing banquet, Jon is proclaimed King, but says he doesn't want it, and that the Bran 9000 has the best story.  Sansa apologises to Tyrion for turning him down on their wedding night, and begs him to give her a second chance;  generously, he agrees to do so.

If you'd posted that, say, maybe 2015 or 16, the end of the show might have looked a lot like that. 

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23 minutes ago, Muffin King said:

Westeros needs someone knowledgeable who can rebuild it, Bran would not be a terrible option. If Bloodraven uses magic to control some of the Lords of the Realm to not oppose him so they can focus on rebuilding Westeros, is that so bad? Remember Bloodraven wasn't the type of person to want to seize power for himself, and sided with Aegon over Daemon Blackfyre for the good of the Realm.

It's not like Bran lives forever, he'll become a King who is not loved but the Realm will heal under him and the series will end with looking towards a long Summer. Jon might be his heir, who knows.

It would be bad, because the point the story seems to head, and that makes the most sense is that Westeros heals, learns and embraces some small forms of democracy (through some kind of Magna Carta). Not that the only way to heal the world is a ruthless mind controlling tyranny who doesn't care for wishes of the realm through a Great Council.

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1 minute ago, Alyn Oakenfist said:

They would have turned you down because your story made too much sense

There was a notorious fanfic, now removed, which depicted Jon as an SS camp commandant, Dany as his girlfriend, the Senior Womens' Overseer, and Sansa and Margaery as their sex slaves.  

I do wonder if the two D's wrote it.

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1 minute ago, SeanF said:

There was a notorious fanfic, now removed, which depicted Jon as an SS camp commandant, Dany as his girlfriend, the Senior Womens' Overseer, and Sansa and Margaery as their sex slaves.  

Excuse me, what the ever loving fuck?!?!?!

Are we sure the CIA didn't develop hallucinogens stronger than LSD?

2 minutes ago, SeanF said:

I do wonder if the two D's wrote it.

Given the confederacy TV show they wanted to do, I think it's safe to say that they did.

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8 minutes ago, Alyn Oakenfist said:

 

Given the confederacy TV show they wanted to do, I think it's safe to say that they did.

An alternative history in which the Confederacy and slavery survived into the modern era could be interesting (like The Man in the High Castle, or Fatherland)  - but it would need far better writers than D & D.

I imagine they would go for false balance.  Yes, there were would be bad, nasty, slave owners.  And, there would be the Underground Railroad, who would be portrayed as their opposite, dangerous extremists. In the middle would be the good, sympathetic slave owners, with happy slaves. 

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35 minutes ago, SeanF said:

An alternative history in which the Confederacy and slavery survived into the modern era could be interesting (like The Man in the High Castle)  - but it would need far better writers than D & D.

I imagine they would go for false balance.  Yes, there were would be bad, nasty, slave owners.  And, there would be the Underground Railroad, who would be portrayed as their opposite, dangerous extremists. In the middle would be the good, sympathetic slave owners, with happy slaves. 

American slavery couldn't have survived the 19th century, let alone the 20th. Simply put, with the industrial revolution and the advent of capitalism it was becoming economically unsustainable. That is besides the fact that there was no way the slaves wouldn't have revolted hard. It's just a silly idea that could bring nothing good, especially with Dumbass and Debrained

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