Myshkin Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Just now, Chataya de Fleury said: I must ask, why the 17th?? That’s a strange out of the air number for them to choose... No fucking clue. Perhaps they think the 20th is too obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mlle. Zabzie Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, Chataya de Fleury said: I must ask, why the 17th?? That’s a strange out of the air number for them to choose... It’s a Sunday so they don’t need to ask for a day off? (And can sleep it off Monday, a holiday?) Actually wonder whether a certain element might even prefer the 18th given the symbolism of the holiday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, Deadlines? What Deadlines? said: If I recall was pretty big on financial deregulation, civil asset forfeiture laws, and the war on drugs. He wasn't any "bigger" on deregulation or the war on drugs than the median of the Democratic party at the time. Honestly I don't know about his record on civil asset forfeiture laws. The point in the aggregate, he was decidedly and consistently in the middle of the Dem caucus. Particularly early in his career, calling him a "conservative Democrat" - as compared to some of his colleagues - is ludicrous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadlines? What Deadlines? Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Just now, DMC said: He wasn't any "bigger" on deregulation or the war on drugs than the median of the Democratic party at the time. Honestly I don't know about his record on civil asset forfeiture laws. The point in the aggregate, he was decidedly and consistently in the middle of the Dem caucus. Particularly early in his career, calling him a "conservative Democrat" - as compared to some of his colleagues - is ludicrous. It certainly is now, given that every Democrat is to the left of every Republican and moderate Republicans died when Lincoln Chafee left office. Honestly I don't care. The Democrats could run a block of wood in the next election and I'd still vote for it twice (If I was able to vote in US elections). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kairparavel Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 I've not checked it out in person, but the National Guard is patrolling around the Capitol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Deadlines? What Deadlines? said: It certainly is now, given that every Democrat is to the left of every Republican and moderate Republicans died when Lincoln Chafee left office. I don't know what your point here is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IheartIheartTesla Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Yeah, I know trust has eroded not only in political institutions, but also law enforcement and the like. Still, I hope the FBI and other counter-terrorism orgs are taking a look at chatter on these conservative outlets and taking appropriate action. Members of Congress are one thing, but when it comes to the President (which is what Jan 17-20 would involve) I think it creates a new level of threat and the response will be far more serious than last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myshkin Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Also it should be pointed out that the FBI and others were very probably pushing for stronger security measures on the 6th, but were ignored by spineless republicans who didn’t want the optics of a heavy police presence in response to a Trump rally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IheartIheartTesla Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 I would have great fun anonymously tipping the FBI to all the craziness on conservative Twitter, Reddit, Parler and what have you. You know they have to chase down all leads, and some of these commentators will crumple like a cheap pinata at the first sign of pressure from law enforcement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry of the Lawn Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Simon Steele said: Ha. Back when I worked at Blockbuster in the early 00s, a movie called "The Fluffer" came out. That's where I learned it. I still love a Fluffernutter sandwich on white bread AND I WILL NOT BE SHAMED!!! ETA: FUCK ALL Y'ALL!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Pelosi' Letter of how they will proceed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadlines? What Deadlines? Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 29 minutes ago, DMC said: I don't know what your point here is. That the political spectrum has shifted and the parties have become more balkanized in to "left" and "right"? I thought that was clear. On Civil asset forfeiture: https://www.patheos.com/blogs/dispatches/2019/06/25/how-biden-is-responsible-for-the-appalling-civil-asset-forfeiture-laws/ 3 minutes ago, Zorral said: Pelosi' Letter of how they will proceed. This could have been eight words, "Don't you dare fuck with me on this." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 That NBC report is so informative. Thanks so much for the mention and the link. The last paragraph says what so many of us have been saying for at least 3 decades. Quote "The challenge for FBI and DOJ is to assign a permanent priority to domestic white supremacist terror groups and treat them as seriously as they treat foreign terrorism," she said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry of the Lawn Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 4 minutes ago, Deadlines? What Deadlines? said: That the political spectrum has shifted and the parties have become more balkanized in to "left" and "right"? I thought that was clear. On Civil asset forfeiture: https://www.patheos.com/blogs/dispatches/2019/06/25/how-biden-is-responsible-for-the-appalling-civil-asset-forfeiture-laws/ This could have been eight words, "Don't you dare fuck with me on this." Not to be a downer, but cannot overstate how disappointing it is to read shit like this that necessarily starts out with all the god bullshit. I get it, I really do, but doesn't make it any better. I get that that's the fucking job, and that who ever is performing that role and function is going to be doing things I personally find to be distasteful. So let this not be a personal condemnation of the Speaker, but a general lament about the shit expected of our leaders. It's gross Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadlines? What Deadlines? Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 4 minutes ago, Chataya de Fleury said: She does it better this way, though. I have learned so much from watching Speaker Pelosi. My way has a snap to it. In my heart, it's there in the subtext. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 This is also somethin that needs to be changed right this minute, this business of domestic (white) terrorism not being something the FBI is empowered to study. The rethugs have blocked this sort of thing repeatedly in order one has to believe to protect the NRA among other groups, and individuals. Quote The FBI is also under scrutiny. Its top investigative priority is terrorism, foreign and domestic. Had this been an al Qaeda plot to storm the Capitol, some experts said, it is likely that the FBI would have arrested the participants before they left their home airports on the way to Washington. One difference, however, is that there is no domestic terrorism statute, which gives the FBI fewer avenues to legally monitor suspects, including their postings on the dark web, said NBC News contributor Frank Figliuzzi, a former assistant director of the FBI. Outside a criminal investigation of a specific person or group, Figliuzzi said Saturday, "the FBI is not permitted to look and monitor the very same things that you and I can look at on Twitter and Parler." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 6 minutes ago, Deadlines? What Deadlines? said: That the political spectrum has shifted and the parties have become more balkanized in to "left" and "right"? I thought that was clear. Oh. Um, yes. Still, to use your Chafee standard, Biden was still a Senator for one session after he left office in 2006. In the that session (110th), here are the list of Senators that were more "conservative" than Biden based on DW-NOMINATE, from more "liberal" to "conservative:" Byrd, Feingold, Cantwell, Conrad, Klobuchar, Reid, Feinstein, Dorgan, Bingaman, Kohl, Tim Johnson, Salazar, Tester, Baucus, Lieberman, Landrieu, Pryor, Bill Nelson, Carper, Webb, Lincoln, Bayh, McCaskill, Ben Nelson. Now, a whole hell of a lot of those seats have been replaced by Republicans, but frankly the fact Biden was more "liberal" than the majority leader is all you need to know that referring to Biden as a "conservative" Democrat is not a valid assertion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myshkin Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 So it seems Parler can’t find anyone who wants to host them, and also they’ve been dropped by the law firm that was representing them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gertrude Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 4 minutes ago, Myshkin said: So it seems Parler can’t find anyone who wants to host them, and also they’ve been dropped by the law firm that was representing them. But surely this is a clear First Amendment violation and SOMEONE will want to take up their righteous cause and win this for THE PEOPLE! *crickets* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvinus85 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Chataya de Fleury said: I must ask, why the 17th?? That’s a strange out of the air number for them to choose... Weekend warriors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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