Maithanet #281 Posted Wednesday at 05:40 PM I'm starting to think that it is possible that McConnell really does want Trump removed and barred from office, because he sees Trump being a weight on Senate Republicans in 2022 and 2024 that cannot be tolerated. I somehow really doubt that he will actually vote to convict Trump unless he has the votes in the Senate to remove. The idea of the vote going like 55-45 with McConnell coming up short just doesn't sound like him. 1 Ser Scot A Ellison reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fragile Bird #282 Posted Wednesday at 05:40 PM Jordan is a scumbag of amazing grossness. 3 Deadlines? What Deadlines?, Mindwalker and Ser Scot A Ellison reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanteGabriel #283 Posted Wednesday at 05:42 PM 1 minute ago, Maithanet said: I'm starting to think that it is possible that McConnell really does want Trump removed and barred from office, because he sees Trump being a weight on Senate Republicans in 2022 and 2024 that cannot be tolerated. I somehow really doubt that he will actually vote to convict Trump unless he has the votes in the Senate to remove. The idea of the vote going like 55-45 with McConnell coming up short just doesn't sound like him. I mean, Trump is directly responsible for him becoming Minority Leader. Apparently they haven't even spoken in weeks. Fuck them both, though. 3 Centrist Simon Steele, Ser Scot A Ellison and Mindwalker reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fez #284 Posted Wednesday at 05:45 PM 3 minutes ago, Maithanet said: I'm starting to think that it is possible that McConnell really does want Trump removed and barred from office, because he sees Trump being a weight on Senate Republicans in 2022 and 2024 that cannot be tolerated. I somehow really doubt that he will actually vote to convict Trump unless he has the votes in the Senate to remove. The idea of the vote going like 55-45 with McConnell coming up short just doesn't sound like him. Oh for sure. It's either going to be a conviction or just the Dems + maybe Romney/Sasse/Murkwoski. I imagine part of the reason no announcement has been made yet is that McConnell is still seeing if he can get firm commitments from 18 Republicans (assuming this is before Warnock/Ossoff are seated) to convict. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kairparavel #285 Posted Wednesday at 05:49 PM 6 minutes ago, Soylent Brown said: I'm not sure the deployment of so many of the National Guard is a great look, really. Isn't it a bit like someone wearing a big, bulky nappy because they're afraid that the giant festering boil on their arse might erupt at any moment, rather than lancing it and getting on with things with an unspoiled trouserline? We're so far beyond at this point. Whatever happens with Trump will only further ignite his supporters and the people who just want to eradicate Democrats/liberals/the left etc from the face of the earth. I will say, extra 'fortification' of DC looks like neglect of state capitals, like nearby Annapolis* in Maryland and Richmond in Virginia. *Though I can't really imagine insurrection via yacht. 2 Mindwalker and Deadlines? What Deadlines? reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fez #286 Posted Wednesday at 05:51 PM 1 minute ago, kairparavel said: *Though I can't really imagine insurrection via yacht. I dunno. Don't you remember all the Trump boat parades last summer? Over-privileged white people are in their natural element out on the water. 3 Xray the Enforcer, Prince of the North and Deadlines? What Deadlines? reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toth #287 Posted Wednesday at 05:57 PM (edited) Well, for all those who are also following the debate I strongly recommend playing this in another tab whenever one of these traitorous Republicans speaks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-E6ljLSOkbY Edited Wednesday at 05:58 PM by Toth 1 Mindwalker reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leofric #288 Posted Wednesday at 05:58 PM Here's how I want it to play out, cribbing from The Ten Commandments. Pelosi: Let the name of Donald Trump be stricken from every book and tablet, stricken from all pylons and obelisks, stricken from every monument of America. Let the name of Donald Trump be unheard and unspoken, erased from the memory of men for all time. McConnell: So let it be written, so let it be done. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DMC #289 Posted Wednesday at 06:01 PM 13 minutes ago, Fez said: Oh for sure. It's either going to be a conviction or just the Dems + maybe Romney/Sasse/Murkwoski. I think Toomey is a possibility (pretty much solely because he's a lame duck) but yeah. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Myshkin #290 Posted Wednesday at 06:02 PM 8 minutes ago, kairparavel said: I will say, extra 'fortification' of DC looks like neglect of state capitals, like nearby Annapolis* in Maryland and Richmond in Virginia. This was my thought. Again, it feels to me like violence at state capitals is more likely. Are all the National Guard troops being sent to DC gonna leave some state capitals undermanned? California is about as blue as it gets, but we still have more republicans than almost any other state, and a lot of them live fairly close to Sacramento. I hope our National Guard is out in force. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaxom 1974 #291 Posted Wednesday at 06:03 PM Republicans cannot read a country. They all need to go. 1 Jace, Basilissa reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fez #292 Posted Wednesday at 06:07 PM 3 minutes ago, Myshkin said: This was my thought. Again, it feels to me like violence at state capitals is more likely. Are all the National Guard troops being sent to DC gonna leave some state capitals undermanned? California is about as blue as it gets, but we still have more republicans than almost any other state, and a lot of them live fairly close to Sacramento. I hope our National Guard is out in force. The California National Guard has over 23,000 service members. I haven't heard of any in DC yet (just east coast states so far), though I wouldn't be surprised if a unit or two end up here for the inauguration itself. There should be more than enough in the state to protect Sacramento, so long as Newsom activates them as needed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mindwalker #293 Posted Wednesday at 06:10 PM (edited) AOC's narration of what happened (see @Zorral 's post) is really harrowing. And then she goes on to rip'em a new one. The cabinet members who resigned, for starters. When I grow up, I want to be ilke her. Or at least marry someone like her. *** Edited Wednesday at 06:14 PM by Mindwalker Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zorral #294 Posted Wednesday at 06:13 PM https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/01/capitol-riot-male-rage.html This too speaks to AOC, Pressley's, Pelosi's experiences. More will likely be revealed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mindwalker #295 Posted Wednesday at 06:15 PM (edited) https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/trump-impeachment-house-vote-2021-01-13/ CBS News reported, “A person close to Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell tells CBS News that the leader supports impeaching Mr. Trump but will not publicly discuss his views until the House formally sends the article of impeachment to the Senate for a trial.” My guess is they know something even worse than what we already know, the things the FBI alluded to yesterday. (Not that what we know shouldn't be already more than enough.) Edited Wednesday at 06:20 PM by Mindwalker Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ran #296 Posted Wednesday at 06:19 PM 2 minutes ago, Mindwalker said: https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/trump-impeachment-house-vote-2021-01-13/ CBS News reported, “A person close to Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell tells CBS News that the leader supports impeaching Mr. Trump but will not publicly discuss his views until the House formally sends the article of impeachment to the Senate for a trial.” And yet... Confirmed by McConnell's press secretary, who RTed it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mindwalker #297 Posted Wednesday at 06:20 PM Fuck him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Morpheus #298 Posted Wednesday at 06:23 PM Can’t Matt Gaetz simply get sick and die? 1 Jaxom 1974 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaxom 1974 #299 Posted Wednesday at 06:24 PM When you want to say Gym Jordan is the one you want to punch in the face the most, Matt Gaetz gets up to speak... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Myshkin #300 Posted Wednesday at 06:27 PM 2 minutes ago, Morpheus said: Can’t Matt Gaetz simply get sick and die? He is a Florida man, so he’s more likely to die by alligator. After which, that alligator will be appointed to fill his seat. 1 Ormond reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
