Bowen 747 Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 I would consider releasing Ser Aliser from the watch and making him Lord of Storm's End. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilac & Gooseberries Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 Bearing in mind that after the Targaryen restoration Jon will be the king and even if he manages to remain alive at the end of the series I would think that is safe to assume that he will stay at the Wall. Black cells will do too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damsel in Distress Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 7 hours ago, Bowen 747 said: I would consider releasing Ser Aliser from the watch and making him Lord of Storm's End. Daenerys should give Aliser that option. The Baratheons would have been merciless if they had caught Willem Darry and the Targaryen children on Dragonstone long ago. She should not show any leniency to the Baratheons. I would exile the surviving Baratheons and give SE to Thorne or some other loyal supporter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daeron the Daring Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 8 hours ago, Bowen 747 said: I would consider releasing Ser Aliser from the watch and making him Lord of Storm's End. House Thorne is a landed house from the Crownlands, and Ser Alliser is already over fifty years, I doubt he would be able to make any heirs by the time this ends and he survives. And he's also not the only men at the watch who is there for fighting on the Targaryen side. What actually makes me curious is that how will he react when/if Jon't true identity will be exposed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
U. B. Cool Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 Dany could do that. Aegon could as well. But give him Storm's End? I think not. The storm lands is a powerful incentive and gift to somebody who brings more to the table. Thorne is a good and loyal man but his house does not bring enough men and resources to the Targaryen cause. The kids should give him a large holding of fertile lands taken from the Baratheons and give him a share of gold taken from the Lannisters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay21 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Ser Alester could go all Greatjon on Jon (if Jon is somehow legitimate) when he finds out that he's Rhaegar's heir. It would be an amusing turn of events. I don't think Jon would do him favours though or return him from the wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muffin King Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Why Ser Aliser? House Thorne are from the Crownlands There are a multitude of houses from Stormlands that would support a Targaryen restoration, give Storms End to one of them, maybe a Connigton or Fell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rondo Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 I don't agree on pardoning every political prisoner. It sets a bad policy for the future. Lack of consistency leads to injustice. Thorne is a special case. He would get a pardon from me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nevets Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 What's so special about Aliser Thorne that he warrants release from his vows? He hasn't done any great heroic deeds, nor is he from a hugely prominent family. Plus, it sets a bad precedent. Nights Watch vows should mean something, especially since taking them means that those who sent you there know they won't be seeing your ugly face again. Edric Storm is a perfectly good choice for the position. He is Robert Baratheon's acknowledged bastard son, and is a known quantity in the Stormlands. If that doesn't work, pick an existing Lord (Evenstar of Tarth, perhaps?). I can see no advantage to choosing Thorne, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julia H. Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 It might make sense that Dany, for example, would want to compensate Targaryen-loyalists who were sent to the Wall simply for being Targaryen-loyalists. I don't think Thorne has done anything meriting a special reward, but compensation might be another thing - provided Dany did not think these loyalists had actually committed treason by not running away from the Wall over the years to find and serve the exiled royal children. Now, there is the question if a royal pardon can make one's vows null and void - but it is also a question if the NW would still exist at that point. Anyway, a black brother does not necessarily have to serve the realm on the Wall. So perhaps Thorne could be made the royal master-at-arms, so he could continue doing a wonderful job training the little Targs of the future in the art of weapons. He'd have no more reason to complain about the pedigree of his students, and that should make him happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexis-something-Rose Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Alliser Thorne deserves high rewards for his dislike of Jon and his general asshatness. That's really what this is about. Should give Storm's End to Bowen Marsh instead, at least he tried to kill Jon. Alliser's bark is worse than his bite and Bowen can be called the Stormy Pomegranate. Storm's End has fallen to Aegon. So I'm thinking he gets first dibs on who he wants to give it to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loose Bolt Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 I suspect that Ser Aliser will die very soon. So he will not survive long enough to see possible Targ restoration. Or either angry wildlings or others will kill him long b4 any Targ will sit on Iron Throne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLastWolf Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 3 hours ago, Alexis-something-Rose said: Alliser Thorne deserves high rewards for his dislike of Jon and his general asshatness. That's really what this is about. 3 hours ago, Alexis-something-Rose said: Should give Storm's End to Bowen Marsh instead, at least he tried to kill Jon. Alliser's bark is worse than his bite and Bowen can be called the Stormy Pomegranate Beautiful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowen 747 Posted February 1, 2021 Author Share Posted February 1, 2021 On 1/17/2021 at 6:01 AM, Daeron the Daring said: House Thorne is a landed house from the Crownlands, and Ser Alliser is already over fifty years, I doubt he would be able to make any heirs by the time this ends and he survives. And he's also not the only men at the watch who is there for fighting on the Targaryen side. What actually makes me curious is that how will he react when/if Jon't true identity will be exposed. You mean after he finds out that Snowball's father is the wildling, Mance Rayder. It doesn't matter. Snowball is a wight by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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