DMC Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 1 minute ago, GrimTuesday said: He just lost the radical train enthusiasts. Sheldon Cooper is not a radical. His mother had him tested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ran Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Dan Drezner's "Toddler-in-Chief" series has now hit its 2,600th post. About a month ago, he doubted he could hit 2,500 by the inauguration... and was around 2300 tweets or so. The pace has been utterly breathtaking: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fragile Bird Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Lovely memorial ceremony in respect of the 400,000 deaths. Nice to see they used a Canadian’s song, Leonard Cohen’s Hallelujah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varysblackfyre321 Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 22 minutes ago, DMC said: Who knows but I would definitely trade preservation of the filibuster for convicting Trump in a second. The filibuster ain't going anywhere anyway. It’s a nice thought he would do this. But he would destroy the likelyhood of his party getting more control in the mid terms. And the presidency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindwalker Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 9 minutes ago, Fragile Bird said: Lovely memorial ceremony in respect of the 400,000 deaths. Nice to see they used a Canadian’s song, Leonard Cohen’s Hallelujah. Leonard was one of the greats. And he's trending on twitter right now. One of my favorite verions of Hallelujah: https://t.co/9MiKX34A7C?amp=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimTuesday Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, Mindwalker said: Leonard was one of the greats. Wouldn't expect him to say anything different, but Mitt Romney is such a rat fuck. I can't wait until people stop pretending otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindwalker Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Btw., nobody ever seems to listen to the lyrics of that song... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Anti-Targ Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Mindwalker said: Leonard was one of the greats. The thing is, the Dems started it with objections to Bush Jr's certification, both times. Cruz and Hawley turned it up to 11, but that bit of the damned machine was turned on by pissed off but impotent Dems who had as much justification for objecting as Hawley and Cruz did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fragile Bird Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Just now, Mindwalker said: Btw., nobody ever seems to listen to the lyrics of that song... There are many, many verses and people sing many different versions, because, guess what, they know the core of the song is about adultery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myshkin Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 11 minutes ago, Fragile Bird said: Lovely memorial ceremony in respect of the 400,000 deaths. Nice to see they used a Canadian’s song, Leonard Cohen’s Hallelujah. Leonard Cohen, like Alex Trebek and the members of Rush, has slipped the surly bonds of Canada to become a full fledged red-blooded American! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindwalker Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 IIRC, the Dem's complaints were about voter suppression, not conspiracies, fraud etc. And their Dem collegues certified anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimTuesday Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, Chataya de Fleury said: My second ex (the arms dealer) was also pretty much a radical train enthusiast. I'm guessing there might be some overlap with gun nuts and fringe people, based on my sample size of one, so I'm just gonna say that I'm glad Joe took the plane and not the train. I like trains..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 12 minutes ago, Varysblackfyre321 said: It’s a nice thought he would do this. But he would destroy the likelyhood of his party getting more control in the mid terms. And the presidency. I don't know about all that but yeah I highly doubt McConnell is actually offering this (if he's even in a position to guarantee 17 GOP votes to convict). If only because he's well aware he'd be trading for something that isn't gonna happen anyway. 2 minutes ago, The Anti-Targ said: The thing is, the Dems started it with objections to Bush Jr's certification, both times. It is ridiculously out of context to say "the Dems started it." Most people didn't even know about the 2004 objection at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fury Resurrected Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 8 minutes ago, Mindwalker said: Btw., nobody ever seems to listen to the lyrics of that song... Yeah, I don’t know that a song about sex and sacrilege is very appropriate for this kind of thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varysblackfyre321 Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, DMC said: I don't know about all that but yeah I highly doubt McConnell is actually offering this (if he's even in a position to guarantee 17 GOP votes to convict). If only because he's well aware he'd be trading for something that isn't gonna happen anyway. Trump is still incredibly popular with Republicans. If he tells his supporters to not vote in the mid terms many will and I think enough to where the party can’t take back the senate. Curious on the likelihood of some the gop senators who’d vote to convict switching over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 10 minutes ago, Fury Resurrected said: Yeah, I don’t know that a song about sex and sacrilege is very appropriate for this kind of thing Was it appropriate when Simon Donovan was shot and Bartlet ordered Shareef's assassination?!? ....I mean, ok I guess so kind of. 3 minutes ago, Varysblackfyre321 said: If he tells his supporters to not vote in the mid terms many will and I think enough to where the party can’t take back the senate. Trump's reaction and influence on the midterms is far more likely to be backing the primarying of any and all that oppose him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Anti-Targ Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 1 minute ago, DMC said: It is ridiculously out of context to say "the Dems started it." Most people didn't even know about the 2004 objection at the time. It doesn't matter what people knew at the time, it's in the Senate record and it legitimised the actions taken in the House and Senate this month. Does the context really matter when a tool that should not be used to overturn an election was first used by people in the party which now seeks to impose consequences on Republicans who used the same tool? "Our reason was justified, yours wasn't" is a weak-arsed political argument that only works on those who have already picked their side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, The Anti-Targ said: Does the context really matter when a tool that should not be used to overturn an election was first used by people in the party which now seeks to impose consequences on Republicans who used the same tool? Yes, the context absolutely matters. The Dems who objected in 2000 were justified. And as for 2004, it was a single Senator and it was shot down by every other Senator. And, oh yeah, a president didn't make a speech at the ellipse and then send his mob to the Capitol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myshkin Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, The Anti-Targ said: It doesn't matter what people knew at the time, it's in the Senate record and it legitimised the actions taken in the House and Senate this month. Does the context really matter when a tool that should not be used to overturn an election was first used by people in the party which now seeks to impose consequences on Republicans who used the same tool? "Our reason was justified, yours wasn't" is a weak-arsed political argument that only works on those who have already picked their side. The use of a tool does not legitimize the misuse of a tool. Your argument uses the same logic as the cultists arguing that the BLM protests are the same as the Capitol riot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fragile Bird Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 39 minutes ago, Fury Resurrected said: Yeah, I don’t know that a song about sex and sacrilege is very appropriate for this kind of thing Leonard Cohen was devoutly religious and many of his songs were about the weaknesses and frailties of mind and body. The song has incredible power and so many undertones of sadness and grief I do think it was totally appropriate. But, each to their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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