DMC Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 28 minutes ago, Tywin et al. said: Fez got it just fine. .....Yikes. Um, yeah I got it. Cracked that code! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Anti-Targ Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 Did Trump play some 4D chess? Not really, obviously, but apparently in a 1998 People Magazine interview he said if he ran for Pres he'd run as a Republican because they are the dumbest voters, the believe anything Fox news tells them and he can lie about anything and they'll swallow it, his numbers would be great. Everything he said back then is true. They are the dumbest voters on average, most of them do believe whatever Fox news tells them (though now it's OAN / Newsmax), he lied several times a day and he was believed every time by most of them, and his numbers, among Republicans, were great. It's just that he pretty much became the Republican he despised in that interview in the intervening 16 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ran Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 17 minutes ago, The Anti-Targ said: Did Trump play some 4D chess? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalbear Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 23 minutes ago, The Anti-Targ said: Did Trump play some 4D chess? Not really, obviously, but apparently in a 1998 People Magazine interview he said if he ran for Pres he'd run as a Republican because they are the dumbest voters, the believe anything Fox news tells them and he can lie about anything and they'll swallow it, his numbers would be great. Everything he said back then is true. They are the dumbest voters on average, most of them do believe whatever Fox news tells them (though now it's OAN / Newsmax), he lied several times a day and he was believed every time by most of them, and his numbers, among Republicans, were great. It's just that he pretty much became the Republican he despised in that interview in the intervening 16 years. This has been debunked repeatedly. There was no article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Anti-Targ Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 Lol, I thought I got that info from a reliable source who does their research. But I guess in their heady glee of Trump getting gone they weren't so diligent this time around, so I made the same mistake in not fact checking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadlines? What Deadlines? Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 29 minutes ago, The Anti-Targ said: Lol, I thought I got that info from a reliable source who does their research. But I guess in their heady glee of Trump getting gone they weren't so diligent this time around, so I made the same mistake in not fact checking. I read that and I had to look up when Fox news was founded. That network was only 2 years old in 1998. Yeah they leaned conservative but they were somewhat more respectable back then. Then Bush got elected and they found out how profitable insanity can be. Trump never plays 4D chess; he just has a remarkable ability to fail upward and get others to pay the cost. Like I said before, his plan to create his own party is how he's going to get paid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Anti-Targ Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 At the risk of falling for more fake news, an article I read today claims the Proud Boys, or at least some of them, have turned their back on Trump because they now realise he never had their back. I thought before the election that if Trump lost he would lose his base, and maybe if Trump had played the post-election period differently, ie. not fomented rebellion and then thrown the rebels under the bus, he might have retained his rabid base. But now that the manipulators at the heads of those groups can no longer deny what he is, and they are smarter than the rank and file of those groups, the attachment to the person of Trump as the way to perpetuate and grow their hateful ideologies is disappearing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 7 minutes ago, Deadlines? What Deadlines? said: Like I said before, his plan to create his own party is how he's going to get paid. Trump already got paid: Quote President Donald Trump and allied groups have aggressively sought to raise funds after the election, using legal challenges to Joe Biden’s victory in their pitches. Trump’s campaign and several allied groups have said they raised $207 million between Election Day and Nov. 23. The number is certainly higher by now, but hard numbers won’t be disclosed to the Federal Election Commission until Jan. 31. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadlines? What Deadlines? Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 24 minutes ago, The Anti-Targ said: At the risk of falling for more fake news, an article I read today claims the Proud Boys, or at least some of them, have turned their back on Trump because they now realise he never had their back. I thought before the election that if Trump lost he would lose his base, and maybe if Trump had played the post-election period differently, ie. not fomented rebellion and then thrown the rebels under the bus, he might have retained his rabid base. But now that the manipulators at the heads of those groups can no longer deny what he is, and they are smarter than the rank and file of those groups, the attachment to the person of Trump as the way to perpetuate and grow their hateful ideologies is disappearing. Given todays reaction among some of the Qanon supporters, this wouldn't surprise me. Also, Eric and Don Jr. were crying in public. That beta cuck shit won't stand, man! 22 minutes ago, DMC said: Trump already got paid: Tsk. tsk. And to think Rudy can't shake a fee out of him. If more is better then too much is enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mormont Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Deadlines? What Deadlines? said: Trump never plays 4D chess Isn’t all chess 4D? Though I’m very willing to believe that Trump never plays chess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hereward Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 7 hours ago, DMC said: Hold up! You mean the citizens of Paris didn't end the Revolutionary War? Well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relic Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 4 hours ago, The Anti-Targ said: Did Trump play some 4D chess? Not really, obviously, but apparently in a 1998 People Magazine interview he said if he ran for Pres he'd run as a Republican because they are the dumbest voters, the believe anything Fox news tells them and he can lie about anything and they'll swallow it, his numbers would be great. Everything he said back then is true. They are the dumbest voters on average, most of them do believe whatever Fox news tells them (though now it's OAN / Newsmax), he lied several times a day and he was believed every time by most of them, and his numbers, among Republicans, were great. It's just that he pretty much became the Republican he despised in that interview in the intervening 16 years. THat quote is not real. Edit - opps should have finished the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kairparavel Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 7 hours ago, The Anti-Targ said: Surely only for those who are / were inside that surreal echo chamber. Yeah, no. Pizzagate almost ruined a business and could have gotten people killed. And they were out in full force Tuesday night. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pizzagate_conspiracy_theory https://dcist.com/story/21/01/19/dc-comet-ping-pong-protests-pizzagate-inauguration/ Plus their assertions about Covid-19 put more than themselves at risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spockydog Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 Is nobody at least a little concerned that Biden appears to have been sworn in on the Necronomicon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry of the Lawn Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 The Proud Boys, and all the other violent, hateful Trump supporters might stop caring about Trump. But they're out there now and they were allowed to express their bullshit without any pushback from the GOP or the right-wing sphere at large because everyone was so afraid of being anti-Trump. They were validated. They aren't going away and the next figure(s) they rally around probably won't be lazy incompetent buffoons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spockydog Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 18 minutes ago, larrytheimp said: The Proud Boys, and all the other violent, hateful Trump supporters might stop caring about Trump. But they're out there now and they were allowed to express their bullshit without any pushback from the GOP or the right-wing sphere at large because everyone was so afraid of being anti-Trump. They were validated. They aren't going away and the next figure(s) they rally around probably won't be lazy incompetent buffoons. That's part of the reason why traitors like these need to be held to account. Newly-elected GOP members deny giving "reconnaissance" tours before Capitol attack. Quote Three newly-elected Republican House members have denied giving "reconnaissance" tours to rally participants on Jan. 5, the day before the terrorist insurrection against the Capitol. The lawmakers — Reps. Lauren Boebert of Colorado, Madison Cawthorn of North Carolina and Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia — all told Salon that they had not escorted anyone that day outside of the course of normal legislative business. All three have come under fire for their public embrace of the Jan. 6 rally and its cause — baselessly and aggressively challenging President Joe Biden's election victory over outgoing President Donald Trump. Boebert has faced the most scrutiny, after tweeting "1776" on the morning of the attack and offering vocal support from the House floor for her "constituents" gathered at the rally. She was also photographed at the rally itself, posing for pictures while Kylie Kremer of Trump booster group Women for America First addressed the crowd. During the siege, the Colorado fringe conservative, who has expressed admiration for the QAnon conspiracy theory, tweeted that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi had been relocated. It was later revealed that insurrectionists planned to kidnap and assassinate elected officials, and several appeared equipped to do so. These people need to be investigated. The investigation needs to be highly visible. And these people need to go to jail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briantw Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 4 hours ago, mormont said: Isn’t all chess 4D? Though I’m very willing to believe that Trump never plays chess. I assume that if Trump did play chess it'd go something like this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centrist Simon Steele Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Spockydog said: Is nobody at least a little concerned that Biden appears to have been sworn in on the Necronomicon? He wrote it, so I guess it's cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centrist Simon Steele Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 42 minutes ago, Spockydog said: That's part of the reason why traitors like these need to be held to account. Newly-elected GOP members deny giving "reconnaissance" tours before Capitol attack. These people need to be investigated. The investigation needs to be highly visible. And these people need to go to jail. I remember heading back to my hometown in sw colorado at the end of summer. It was the first I heard of Boebert (my brother and SiL were disgusted by her). This is when I saw a white pride parade going down the main street of my hometown, and my brother said that happens every weekend. Boebert signs were prominent. She's a real problem and even though she was really a nobody six months ago, we're already seeing her protected the same way so many criminal politicians before her have been. If anything happens to her, I'd be surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toth Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Spockydog said: That's part of the reason why traitors like these need to be held to account. Newly-elected GOP members deny giving "reconnaissance" tours before Capitol attack. These people need to be investigated. The investigation needs to be highly visible. And these people need to go to jail. I just had to think of an incident here in Germany two months ago. At the height of all these Corona-deniers taking to the streets four members of the AfD, Germany's far right party (that just today was declared under investigation by the Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution), invited a number of hecklers into the parliament who prowled the corridors and verbally attacked confused representatives they caught in between sessions. The AfD apologized two days later, the president of the parliament still announced there will be consequences for those AfD members responsible... and as of now I don't think anything happened whatsoever. -.- But of course here this was just a minor annoyance that caused members of the parliament to call them out as "uncivilized" buffoons. That thing in the USA was literally treason. Given how likely it is that some of these nutjobs will be charged with conspiracy to sedition, the Republicans that are part of the conspiracy need to be expelled asap. If only to spare us listening to their insanity like during the impeachment debate. The fact that the democrats didn't seem to be confident to call them out as what they are and how that invalidates their defense during the debate was very troubling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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