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US Politics: Winning is Easy, Governing is Harder


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Or that everyone though Labour was going to get massacred in 2017, so Labour got votes from people who voted for them in spite of their misgivings about Corbyn. They were then worried Corbyn might actually win and left in their droves.

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1 hour ago, Liffguard said:

That's a fair point, and I agree about Johnson and Trump tapping into a similar appeal, despite their substantive differences (between them as individuals and between the Tory and Republican parties).

One clear overlap is they both did a great job at targeting rural white voters who were fearful of immigrants despite most of them never having to interact with them.

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14 minutes ago, Tywin et al. said:

One clear overlap is they both did a great job at targeting rural white voters who were fearful of immigrants despite most of them never having to interact with them.

Not really. Johnson won the white working class vote from Labour in the post-industrial north, where there are large immigrant communities. Rural seats are moving from the Conservatives towards Labour or the Liberals, though slowly. 
 

In fact, the whitest English seats are rural, wealthy and, according to The Economist, the most socially liberal in the country.

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24 minutes ago, Hereward said:

Not really. Johnson won the white working class vote from Labour in the post-industrial north, where there are large immigrant communities. Rural seats are moving from the Conservatives towards Labour or the Liberals, though slowly. 
 

In fact, the whitest English seats are rural, wealthy and, according to The Economist, the most socially liberal in the country.

Interesting. Would it be more accurate to say white people living in non-major urban centers rather than rural? I recall reading an article a while back on the pros and cons of comparing Trump to Johnson, and one thing that stood out was the appeal to whites experiencing racial anxiety (sometimes billed as cultural anxiety) with it being particular with those who were unlikely to meet many if any immigrants in their day to day interactions.

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