polishgenius Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 Van Der Leyen is just determined not to make any friends, isn't she? Like it's not even like her point is unfounded but making out the UK approach was pure marketing rather than, you know, getting it out as fast as possible because that's what needs to happen is just snide pettyness on her part. In other news, sad to see that Captain Tom has died in hospital after catching Covid. Wbat a don though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hereward Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 Agreed on both points. And nice thread title! Edit: Actually, she’s performing a valuable public service. I don’t think the nation is really happy unless it has a German to focus its ire on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartofice Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 Also like pretty much this whole EU vaccine debacle it mostly comes down to blaming someone else https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-02-01/von-der-leyen-blames-eu-trade-chief-for-vaccine-export-gaffe Very sad about Captain Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, Heartofice said: Very sad about Captain Tom. If I got to choose the last year of my life, I'd choose something like that. Except i'd turn down the knighthood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hereward Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 Bah, I’d sacrifice an arm, preferably someone else’s, for a knighthood! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartofice Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, BigFatCoward said: If I got to choose the last year of my life, I'd choose something like that. Except i'd turn down the knighthood. Yeah, at the very least he can feel he achieved something at the end. I imagine I’ll spend the last few years watching tv and moaning.. pretty much same as now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiko Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 30 minutes ago, Hereward said: Bah, I’d sacrifice an arm, preferably someone else’s, for a knighthood! I was always wondering about that. What is it good for? I mean the knighthood, not the arm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hereward Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 What’s a gold medal, or a World Cup, or a Nobel prize good for? Humans like recognition. This human is a proud patriot and monarchist. I’d be terrified of meeting the Queen, but being knighted would make me, and my family and friends, so proud we’d burst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, kiko said: I was always wondering about that. What is it good for? I mean the knighthood, not the arm. You can get away with a significant amount of depravity before the police get involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hereward Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 1 minute ago, BigFatCoward said: You can get away with a significant amount of depravity before the police get involved. That too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartofice Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, BigFatCoward said: You can get away with a significant amount of depravity before the police get involved. Imagine what you can get away with if you were a Duke of somewhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 What a knight of the realm chooses to do in the privacy of his own private dungeon is not anyone else's concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljkeane Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 1 hour ago, polishgenius said: Van Der Leyen is just determined not to make any friends, isn't she? Like it's not even like her point is unfounded but making out the UK approach was pure marketing rather than, you know, getting it out as fast as possible because that's what needs to happen is just snide pettyness on her part. I disagree with a number of the things the EU has done to try and force Astrazenca to provide them with more vaccine doses but, to be fair to them, the less vaccine doses they get the more of their citizens will die. It is understandable. The petty comments from Macron, Von der Leyen and the other French minister Beaune just seem designed to deflect blame from themselves and could actually cause deaths if they significantly undermine confidence in one of the available vaccines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 It’s like if you get an emergency overnight passport renewal nobody is refusing you entry at the border because of doubts over the thoroughness and effectiveness of getting your passport approved. The process is either done or it isn’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoannaL Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 9 minutes ago, ljkeane said: I disagree with a number of the things the EU has done to try and force Astrazenca to provide them with more vaccine doses but, to be fair to them, the less vaccine doses they get the more of their citizens will die. It is understandable. The petty comments from Macron, Von der Leyen and the other French minister Beaune just seem designed to deflect blame from themselves and could actually cause deaths if they significantly undermine confidence in one of the available vaccines. No, actually the whole argument with waiting for the EMA out of safety reasons is old here in Germany it was made already in autumn and has nothing to do with last week AZ row. In the end a lot of people will die if we do not get enough (75 % or so) to take the vaccine. Germany is very vaccine critical and to have the most safe authorization even if it means less speed, is seen here as the only way to go. In a country with a less vaccine critical population you can come to other conclusions. I agree though that Macron said that the AZ vaccine doesnt work in people over 65 and this is really not true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljkeane Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 Yeah, I'd distinguish what the German health authorities have said from the others I listed. They did come out and refute the false stories about efficacy in the German media. I'd still think ideally it'd be better to have waited on using the vaccine on over 65s in a more low key way, because some people are idiots and were bound to misinterpret what they were saying as we've seen, but I suppose it couldn't really be helped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiko Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Hereward said: What’s a gold medal, or a World Cup, or a Nobel prize good for? Humans like recognition. This human is a proud patriot and monarchist. I’d be terrified of meeting the Queen, but being knighted would make me, and my family and friends, so proud we’d burst. I guess it's a bit of a cultural difference. Gold medal and Nobel price I get. I was just wondering about this "enoblement" thing as something that is considered a good thing. But if you see it as a recognition of sorts, I can completely understand the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pebble thats Stubby Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 6 minutes ago, kiko said: I guess it's a bit of a cultural difference. Gold medal and Nobel price I get. I was just wondering about this "enoblement" thing as something that is considered a good thing. But if you see it as a recognition of sorts, I can completely understand the point. Its rather like the Medal of Freedom in the US, but with more glamour and the prospect of getting your own crememative plate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hereward Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 A crememative plate sounds like something you get after a devastating fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pebble thats Stubby Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 7 minutes ago, Hereward said: A crememative plate sounds like something you get after a devastating fire. well after knighthood it is your duty to go out and slay any dragons that threaten the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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