DMC Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 4 minutes ago, A Horse Named Stranger said: So there were practical reasons for the delay. Not really. The trial wouldn't have interrupted Warnock/Ossoff getting sworn in at all. And getting Yellen and Blinken confirmed could've waited a week, it's not the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindwalker Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 And Biden won't govern better now that the QOP has had time to repress the truth, make others feel emboldened to act similarly, and consolidate the former one's power. I just saw Raskin's personal remarks on Jan 6, and I'm not crying, you're crying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varysblackfyre321 Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 1 hour ago, IheartIheartTesla said: Georgia is opening its own investigation into Trump's actions. And since it is controlled by Republicans, I think it makes more sense politically to have them tackle it. I think its ok for the impeachment to focus on the events of Jan 6 and not have it be diluted too much. Since it’s run by republicans the investigation will fizzle out into nothing as people’s attentions are just on the riot which is easier to defend from the Republican standpoint. Trump didn’t explicitly say to try to and lynch congress, he even peppered in small encouragements to go about things peacefully under the miss of his fiery language. To be clear I believe he knew damn well what the logical conclusion of his rhetoric would be. But I can and have seen people who aren’t Trump supporters being more reluctant to recognize the criminality in his actions on the 6t in comparison to his actions in regards to pence and Georgia that really should have triggered impeachment. Either he’d asked pence or the Georgia sos to commit an illegal act or he didn’t. In any case they’d have to acknowledge a Republican in a critical position of power did something egregious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lollygag Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 Trump on video wanting to impeach Obama after he left office. https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-impeachment-trial-02-09-2021/h_9822346439056f167add0d25889c3abb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindwalker Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 24 minutes ago, Lollygag said: Trump on video wanting to impeach Obama after he left office. https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-impeachment-trial-02-09-2021/h_9822346439056f167add0d25889c3abb Good. He's triggered. - Oh, that was some time ago... interesting. Wow, his atturney, ao far, is trying to psychologize any ccountability away... OMG, get to th point! Did he look at Raskin and think, 'oh cool, personal approach, I can do that'?! Does he think it's a filibuster? Does he want to babble every viewer unconscious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse Named Stranger Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 30 minutes ago, DMC said: Not really. The trial wouldn't have interrupted Warnock/Ossoff getting sworn in at all. And getting Yellen and Blinken confirmed could've waited a week, it's not the end of the world. Yeah, but thought the then majority turtle could've and probably would have delayed things a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lollygag Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 17 minutes ago, Mindwalker said: Good. He's triggered. - Oh, that was some time ago... interesting. Wow, his atturney, ao far, is trying to psychologize any ccountability away... OMG, get to th point! Did he look at Raskin and think, 'oh cool, personal approach, I can do that'?! Those are the standard right wing brainwash machine talking points complete with the yelling and non-stop motormouth rambling to cut off any higher brain function to go straight to emotional lizard brain appeals. Emotional appeals are always easier if you've already laid the ground work or play off what was already there. https://www.mediamatters.org/ Funny thing is even Dershowitz was like wtf live on Newsmax. https://www.rawstory.com/alan-dershowitz-impeachment-2650419474/ ---- Yes, the point is actually to babble everyone unconscious and just leave their talking points and emotional appeals there in place of any independent thought that might be there. ------------ More Republicans previously ok with impeaching after office who have now flipped. https://www.mediamatters.org/january-6-insurrection/fox-news-personalities-whove-flipped-post-presidency-impeachment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 6 minutes ago, A Horse Named Stranger said: Yeah, but thought the then majority turtle could've and probably would have delayed things a bit. Again, not so much. Yellen and Blinken (and others) were still confirmed - and got out of committee - under the previous session's organizing resolution. If Schumer forced a trial early, maybe they wouldn't have gotten as many GOP votes afterwards, sure, but they still woulda gotten enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimTuesday Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 In the long list of lawyers more competent and credible than Turmp's defense team may I present the cat lawyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindwalker Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 I'm lagging behind, I'm roughly 17 hours into Castor's ramblings. Will it get worse? (But I'm glad he took notes, he can only improve.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fez Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 So apparently all the nonsense from Trump's lawyers today was a bridge too far for exactly one Republican senator, Cassidy. He's the only Republican who flipped on the constitutionality vote from the first time a couple weeks ago. Collins, Murkowski, Romney, Sasse, and Toomey also voted with the Democrats; but they did the first time around as well. This 56-44 vote is presumably the upper limit on what a conviction vote will be (and I wouldn't be surprised at all if Cassidy votes to acquit as well). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse Named Stranger Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 Fun fact, the cat graduated top of his class in Yale and holds a Juris Doctor degree. Ok, it graduated the same year as Hawley, so it arguably wasn't the strongest year in the history of Yale's Law School. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindwalker Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 Yeah, it was not the former one who spouted hatred on each and every one of his rallies, no, it's this impeachment! Elitist dems! Witch hunt! UNITY! Cancel culture! Oooh, incriminating video proving 'insatiable lust for impeachment'! Would be funny if the former pres fired his lawyers, at least Castro, for speaking of 'the former president' and the elections as if they were, you know, legit. Oh, this is funny: washingtonpost Last year, Philadelphia lawyer Michael T. van der Veen filed a lawsuit against then-President Donald Trump accusing him of making “repeated claims” that mail voting is ripe with fraud “despite having no evidence in support of these claims.” This week, van der Veen is adopting a different posture as part of the team of attorneys defending Trump’s efforts to overturn the 2020 presidential election result in his Senate impeachment trial. And interesting observations: washingtonpost Almost every senatorial eye in the chamber was glued to the screens as lead House manager Jamie Raskin (D-Md.) on Tuesday played a 13-minute video depicting the events of Jan. 6 to introduce the impeachment case against former president Trump — with a few notable exceptions. While the screen showed demonstrators marching on the Capitol, Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) looked down at the pad of lined paper in his lap, where he had already begun doodling with a pencil. Behind him, Sen. Rick Scott (R-Fla.) studied papers in his lap, taking only the tiniest glimpses at the screen to his right. A few seats over, Sen. Tom Cotton (R-Ark.) also focused most of his attention on papers in front of him instead of on the images depicting the insurrection at the Capitol, and a few seats from him, Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) did the same. The senators on the floor all lived through the events of Jan. 6, and it is impossible to know why certain individuals chose to look away. The facial expressions of those who did watch were varied: Some were focused intently, others stared blankly, some frowned, and at least one Republican senator’s face appeared to redden the longer the video went on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Zorral Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 Just finished watching that video. The more often one sees these scenes, the more horrifying it appears. The more new stuff comes out to be seen, the more horrifying it is. Those senators who refused to look, one wonders if it occurred to them, with a mob this frothing and foaming and howling for blood that They would have avoided getting torn to pieces too, along with the other they were expecting and hoping would be ripped to shreds? One also can't help but think, that woman who was shot, shooting her seems to have saved a whole lot of lives, stopping the seditionistas for just bit of time, that allowed for escape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindwalker Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 Mehdi Hasan makes a good case for calling witnesses, too: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalbear Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 4 hours ago, Lany Freelove Cassandra said: Why does he keep putting his one hand on his head whenever he takes a drink of water? (sorry, I know that's a personal attack, but it's just so funny) It's because he's practicing Jewish and you are not allowed head coverings on the senate floor. So he is covering his head whenever he consumes something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 13 minutes ago, KalbearAnon said: It's because he's practicing Jewish and you are not allowed head coverings on the senate floor. While this is why he did it, there is a religious exception for head coverings in the Senate rules - particularly for men: Quote he shall not permit any person to place any object whatsoever--including hats, coats, or other personal apparel--or portion of a person on any railing, or any male to wear a hat, except that where a man's religious beliefs require that he wear a head-cover in such public places as the Senate Gallery, then such head- cover shall be permitted;\1\ and he shall not allow any person to lean forward over the railings or to place his or her hands thereon. He may not have known of the rule, or maybe he just didn't think it was appropriate for whatever reason, but I think it should be noted he could have - since he was a man. After the House changed their rules for Omar, might be best for the Senate to update that one as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 28 minutes ago, KalbearAnon said: It's because he's practicing Jewish You almost make it sound like witchcraft. Anyways, speaking on behalf of the tribe, we don't claim him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindwalker Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 Citizen Trump was not amused... https://www.comicsands.com/cyclist-flipping-trump-wins-election-2650413893.html Cyclist Who Was Fired For Flipping Off Trump's Motorcade Wins Election To Oversee His Golf Club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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