Ser Reptitious Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Tywin et al. said: I hate the idea of establishing a mandated retirement age much as I oppose the concept of term limits, but at 87 years old, fucking retire. Like a decade ago. Perhaps a rule should be instituted that no senator can run for re-election past 80? That would still allow sitting senators to be as old as 85 before having to retire (in extreme cases). That sounds perfectly reasonable to me, and it doesn't impose a hard limit where someone would have to retire in the middle of their term. If there can be a minimum age requirement to be president, why can't there be a (somewhat flexible) maximum age for senators (or MCs in general)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry of the Lawn Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 11 hours ago, DireWolfSpirit said: So Biden is trying to go with a harder line on Russia. https://news.yahoo.com/biden-administration-launch-cyber-attacks-173336952.html After years of bullying on the seas, cyber criminality and electioneering misinformation attacks from Putin. All I can say is ITS ABOUT DAMN TIME someone stood up to this scumbag. Yay Cold War 2.0! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 16 minutes ago, Ser Reptitious said: If there can be a minimum age requirement to be president, why can't there be a (somewhat flexible) maximum age for senators (or MCs in general)? ...Or presidents? Also, there's a minimum age for senators and representatives too. One thing to emphasize though, based on the (failed) term limit effort starting ~30 years ago, is that any max age measure would probably require a constitutional amendment. Which of course would mean it's not happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Ser Reptitious said: Perhaps a rule should be instituted that no senator can run for re-election past 80? That would still allow sitting senators to be as old as 85 before having to retire (in extreme cases). That sounds perfectly reasonable to me, and it doesn't impose a hard limit where someone would have to retire in the middle of their term. As was said, 49 minutes ago, DMC said: is that any max age measure would probably require a constitutional amendment. Which of course would mean it's not happening. Which is why it's not worth wasting time on. Oh the joys of living in a society with screwed up laws and many things we perceive as laws, but are really just norms and traditions of sort. In a better world, @Ser Reptitious, people would know they should just retire young when they've enjoyed so much. But instead we give power to an 87 year old that can at times barely speak coherently. America, Fuck Yeah! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Reptitious Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 Well yeah, I didn't think it had much (or any) real chance of happening. I was just musing out loud what would seem like a sensible solution to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Reptitious Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 1 hour ago, DMC said: ...Or presidents? Also possible, but at least presidents are already term-limited, so when voters elect him (and hopefully her, at some point) they already know to what maximum age that person will serve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 7 minutes ago, Ser Reptitious said: Well yeah, I didn't think it had much (or any) real chance of happening. I was just musing out loud what would seem like a sensible solution to me. Isn't that a major problem with today's politics though? Musing about obvious solutions that will otherwise never happen. Except when those musings are incredibly dangerous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 32 minutes ago, Ser Reptitious said: Also possible, but at least presidents are already term-limited, so when voters elect him (and hopefully her, at some point) they already know to what maximum age that person will serve. Well, not technically. A president could serve one term and still have a term to spare for later - or even much later - in life. Jimmy Carter could still run for president. A more realistic example, obviously, is Trump. When voters elected him in 2016 did they know he may well be president in 2028? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Reptitious Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 1 hour ago, DMC said: Well, not technically. A president could serve one term and still have a term to spare for later - or even much later - in life. Jimmy Carter could still run for president. A more realistic example, obviously, is Trump. When voters elected him in 2016 did they know he may well be president in 2028? Sure, but then the incumbency advantage, making re-election signifantly easier, is gone. And unlike senators such as Feinstein, Trump or Carter wouldn't be president that entire time. They get a grand total of eight years max, either consecutively or (implausably) non-consecutively, and that's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 One interesting aspect of the 22nd I don't think many are aware of is it does not apply to vice presidents - they have no term limits. So, theoretically, a Putin figure could camp out as Vice President and install puppets as President like he did with Medvedev. Anyway, thought I'd share this is it was a really fun read for a dork like me. If you're interested in the history and the filibuster, highly recommended - When LBJ and Hubert Humphrey Teamed Up to Break a Talking Filibuster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 5 hours ago, Ser Reptitious said: Sorry, was repeating what others had already said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry of the Lawn Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 3 hours ago, Tywin et al. said: Isn't that a major problem with today's politics though? Musing about obvious solutions that will otherwise never happen. Except when those musings are incredibly dangerous. Why is musing or talking about things that are obvious solutions a problem? edit: And why are incredibly dangerous musings the exception? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 18 minutes ago, larrytheimp said: Why is musing or talking about things that are obvious solutions a problem? edit: And why are incredibly dangerous musings the exception? If obvious solutions have no support, and raising support for said issues only makes them less likely to pass, are they still so obvious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DireWolfSpirit Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 7 hours ago, larrytheimp said: Yay Cold War 2.0! We are woefully and pitifully whining about being victims of intellectual theft, hacking, espionage and so forth against adversaries who could give 2 fucks about "the rules". Left unencountered for much longer, federal reserves, utilities, financial networks and so forth will only become more vulnerable. We should recognize such threats and not respond like victims every time we are attacked. If their is no penalty Russia and China will only increase cyber attacks. Whining about "unfair" ain't gonna get it done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jace, Extat Posted March 21, 2021 Author Share Posted March 21, 2021 America shouldn't be afraid of a second Cold War. We would win. It would also be like hitting the 'roids after an injury. Really bulk the country up in the short term. Long term of course is still a dystopian nightmare of unthinkable woe, but there aren't any solutions for that right now anyway. Hair loss and back pimples wouldn't be a bad trade to get Republicans focused on an external enemy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A True Kaniggit Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 9 minutes ago, Comrade Jace, Leftist said: America shouldn't be afraid of a second Cold War. We would win. It would also be like hitting the 'roids after an injury. Really bulk the country up in the short term. Long term of course is still a dystopian nightmare of unthinkable woe, but there aren't any solutions for that right now anyway. Hair loss and back pimples wouldn't be a bad trade to get Republicans focused on an external enemy. Who have you been speaking with? Who talked?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jace, Extat Posted March 21, 2021 Author Share Posted March 21, 2021 6 minutes ago, A True Kaniggit said: Who have you been speaking with? Who talked?! Someone always talks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindwalker Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 Isn't it about time that the FBI boss resign? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 29 minutes ago, Comrade Jace, Leftist said: Someone always talks. You were behind Illinois throwing the game then, hence destroying my bracket. If I were more crestfallen I'd accuse you and @Fragile Bird of teaming up to do such evil deeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 38 minutes ago, Mindwalker said: Isn't it about time that the FBI boss resign? Wray has over six years left on his term. I wouldn't count on him resigning anytime soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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