Garlan the Gallant Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 (edited) I am in the midst of re-reading Sword of Shadows by JV Jones. Is there a guide or does someone know off-hand the ages of the following characters: 1) Effie (8?) 2) Raif (18?), 3) Drey(20?) 4) Raina, 5) Ash (13?) 6) Angus, 7) Vaylo, 8) Mace, and 9) Bram? Not sure if this is made clear, but is a year in the books roughly equivalent to a year on Earth? Not sure if the weather patterns mean the planet is further away from its star. Lastly, it’s a little hard to tell during my re-read but does anyone know the span of time the books take place over so far? Edited April 12, 2021 by Garlan the Gallant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inkdaub Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 Effie - 10 Raif - 19 Drey - 21 Raina - 30+ Ash - 16 Angus - 40+ Vaylo - 50+ Mace - 25 Bram - ? Guesses from memory. I need a reread myself one of these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garlan the Gallant Posted April 12, 2021 Author Share Posted April 12, 2021 16 is late for certain aspects of puberty to kick in but it IS magical puberty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 13 hours ago, Garlan the Gallant said: I am in the midst of re-reading Sword of Shadows by JV Jones. Is there a guide or does someone know off-hand the ages of the following characters: 1) Effie (8?) 2) Raif (18?), 3) Drey(20?) 4) Raina, 5) Ash (13?) 6) Angus, 7) Vaylo, 8) Mace, and 9) Bram? Not sure if this is made clear, but is a year in the books roughly equivalent to a year on Earth? Not sure if the weather patterns mean the planet is further away from its star. Lastly, it’s a little hard to tell during my re-read but does anyone know the span of time the books take place over so far? I believe that the length of years is the same as on our world (that's backed up by the Book of Words predecessor trilogy as well). The books so far take place over a period of about a year, IIRC. With Book 5 nearly done, a reread might be a great idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deedles Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 Is Book 5 nearly done? Would be wonderful if so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garlan the Gallant Posted April 15, 2021 Author Share Posted April 15, 2021 4 hours ago, Deedles said: Is Book 5 nearly done? Would be wonderful if so I believe so. She fairly regularly provides updates about the book on her Patreon. Madame deVenoge 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 (edited) 15 hours ago, Deedles said: Is Book 5 nearly done? Would be wonderful if so Yup. Apparently it would have been done at the end of last year or the start of this without the pandemic and attendant problems, but it got pushed back a bit. I think she was sitting around the two-thirds-done point late last year. I know JV has also recovered the rights to the Book of Words trilogy - which leads into Sword of Shadows but is not strictly necessary to enjoy it - and wants to re-release them as ebooks and audiobooks. If Tor picked them up, that could take the sting out of waiting eleven years for Endlords (though I suspect they'll also want to see the progress on the final book as well, which JV is planning to roll straight into) and allow for a unified marketing and cover design strategy. Edited April 15, 2021 by Werthead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 JV Jones has released the cover art and a sample chapter for Sorry Jones, a stand-alone novel she's self-publishing. She wrote this book to get back in the zone after a long period spent out of the writing game, before getting into Endlords. Madame deVenoge 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garlan the Gallant Posted April 17, 2021 Author Share Posted April 17, 2021 On 4/15/2021 at 4:56 AM, Werthead said: Yup. Apparently it would have been done at the end of last year or the start of this without the pandemic and attendant problems, but it got pushed back a bit. I think she was sitting around the two-thirds-done point late last year. I know JV has also recovered the rights to the Book of Words trilogy - which leads into Sword of Shadows but is not strictly necessary to enjoy it - and wants to re-release them as ebooks and audiobooks. If Tor picked them up, that could take the sting out of waiting eleven years for Endlords (though I suspect they'll also want to see the progress on the final book as well, which JV is planning to roll straight into) and allow for a unified marketing and cover design strategy. I seemingly remember you calling the increase in quality between the Book of Words series and Sword of Shadows possibly the greatest increase in writing quality between series, or something like that. Madame deVenoge 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 11 hours ago, Garlan the Gallant said: I seemingly remember you calling the increase in quality between the Book of Words series and Sword of Shadows possibly the greatest increase in writing quality between series, or something like that. Yeah, I'd stand by that. Book of Words was solid and got better as it went along, but Sword of Shadows is probably on a par with ASoIaF. There was a huge step-up between the two series. Madame deVenoge, Iskaral Pust and Macklunkey 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derfel Cadarn Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 2 hours ago, Werthead said: Yeah, I'd stand by that. Book of Words was solid and got better as it went along, but Sword of Shadows is probably on a par with ASoIaF. There was a huge step-up between the two series. Yes. Sword of Shadows is a mix of GRRM’s North/Beyond the Wall, and a fantasy Scotland, with a lot of Scottish place nanes (Castlemilk etc). The scene in the first book in the ‘inn’ where Raif fights the Bludd clansmen is excellent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rorshach Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 If I may chime in on a slightly unrelated point ... I wrote once, in one of the never-finished-books threads that I expected Endlords before Winds of Winter / Doors of Stone. At that point JV Jones wasn't writing.. Vindication! JGP and Madame deVenoge 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garlan the Gallant Posted April 17, 2021 Author Share Posted April 17, 2021 I want to go back to this series and get first edition hardcovers. There seems to be a lot of different editions/publishers for the first book. What publisher is the true first edition? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 3 hours ago, Garlan the Gallant said: I want to go back to this series and get first edition hardcovers. There seems to be a lot of different editions/publishers for the first book. What publisher is the true first edition? For Book of Words, Warner Books in the USA and Orbit in the UK. Warners published all three books as trade and then mass-market paperbacks. Orbit published Books 1 and 2 as mass-market paperback originals and then switched to hardcover for Book 3. For Sword of Shadows, Warner Books published Book 1 in hardcover in the USA, then Tor bought the paperback rights for Book 1, then published Books 2-4 in hardcover. Orbit published all four books in hardcover (with a change in cover design between Books 1 and 2). Warners had the first edition for Book 1 and Tor for Books 3-4, but Orbit had the first edition of Book 2 (Warner Books shut down around the time Book 2 was supposed to come out and there were problems in transferring the deal to Tor, during which time Orbit just pressed on and got the book out). Jones's ISFDB page may be helpful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garlan the Gallant Posted December 31, 2021 Author Share Posted December 31, 2021 Jones has posted a large amount of preview chapters of Endlords on her Patreon over the years. I think there are four Raif chapters, two Effie chapters, one Baralis chapter, one Angus Lok chapter, one Vaylo chapter, and one other chapter. Do we have any idea what percentage the posted chapters make of the final book? I guess my question, truly, is roughly how long will Endlords be? Calibandar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calibandar Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 I dont think anyone has any answer to that and we will see once the book is listed on Amazon. Which is not the case yet but it can still come out in the second half of the year at this point. Interesting that she released that many chapters already, didnt know that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garlan the Gallant Posted January 2, 2022 Author Share Posted January 2, 2022 6 hours ago, Calibandar said: I dont think anyone has any answer to that and we will see once the book is listed on Amazon. Which is not the case yet but it can still come out in the second half of the year at this point. Interesting that she released that many chapters already, didnt know that. The chapters she has released are truly great. Calibandar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortstark Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 (edited) Jah, this might be sacrilege on this board, but Endlords is my most eagerly awaited book ... Talking about scene in first book ,the one where Raif rescues Ash with just 6 arrows is amazing. I am happy that JV seems to be back on track and an end is in sight.. As for the difference in quality between Words and Sword, it's as if there is a different Author.. Edited January 5, 2022 by shortstark Werthead 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voland Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 Wow, (vaguely) remember reading Book of Words trilogy way back when, and the first (and maybe the second) of the Sword of Shadows trilogy. Might have to do a reread if she is publishing again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fragile Bird Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 Ok, you’ve convinced me, I’ve borrowed the book from the library! Garlan the Gallant 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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