lacuna Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 8 minutes ago, Which Tyler said: I think they forgot that Sam's not had any serum He had a training montage. That's ten times better, minimum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Which Tyler Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 5 minutes ago, lacuna said: He had a training montage. That's ten times better, minimum. Yeah but a 2 tonne bench press? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lacuna Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 Just now, Which Tyler said: Yeah but a 2 tonne bench press? I'll raise you; four days of cardio, and some acrobatic jumps. Plus throwing the big frisbee around, but anyone can do that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumHam Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 31 minutes ago, Which Tyler said: I think they forgot that Sam's not had any serum Maybe the Wakandans included some magic herb in that case. Or he drank some of Walkers blood like a vampire in a deleted scene. It occurred to me trying to sleep last night that various MCU scientists spent all that time and effort trying to recreate that serum when all they had to do was irradiate some spiders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvinus85 Posted April 23, 2021 Author Share Posted April 23, 2021 You're all wrong. Sam is the Shield, and the Shield has always defied physics, ergo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhom Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 37 minutes ago, RumHam said: Maybe the Wakandans included some magic herb in that case. Or he drank some of Walkers blood like a vampire in a deleted scene. It occurred to me trying to sleep last night that various MCU scientists spent all that time and effort trying to recreate that serum when all they had to do was irradiate some spiders. If we had ever gotten a full explanation of how SpiderHolland got his powers, I'm sure that Oscorp was experimenting with recreating the super soldier syrum using spiders as a medium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhom Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 Enjoyed the ending. Kinda hated how they had to spoon feed us that Sharon was the Power Broker. Karli talking to her in a familiar way wasn't enough... we needed Bastroc to actually say "You're the Power Broker." Overall, I really did like it. Thought Sam's outfit looked good. Not sure how I feel about taking Walker on a heel turn and immediately making him likeable again, but I get it. I do wonder how much of a show like this will be carried over into MCU films and how much we should expect to stay on D+? Will we really see US Agent doing anything significant? Or will he just pop up in smaller scale projects? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvinus85 Posted April 23, 2021 Author Share Posted April 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, Rhom said: If we had ever gotten a full explanation of how SpiderHolland got his powers, I'm sure that Oscorp was experimenting with recreating the super soldier syrum using spiders as a medium. That could be the case, but I thought that the main thing about the spiders has always been the development of extremely tough webbing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Which Tyler said: I think they forgot that Sam's not had any serum I think they did a reasonable amount of that showing him fighting the supersoldiers with the shield and his thrusters and wings as a counterbalance to their strength. Also remember his signature fight in the episode was with Batroc, who's just a guy, y'know? They also indicated the serum has different effects and doesn't boost everyone up to Captain America's strength. Without the big machine helping out, I can buy that the serum has a reduced efficiency: it makes people maybe 30-50% stronger than normal, whilst Cap was like 150-200%. Non-supes can still beat them with strategy and guile and better training. Quote I do wonder how much of a show like this will be carried over into MCU films and how much we should expect to stay on D+? Will we really see US Agent doing anything significant? Or will he just pop up in smaller scale projects? Not sure if he'll pop up in a mainline film, but he could easily show up in one of the other shows coming up. Interesting that JLD said that "Things are about to get weird," which is what we've seen people hinting at with the upcoming projects. Interesting that she seems to know that as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Which Tyler Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 13 minutes ago, Werthead said: I think they did a reasonable amount of that showing him fighting the supersoldiers with the shield and his thrusters and wings as a counterbalance to their strength. Also remember his signature fight in the episode was with Batroc, who's just a guy, y'know? How does that help him bench press an armoured car? He's using his jet pack and wings to give himself a stable base; but then he's pushing it up from there with his pecs and triceps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvinus85 Posted April 23, 2021 Author Share Posted April 23, 2021 13 minutes ago, Which Tyler said: How does that help him bench press an armoured car? He's using his jet pack and wings to give himself a stable base; but then he's pushing it up from there with his pecs and triceps. He did an Ironman, with the additional boosters pushing the vehicle up. But the problem is that his suit doesn't seem to have an exoskeleton frame, like Ironman, so his body should have been crushed between the jets and the vehicle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 I think they stuck the landing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Which Tyler Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 10 minutes ago, Corvinus85 said: He did an Ironman, with the additional boosters pushing the vehicle up. But the problem is that his suit doesn't seem to have an exoskeleton frame, like Ironman, so his body should have been crushed between the jets and the vehicle. Exactly; and showing him flexing as he held it away from his body Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 I was afraid Sam was going to introduce Isaiah to old man Steve. I loved that he is being honored in the Smithsonian as well... however... isn’t it odd that they didn’t contact Isaiah about the new exhibit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhom Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 18 minutes ago, Corvinus85 said: He did an Ironman, with the additional boosters pushing the vehicle up. But the problem is that his suit doesn't seem to have an exoskeleton frame, like Ironman, so his body should have been crushed between the jets and the vehicle. I thought about the crush between boosters and armored car. I'm just going to Head Canon it into believing that the Wakandans have some sort of vibranium mesh built into the fibers of the suit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhom Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said: I was afraid Sam was going to introduce Isaiah to old man Steve. I loved that he is being honored in the Smithsonian as well... however... isn’t it odd that they didn’t contact Isaiah about the new exhibit? I had thought the same. But really, where would the connection be between Isaiah and Steve? And I know a guy here in town who made life sized bronze statues for the local veteran's tribute... that took months to get done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalbear Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 A very pretty ending that probably shouldn't have had Isaiah in it at all and ended up with a bunch of victimization porn. Sorry about taking away 30 years of your life and what we did with you and your wife and the massive medical experimentation we did - but here's a statue and apparently a news blackout so no one else hears about it! Because ya know, acknowledging what we did to the Tuskegee troops just made them feel totes fine and all water under the bridge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 6 minutes ago, Karlbear said: A very pretty ending that probably shouldn't have had Isaiah in it at all and ended up with a bunch of victimization porn. Sorry about taking away 30 years of your life and what we did with you and your wife and the massive medical experimentation we did - but here's a statue and apparently a news blackout so no one else hears about it! Because ya know, acknowledging what we did to the Tuskegee troops just made them feel totes fine and all water under the bridge Beyond montetary compensation for the evils done to him, would else could they have done? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumHam Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 6 minutes ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said: Beyond montetary compensation for the evils done to him, would else could they have done? Get some pym particles and go back and fix it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalbear Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 5 minutes ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said: Beyond montetary compensation for the evils done to him, would else could they have done? The country talking about it, potus addressing it, having it in its own museum, talking about ensuring it or something like it doesn't happen again, criminal charges for those who did it, full restoration of his rank and pension, naming things after him, having a special holiday or day of remembrance for him and the other soldiers.... Do you need more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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