Derfel Cadarn Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 A video of Welsh police “arresting” someone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 1 hour ago, Derfel Cadarn said: A video of Welsh police “arresting” someone While that looks horrific and can't be justified whatever happened before, clipping it to start at that particular point is a load of shit. Also being pedantic, Carrick was not a senior officer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derfel Cadarn Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 1 hour ago, BigFatCoward said: While that looks horrific and can't be justified whatever happened before, clipping it to start at that particular point is a load of shit. Also being pedantic, Carrick was not a senior officer. Looks like phone footage so its possible thats the point where the witness startrd filming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BigFatCoward Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 I do hope he wrote his arrest notes after he was made aware that it had been filmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltaran Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 10 minutes ago, BigFatCoward said: I do hope he wrote his arrest notes after he was made aware that it had been filmed. Are you implying that he might not be totally honest if he thinks there’s no witnesses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 38 minutes ago, Maltaran said: Are you implying that he might not be totally honest if he thinks there’s no witnesses? Under repeated attack from the subject i took the male to the floor using approved officer safety techniques, however unfortunately because of the violent and volatile nature of the subject who was non compliant throughout, as we fell to the floor he hit the side of his face on the ground causing swelling to his cheek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derfel Cadarn Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 (edited) Today’s daily Met fuck-up. Guy threatening to jump off a balcony. So naturally they tasered him and he … fell off the balcony and died. The commissioner nust have palpitations every morning when he opens the papers, dreading to learn what his cops have been up to. https://news.sky.com/story/two-met-police-officers-investigated-in-manslaughter-probe-after-man-dies-in-taser-balcony-incident-12879101 Edited May 12 by Derfel Cadarn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 (edited) 11 hours ago, Derfel Cadarn said: Today’s daily Met fuck-up. Guy threatening to jump off a balcony. So naturally they tasered him and he … fell off the balcony and died. The commissioner nust have palpitations every morning when he opens the papers, dreading to learn what his cops have been up to. https://news.sky.com/story/two-met-police-officers-investigated-in-manslaughter-probe-after-man-dies-in-taser-balcony-incident-12879101 I can think of any number of scenarios where that was the best tactical option. Until it goes wrong and all the armchair experts in the press prematurely hang you out to dry. You aren't wrong though, the boss probably has to have whisky on his cornflakes to get through the morning papers. Alternative headline 'met officers stand around with fingers up arse while man falls to his death'. Edited May 13 by BigFatCoward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dog-days Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 1 hour ago, BigFatCoward said: I can think of any number of scenarios where that was the best tactical option. Until it goes wrong and all the armchair experts in the press prematurely hang you out to dry. You aren't wrong though, the boss probably has to have whisky on his cornflakes to get through the morning papers. Alternative headline 'met officers stand around with fingers up arse while man falls to his death'. It's early and my brain isn't working. In what scenarios is it a good idea to taser someone standing on the edge of a balcony? I'm struggling to imagine a positive outcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 2 hours ago, BigFatCoward said: You aren't wrong though, the boss probably has to have whisky on his cornflakes to get through the morning papers. Reading the article, yeah, I agree it'd be best to wait for more information to be provided. Indeed, based on the text there should be bodycam as well as CCTV footage that would hopefully and eventually become publicly available (and frankly should be clarifying things already). What I'm just wondering is why anyone would put whisky on their cornflakes. Just drink the whisky and eat the cornflakes. I don't understand you people. Jace, Extat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dog-days Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 Cornflakes with whiskey sounds like a terrible waste of whiskey and cornflakes. However, around ten years ago staying on a Scottish island, I was served porridge with cream, brown sugar and whiskey. That kind of breakfast might even help a police commissioner get through his day and bugger the headlines. Jace, Extat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 (edited) 1 hour ago, dog-days said: It's early and my brain isn't working. In what scenarios is it a good idea to taser someone standing on the edge of a balcony? I'm struggling to imagine a positive outcome. They are armed so you can't get close to stop them safely, and have committed to jumping, i.e. are running towards the balcony edge. Only safe way to stop them is to taser them. Ot they are on the balcony and are armed and start to cut wrists or throat (I've watched someone cut their throat through a window, 2nd worst thing I've ever seen). You taser them and they fall of the balcony but what was the alternative? Edited May 13 by BigFatCoward dog-days and Heartofice 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltaran Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 On 5/11/2023 at 1:18 PM, Derfel Cadarn said: A video of Welsh police “arresting” someone The officer has now been suspended Prince of the North 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 Not just UK and US police, everyone is joining the party. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-65642974 that'll learn her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derfel Cadarn Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 57 minutes ago, BigFatCoward said: Not just UK and US police, everyone is joining the party. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-65642974 that'll learn her. Ffs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 9 minutes ago, Derfel Cadarn said: Ffs! can you imagine the internal conversation - 'What are my tactical options? Walk backwards very slowly, nah, fuck it, lets taser a great grandmother'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted May 19 Author Share Posted May 19 Walk around the woman come up behind her and take the knife… she’s 95… that not exactly someone who going to rush up and surprise you… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 On 5/19/2023 at 8:56 AM, BigFatCoward said: Not just UK and US police, everyone is joining the party. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-65642974 that'll learn her. She just died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltaran Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 Seems the police are leaning heavily on the difference between following and chasing here Cardiff riot: Ely crash death boys were followed by police https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-65700552 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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