Megorova Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 34 minutes ago, Jaenara Belarys said: Greyscale can't be spread through potions and poisons, it's a touch and you're infected disease. He placed in her cradle a doll that was taken from an infected child. From that doll the infection passed to Shireen's face. 36 minutes ago, Jaenara Belarys said: Gunpowder hasn't been invented in this world yet. Say rather that they killed enough of the mages that "controlled and banked the fires of the Fourteen Flames" that the spells failed. Of course it was. At Yi Ti, which is analogue of Earth's China. Or the pyromancers from the Alchemists guild invented it. "Gunpowder was invented in 9th-century China as one of the Four Great Inventions, and spread throughout most parts of Eurasia by the end of the 13th century." Events in ASOIAF are happening in analogue of what is approximately 14-15 century. So ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaenara Belarys Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 5 hours ago, Megorova said: "Gunpowder was invented in 9th-century China as one of the Four Great Inventions, and spread throughout most parts of Eurasia by the end of the 13th century." If gunpowder had been invented, I'm pretty sure it would've been used by now. And just because some stuff is kind of the same, doesn't mean all will be the same. In addition, if gunpowder had been invented in Yi Ti, wouldn't Yandel have mentioned it in TWOIAF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilac & Gooseberries Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 3 hours ago, Jaenara Belarys said: It would've been extremely severe: Exactly. Waif's step mother was most likely asked to sacrifice her daughter. Their payment is severe for a reason, to understand what it really means to kill someone. How painful and devastating is to order the death of a human being. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moiraine Sedai Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 A bump on the head is the simplest explanation. Drowning and death have not been proven. Maybe he hit his head on the rocks and lost consciousness. His brain was shaken and caused damage. Patchface is almost autistic in his symptoms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roswell Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 On 4/25/2021 at 5:02 PM, divica said: how about varys employed them to prevent the crew from bringing a valiryan bride for rhaegar? However things went wrong and the FM lost his memory and has been living as patchface since then? Quite possible. I have a different hypothesis but yours is also good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roswell Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 Why couldn't the boy have fallen into deep sleep instead of dying and then coming back to life? It is simpler to survive the storm and wash up on the beach. Exhaustion led to sleep. And was he changed at all. We don't know. Everybody who knew what he was like before the storm are dead. What if he was always this weird? What Lord Baratheon thought for clever is actually the babblings of an intellectually disabled person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roswell Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 On 4/29/2021 at 10:14 AM, Moiraine Sedai said: A bump on the head is the simplest explanation. Drowning and death have not been proven. Maybe he hit his head on the rocks and lost consciousness. His brain was shaken and caused damage. Patchface is almost autistic in his symptoms. Asperger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaenara Belarys Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 8 hours ago, Roswell said: Asperger Except we know that Patchface was smart in Old Volantis. It can't be that. It's probably just PTSD and oxygen deprivation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowen Marsh Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 My own opinion of Patchy is unlike most. He is innocent like a harmless village idiot. His eccentric manners make him suspicious to the people of the time and thus will experience prejudice. GMartin is preparing us for major guilt down the road. We saw Patchy through Mellissandre's eyes and what she thinks is scary. Fear will make her do something bad. Things started falling apart at the wall when Jon antagonized the Boltons. The breakdown of order and discipline that he started will continue after his death. Mellissandre will find a way to point her finger at Patchy and burn him. The death of an innocent could bring the wall down to punish them for what they did to Patchy (and Shireen). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
divica Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Jaenara Belarys said: Except we know that Patchface was smart in Old Volantis. It can't be that. It's probably just PTSD and oxygen deprivation. On interesting thought. If patchy has mental problems might bran or another skinchangers warg into him and kill people using him? Can it be that mel sees patchy killing people but it is someone controling him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lannister Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 Pft his tinfoil hat protected his brain. It is known. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skahaz mo Kandaq Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 On 4/25/2021 at 1:00 AM, Prince Rhaego Targaryen said: It’s not only from lack of oxygen. He died and was resurrected by magic. Patchface is a wight. Call him a water wight if you wish. It doesn’t matter. He will be easy to control. He's just emotionally and mentally damaged from his near-death experience. Wights do not live as long as he has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roswell Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 On 5/2/2021 at 6:35 PM, Jaenara Belarys said: Except we know that Patchface was smart in Old Volantis. It can't be that. It's probably just PTSD and oxygen deprivation. Elon Musk has Asperger and he's smart. However a simpler explanation is very possible. Like physical trauma causing brain injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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