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Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted June 3, 2021 Author Share Posted June 3, 2021 A true work of art: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DireWolfSpirit Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 Lions kicking the tires on Gurley. Don't know if he's got any tread left? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jace, Extat Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 19 minutes ago, DireWolfSpirit said: Lions kicking the tires on Gurley. Don't know if he's got any tread left? I drove the tires on my Honda until the wires were sticking out through the mostly-non-existent rubber. That was twenty years ago. I'd rather drive on those tires today than put Todd Gurley in my backfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PyroclasticFlow Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 Anybody need a pass rusher? One with 97 sacks since entering the league in 2012(2.5 more than Von Miller)? Surprised that none of the talking heads have thrown his name around, but after seeing the $$ his team spent on Hopkins & Watt, I can’t imagine him being a Cardinal this upcoming season. Anyone have the cap space to pull this off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briantw Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 12 hours ago, DireWolfSpirit said: Lions kicking the tires on Gurley. Don't know if he's got any tread left? They've already got Swift and Williams. Not sure why they'd even bother with Gurley. He's donezo. Crazy to think that Gurley was basically the top player in dynasty fantasy football like three or four years ago and now his career is essentially over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted June 7, 2021 Author Share Posted June 7, 2021 So Jones to Tennessee for a second and a fourth. Seems like a bargain. I wonder why the Ravens didn't offer a little bit more given the cap hit shouldn't be an issue and Jackson really needs a true number one WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DireWolfSpirit Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 Julio for a 2nd and 4th rounder? Geezus that is a steal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maithanet Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 I have always been down on trading day 1-2 draft picks for (non-QB) veteran players who are already on expensive deals. Jones is a great player, but the reason Atlanta was willing to deal him was because they were no longer sure his production would really match his salary, particularly given that he's 33 and coming off an injury. So I'm inclined to say that Atlanta got the better of the deal. That said, a second rounder isn't a crippling cost for a player of Jones caliber. If Tennessee had a strong roster and one extra weapon could theoretically push them into the realm of real contenders, then I could see the deal. For example, the Ravens could make this deal make sense. But I feel like ever since that one playoff run to the AFCCG Tennessee has had a really inflated idea of how good they are, and this is more evidence of that. Tennessee isn't one veteran WR away from contending, and that's why I don't like this deal. It's possible this makes them the favorite to win the division, but that's more dependent on Wentz being bad in Indy than Jones being good in Tennessee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briantw Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 31 minutes ago, Maithanet said: I have always been down on trading day 1-2 draft picks for (non-QB) veteran players who are already on expensive deals. Jones is a great player, but the reason Atlanta was willing to deal him was because they were no longer sure his production would really match his salary, particularly given that he's 33 and coming off an injury. So I'm inclined to say that Atlanta got the better of the deal. That said, a second rounder isn't a crippling cost for a player of Jones caliber. If Tennessee had a strong roster and one extra weapon could theoretically push them into the realm of real contenders, then I could see the deal. For example, the Ravens could make this deal make sense. But I feel like ever since that one playoff run to the AFCCG Tennessee has had a really inflated idea of how good they are, and this is more evidence of that. Tennessee isn't one veteran WR away from contending, and that's why I don't like this deal. It's possible this makes them the favorite to win the division, but that's more dependent on Wentz being bad in Indy than Jones being good in Tennessee. I do think the move makes sense from a roster construction standpoint. Tennessee really only had one WR of consequence after Davis and Smith walked in free agency and essentially went unreplaced. There's a definite need for a WR across from AJ Brown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maithanet Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 1 minute ago, briantw said: I do think the move makes sense from a roster construction standpoint. Tennessee really only had one WR of consequence after Davis and Smith walked in free agency and essentially went unreplaced. There's a definite need for a WR across from AJ Brown. Sure, no argument there. I'm not saying it's a terrible trade, just one that I don't like. My philosophy is that you win under the salary cap by having guys who match or outplay their contracts. Julio is paid like a top 5 receiver, so the best you're going to get is him matching his contract. He also carries injury concerns given his age. In contrast, a 2nd round pick, while usually not as impactful as Jones, has a very good chance of outplaying his contract, because 2nd rounders are woefully underpaid. If that 2nd rounder turns out to be a decent starter at really any position, then that's a big win for a GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbunting Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 So Carl Nassib from the LV Raiders came out yesterday. I guess it's a good thing that this wasn't huge program interrupting news, maybe it means we are a little more understanding as a culture? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted June 22, 2021 Author Share Posted June 22, 2021 1 hour ago, dbunting said: So Carl Nassib from the LV Raiders came out yesterday. I guess it's a good thing that this wasn't huge program interrupting news, maybe it means we are a little more understanding as a culture? I think the positive sign is that it was both breaking news and the general response was "about time." Hopefully more male athletes will feel comfortable coming out in the not too distant future. Many have privately with their teammates already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maithanet Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 I would like to endorse this idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l2 0 5 5 Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 Steelers adding Melvin Ingram on a one year deal. Injury prone and 32, but if healthy he's an asset on the edge. We'll need that with Dupree going to the Titans and Highsmith coming into his second year. I'm sure TJ Watt will be happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briantw Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 Bout to be a wild lead up to the season start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted July 22, 2021 Author Share Posted July 22, 2021 I was surprised to hear that the players on the "winning" team of forfeited games also don't get their paychecks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 4 hours ago, Tywin et al. said: I was surprised to hear that the players on the "winning" team of forfeited games also don't get their paychecks. What? How can that be possible? I would find that unacceptable unless there is some REALLY GOOD reason that hasn't come to mind yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 8 minutes ago, Wilbur said: What? How can that be possible? I would find that unacceptable unless there is some REALLY GOOD reason that hasn't come to mind yet. They won't receive their game checks. While I don't necessarily agree with that, it's not an entirely unreasonable position if the game isn't played. Hell, the player's union is apparently fine with it - because it's the same thing they did last year: Quote In an email to membership issued in response to Thursday’s memo from the NFL to all teams, the unions said, “We remind you that the same basic rules applied last year.” As noted by the NFLPA, if games were missed in 2020 because of a COVID outbreak, nobody would have gotten paid. “The only difference this year is the NFL’s decision to impose additional penalties on clubs which are responsible for the outbreak and the availability of proven vaccines,” the memo explains. “The protocols we jointly agreed to helped get us through a full season last year without missing game checks and are effective, when followed.” It’s not a surprise. Even though the NFLPA has not agreed to make vaccines mandatory, the NFLPA realizes (to its credit) that players should get vaccinated. That’s why the NFLPA hasn’t fought the league’s efforts to create real incentives to get vaccinated — and real disincentives for players who don’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted July 23, 2021 Author Share Posted July 23, 2021 One wrinkle I heard is that irresponsible teams may have to foot the bill for lost revenue. I don't think it's unreasonable for players to sue other teams for missed game checks if it was clearly the other team's fault the game had to be cancelled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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