Spockydog Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 At least Scottish kids won't have to do this as they will already be on holiday. Mmm, Betty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 43 minutes ago, Derfel Cadarn said: Holy fuckballs! Buckle up, we’re going North Korea and Hitler Youth! “Strong Britain, Great Nation”. Boak! https://www.thenational.scot/news/19325929.one-britain-one-nation-event-childs-school-sparks-scots-parents-anger/ HAIL OBON! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maarsen Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Spockydog said: At least Scottish kids won't have to do this as they will already be on holiday. Mmm, Betty. My daughter went to Edinburgh to do her teaching degree and told us about the kids in her placement school doing a reenactment of a battle with the English forces. She was quite amazed at the intensity of all this, being from Canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 2 hours ago, Derfel Cadarn said: Holy fuckballs! Buckle up, we’re going North Korea and Hitler Youth! “Strong Britain, Great Nation”. Boak! There's a song. I would pay good money to hear the regulars here sing this song Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartofice Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 Even the children sound bored singing it. I’m all for trying to put over a positive unifying image of Great Britain to unite the nations, but holy shit that isn’t it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiko Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 Are they also for abolishing the four national football teams in favour of an UK team? What would happen if one of the kids would turn up in one of the many different national jerseys for this event? Hard to argue that they don't show national spirit, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luzifer's right hand Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 2 hours ago, kiko said: Are they also for abolishing the four national football teams in favour of an UK team? What would happen if one of the kids would turn up in one of the many different national jerseys for this event? Hard to argue that they don't show national spirit, right? Do you want to start WW3?`That is even more holy than the Queen and tea! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ants Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 Um, what are you guys up to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hereward Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 1 hour ago, ants said: Um, what are you guys up to? Asserting the right to freedom of navigation? Anyway, it’s bollocks, the Russians did no such thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorn Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 Quote “We believe the Russians were undertaking a gunnery exercise in the Black Sea and provided the maritime community with prior warning of their activity," the British Ministry of Defense said. "No, they didn't fire at our ship, they just happened to be firing in the general vicinity while our ship was passing by." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stannis Eats No Peaches Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 Isn’t it supposed to go the other way round? We’re supposed to complain about Russian aggressive tactics while they insist they are doing routine exercises? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 It was somewhat provocative but the ship was using an internationally-recognised freedom of movement channel, which I don't think has been tested since Russia took over Crimea but also hadn't technically been revoked by anyone, so it was a bit of a grey area. Still, the Americans have not taken any such provocative action themselves, so escalating the situation may not have been the wisest course of action but then the Russians chose not to escalate it either (presumably on the grounds that a Type 45 destroyer is more than capable of tracking and shooting multiple jets out of the sky simultaneously, so it would have been costly). The BBC correspondent on the destroyer noted that the Russians had been firing guns, but over the horizon nowhere near the ship, so it clearly wasn't "warning shots" as such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mormont Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 The UK government: we place the highest importance on freedom of speech. It is vital that nobody refuse a platform to transphobia, homophobia or racism. Only by giving these views a platform for debate can a civilised society thrive. You can be sued for refusing to platform views that cause actual harm to people. Also the UK government: you can't show Pringles ads before 9pm. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-57593599 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartofice Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 36 minutes ago, Angus McGonagle said: The UK government: we place the highest importance on freedom of speech. It is vital that nobody refuse a platform to transphobia, homophobia or racism. Only by giving these views a platform for debate can a civilised society thrive. You can be sued for refusing to platform views that cause actual harm to people. Also the UK government: you can't show Pringles ads before 9pm. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-57593599 Don’t see how those two things are connected but yeah level of nanny state social engineering that gets thrown at advertising rules is silly. Does anyone genuinely think stuff like this is anything more than an attempt to look like you are doing something? Obesity isn’t caused by Pringles ads after Corrie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mormont Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 48 minutes ago, Heartofice said: Don’t see how those two things are connected Johnson likes to style himself as a freedom enthusiast - freedom of speech particularly, but also freedom of choice. Eat, drink, smoke what you like, was always his creed. Restricting advertising is a restriction on freedom of speech and an attempt to influence what people choose to eat. This restriction is being justified by the harms of obesity. The conclusion we must reach is that the government regard obesity as more harmful than bigotry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fragile Bird Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 I’m always bemused at stories like this. Do you think advertising doesn’t work? That companies throw millions at advertising because sales don’t go up? Do you think banning cigarette advertising had no impact on the drop in the number of smokers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 Can we please just at least get some PSA ads about the dangerous of Pringles that mirror the anti-marijuana ads from the 90's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A wilding Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 I have to agree. Allowing speech while banning certain types of advertising seems perfectly coherent to me, and I am in favour of both. The main issue is that while Johnson is very protective of the right to right wing speech of the populist kind, his government is generally against the right to protest or to demonstrate against its policies, or indeed for any left wing cause whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A wilding Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 By the way, has anyone else spotted that UK mobile phone companies are starting to add roaming charges for travel to Europe again, now that Brexit makes it possible? Throughout the whole Brexit campaign they all consistently swore that they would not, and were still doing so right up until the final Brexit agreement was signed. What a surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartofice Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 30 minutes ago, L'oiseau français said: I’m always bemused at stories like this. Do you think advertising doesn’t work? That companies throw millions at advertising because sales don’t go up? Do you think banning cigarette advertising had no impact on the drop in the number of smokers? I’d say that obesity is not caused by ads for fried chicken before 9pm, and banning them will have zero effect. Obesity is a complex problem with numerous factors, and thinking it’s solved by simplistic solutions is really just about looking like you are doing something. But no, I don’t see any connection between this and ‘free speech’, it’s a seriously tenuous stick to try and beat the government with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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