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Daeron the Daring

The reason I don't give Old Nan any credit.

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I think old Nan is just an old Nan.  But I don't see why we should rule out giving her stories credit.  Seems to me that this is the kind of series where many of the ancient fairy tales and old wives tales and common tales may end up coming true in one sense or another.   The wordly-wise, cynical, elitist, and power-hungry philosophers of KL might not understand the whole of reality.  And the hints of old wives tale that Old Nan gives us might also be fore-shadowing.

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On 6/3/2021 at 11:42 PM, Daeron the Daring said:

Doesn't it sound like a typical cliché horrors story? With the hunting of maidens and feeding their dead servants on children's flesh? It really does. It just sounds like Old Nan is tryna portray the worst to Bran without any knowledge but the stories she herself heard from somewhere.

We've received plenty of foreshadowing of cannibalism and of the living dead in the series so far.   The Frey Pie incident really was not something to celebrate.  And the "monsters versus maidens" thing is definitely a theme as well.   Has not Drogon already devoured a maiden? 

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On 6/4/2021 at 9:52 AM, Mourning Star said:

Don't forget Squire Dalbridge!

As you say, there are plenty of characters who are old enough to have been around when Aegon V was king.

No-one ever remembers Ser Bonifer Hasty.  But he was close to Rhaella; is haunted by some tragedy (which, if it is not just losing Rhaella, might have something to do with Summerhall); and is the only known contemporary of Duncan the Tall that is in a plausible position to be his descendant (very tall, promising tournament knight, at court at the same time as Duncan the Tall; is only a landed knight which implies no particular heritage). 

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8 hours ago, Mister Smikes said:

No-one ever remembers Ser Bonifer Hasty.  But he was close to Rhaella; is haunted by some tragedy (which, if it is not just losing Rhaella, might have something to do with Summerhall); and is the only known contemporary of Duncan the Tall that is in a plausible position to be his descendant (very tall, promising tournament knight, at court at the same time as Duncan the Tall; is only a landed knight which implies no particular heritage). 

 

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….Ser Bonifer Hasty and Rhaella Targaryen could have had a daughter who might’ve been passed off as a stillbirth to the Mad King. She could have been given to that chandler and could have married that lesser Payne and had Pod. She might not have run away, but could be one of the women whose identity is still a mystery till ADWD.

 

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On 6/4/2021 at 5:22 AM, LynnS said:

Nan hands down stories from a time when there was no written records.  I'm more curious about her stories of the Night King and Night Fort and what bits of truth can be found in them.  Same with the Wildlings and their stories.

Agreed!! Old Nan's Night Fort accounts include a detail I have picked at for years.

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where blind Symeon Star-Eyes had seen the hellhounds fighting - A Storm of Swords - Bran IV

First, Symeon is repeatedly accounted to be an Age of Heroes figure, before the Wall was built.  A contradiction that opens the possibility that the Night Fort site predates the Long Night into the Age of Heroes.

Second. How does a blind man see hellhounds fight? Perhaps he could see, and story of sapphires in sockets are singers embelishments of strong blue eyes? Or perhaps he lost his sight mid story like Aemond?

Third. This is the only account of substance for Symeon Star-Eyes. I looked, all other references are among lists of heroes and the story of his eyes.

Fourth. Hellhounds. I want to know more about the hellhounds.

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5 hours ago, Bobity. said:

First, Symeon is repeatedly accounted to be an Age of Heroes figure, before the Wall was built.  A contradiction that opens the possibility that the Night Fort site predates the Long Night into the Age of Heroes.

Or he's contemporary with the Wall and as the story is handed down; over time, the details are muddied and he becomes someone who lived during the age of heros.

5 hours ago, Bobity. said:

Second. How does a blind man see hellhounds fight? Perhaps he could see, and story of sapphires in sockets are singers embelishments of strong blue eyes? Or perhaps he lost his sight mid story like Aemond?

Perhaps he has a 3rd eye?  He might even be the face of the Black Gate, sitting on a weirwood throne somewhere.

Hellhounds = direwolves?  Was this the Night King and Stark of Winterfell doing battle?

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I don't think she's special or unique in that "destiny" kind of way. Her stories have probably been passed through the generations, and as such there is truth in them. 

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