Jump to content
Sign in to follow this  
SeanF

Better Call Saul

Recommended Posts

Oof. Poor Howard. 

It feels like forever since season five ended. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
22 hours ago, RumHam said:

Oof. Poor Howard. 

It feels like forever since season five ended. 

Howard can be a bit of a jerk, but he deserves nothing like the degree of hatred that Kim harbours for him.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The last time I can remember Howard being a jerk was back in season one I think. Putting Kim in "doc review" because he was mad at her. I can't really think of anything else he did that was actually him being a jerk. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 6/6/2021 at 4:35 PM, SeanF said:

I thought this was interesting.  It really looks as though Kim is going through with her plan to destroy Howard Hamlin.

https://www.devdiscourse.com/article/entertainment/1595724-better-call-saul-season-6-filming-clips-exposed-know-in-details

I don't think I want to watch that.  I can grant that Kim's heel turn was well done, and in hindsight it makes you, at least me, reflect on some of the inherent gender bias, by having always excused Kim's actions as being influenced by Jimmy....but the show made it clear that isn't quite right.  Jimmy may have been a conduit for opening the door in Kim's dark side, but the darkness was always there.  Ugh.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
43 minutes ago, RumHam said:

The last time I can remember Howard being a jerk was back in season one I think. Putting Kim in "doc review" because he was mad at her. I can't really think of anything else he did that was actually him being a jerk. 

 

14 minutes ago, Cas Stark said:

I don't think I want to watch that.  I can grant that Kim's heel turn was well done, and in hindsight it makes you, at least me, reflect on some of the inherent gender bias, by having always excused Kim's actions as being influenced by Jimmy....but the show made it clear that isn't quite right.  Jimmy may have been a conduit for opening the door in Kim's dark side, but the darkness was always there.  Ugh.

It seems remarkably petty.  I've had a couple of nasty employers, and if I could have put the boot into them at the time, I probably would have done. But, to do so years later?  Not really.  And, Howard wasn't that nasty.

It seems a combination of resentment towards Howard, anger at the way he treated Jimmy, greed (disguised as providing money for her pro bono work)  and a desire to hit back at the system (perhaps based on whatever happened to her mother).

My prediction is that Howard will take his own life, after being framed.  Saul will have a crisis of conscience, and Kim will just shrug.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
15 minutes ago, SeanF said:

 

It seems remarkably petty.  I've had a couple of nasty employers, and if I could have put the boot into them at the time, I probably would have done. But, to do so years later?  Not really.  And, Howard wasn't that nasty.

It seems a combination of resentment towards Howard, anger at the way he treated Jimmy, greed (disguised as providing money for her pro bono work)  and a desire to hit back at the system (perhaps based on whatever happened to her mother).

My prediction is that Howard will take his own life, after being framed.  Saul will have a crisis of conscience, and Kim will just shrug.

Ugh, yeah I just don't want to watch that.  I don't want Kim to be a villain. 

Agree, Howard wasn't that nasty and he's apologized for going overboard w/her, is actually not a bad guy at heart.  Another great heel turn of the show where Howard was seen as the villain only to find out it was really Chuck. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

as I recall she's mostly mad at him currently because he tried warn her about Chuck last season. That really got to her.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
11 hours ago, RumHam said:

The last time I can remember Howard being a jerk was back in season one I think. Putting Kim in "doc review" because he was mad at her. I can't really think of anything else he did that was actually him being a jerk. 

I don't remember the specifics, but Howard seemed like, less of a dick than Jimmy, but still a dick, to Chuck.  And I can't remember if he did anything  actively to sabotage Kim's relationship with the bank or Schwicter and whatever.  I would think that Jimmy going after him would be the more likely choice but Kim is probably the better lawyer and maybe a bigger grudge holder.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 6/8/2021 at 10:48 AM, Cas Stark said:

Ugh, yeah I just don't want to watch that.  I don't want Kim to be a villain. 

Agree, Howard wasn't that nasty and he's apologized for going overboard w/her, is actually not a bad guy at heart.  Another great heel turn of the show where Howard was seen as the villain only to find out it was really Chuck. 

I was positively surprised by the nuance they brought to Howard, because at the outset he seemed like the cartoonish cliche of a villain.

I, too, would hate to watch Kim sink into villainy.  I’d like to see her remain a fundamentally good person who is strong enough to opt out of Saul’s descent.  But that may not make for compelling TV.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Quote

We can confirm Bob is in stable condition after experiencing a heart related incident. He and his family would like to express gratitude for the incredible doctors and nurses looking after him, as well as his cast, crew and producers who have stayed by his side. The Odenkirks would also like to thank everyone for the outpouring of well wishes and ask for their privacy at this time as Bob works on his recovery.

https://www.avclub.com/bob-odenkirk-allegedly-hospitalized-after-collapsing-on-1847375227

Glad that it seems like he's going to be ok. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Scary stuff. What is also interesting is that Bob got into really good shape quite recently for Nobody. I don’t know if there is correlation there, I’m assuming he wasn’t a gym guy before that, whether the change had affected him  

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 6/6/2021 at 10:35 PM, SeanF said:

I thought this was interesting.  It really looks as though Kim is going through with her plan to destroy Howard Hamlin.

https://www.devdiscourse.com/article/entertainment/1595724-better-call-saul-season-6-filming-clips-exposed-know-in-details

Such a shitty article. Almost as if written by a bot purely for SEO purposes. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Sign in to follow this  

×
×
  • Create New...