DireWolfSpirit Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 I'll start this thread for posters interested in commenting on any of the trials, games, events. The big story in the U.S. currently is that we"'ve lost our fastest Woman's sprinter to a positive test for THC. Sha'Carri Richardson suspended from US Olympic team after testing positive for marijuana https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/02/sport/shacarri-richardson-positive-test-olympics-spt-intl/index.html Story is tragic and now the World is deprived of a ShaCarri Richardson vs Shelly Ann Fraser Pryce 100 meter showdown that held the possibility for the fastest times since FloJo herself was still racing. ShaCarri apparently failed her drug test after self medicating (weed) over the loss of her biological mother. There's an outside chance her suspension of 1 month allows her to still be eligible for a relay event in the Tokyo games, however US track and Field has yet to announce whether she will be allowed to race. Richardson won her 100 meter qualifying with the fastest U.S. time in years however her race and time were disqualified over the positive marajuana test results. Such a waste to not have her gifted speed be representing our country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 I have zero sympathy for Richardson (missing the games, not losing her mother), how stupid can you be? The men's 400m hurdles is the race I'm most looking forward to. Warholm v Benjamin could be amazing. Both have run insane times this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 I think it's pretty ridiculous that cannabinoids are still included on any banned substances list for athletic competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 Just now, DMC said: I think it's pretty ridiculous that cannabinoids are still included on any banned substances list for athletic competition. Absolutely, but even more ridiculous that she knows they are and took them regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 14 minutes ago, BigFatCoward said: Absolutely, but even more ridiculous that she knows they are and took them regardless. She was grieving. People in that state of mind are at a greater risk of having a lapse of judgement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 I mean, there's also the possibility she thought she could get away with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 Just now, Tywin et al. said: She was grieving. People in that state of mind are at a greater risk of having a lapse of judgement. 3 minutes ago, DMC said: I mean, there's also the possibility she thought she could get away with it. From what I've read weed always shows up. And athletes should know that, and that whatever they put in their body is their responsibility. It sucks that if it happened a month earlier she would be OK for Tokyo as the weed punishment is only a month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, BigFatCoward said: From what I've read weed always shows up. Not if it was a urine test. I know nothing about how the Olympics test, but if it was, it's definitely not a ridiculous belief to think she could cheat it. I'm just saying it doesn't necessarily have to be "ridiculously stupid" for her to believe she could beat it. It could even be something as simple as her thinking it would be out of her system by the time she was tested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, DMC said: Not if it was a urine test. I know nothing about how the Olympics test, but if it was, it's definitely not a ridiculous belief to think she could cheat it. I'm just saying it doesn't necessarily have to be "ridiculously stupid" for her to believe she could beat it. It could even be something as simple as her thinking it would be out of her system by the time she was tested. It was ridiculously stupid to risk it. Her mother died a week earlier I understand. So thinking it would be out of her system was a huge risk. Its such a shame as the womens 100m was shaping up to be awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 12 minutes ago, BigFatCoward said: It was ridiculously stupid to risk it. I dunno, comes across as pretty judgy to me. Especially when we're talking about breaking a stupid rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 29 minutes ago, DMC said: I dunno, comes across as pretty judgy to me. Especially when we're talking about breaking a stupid rule. Don't know how it can be considered judgy, she knows about the rule and has wasted the last 4 or 5 years of her life. The rule shouldn't exist, but it does and she fucked up. That's just facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Week Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 "Ridiculously stupid" sounds more like a judgement than just facts to me. The US team could let her participate and is choosing not to. I judge that as - ridiculously stupid. Eta- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 12 minutes ago, Week said: "Ridiculously stupid" sounds more like a judgement than just facts to me. The US team could let her participate and is choosing not to. I judge that as - ridiculously stupid. Eta- How would you describe her actions? She could have just jucied up like all the others that just smashed the US trials. At least there is a) a reason and b) a chance of getting away with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 16 minutes ago, BigFatCoward said: Don't know how it can be considered judgy As Week said, dunno how calling someone ridiculously stupid can't be considered judgy. She broke a stupid rule, apparently out of grief, and, again, thinking you can beat a weed test is not necessarily as stupid as you're portraying. Depends on the circumstances I suppose, but again I'm not familiar at all with how the testing process works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kairparavel Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 26 minutes ago, BigFatCoward said: Don't know how it can be considered judgy, she knows about the rule and has wasted the last 4 or 5 years of her life. The rule shouldn't exist, but it does and she fucked up. That's just facts. That is a terrible take as well. Her life isn't over and she'll continue to run and train. Or maybe she won't. But missing one race doesn't invalidate everything she's done to this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, kairparavel said: That is a terrible take as well. Her life isn't over and she'll continue to run and train. Or maybe she won't. But missing one race doesn't invalidate everything she's done to this point. I couldn't disagree with you more, and she also fucked over everyone who has been helping her. Everything she's done for the last 4 years has been leading to the Olympics, and she fucked up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Week Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 1 minute ago, BigFatCoward said: I couldn't disagree with you more, and she also fucked over everyone who has been helping her. Everything she's done for the last 4 years has been leading to the Olympics, and she fucked up. Is the air thin up on that high horse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 That was really week. Nearly as weak as most dopers excuses (though I'm giving her the benefit of the doubt, there is some research that weed can help with training due to assisting with chronic pain, but it is so likely to show up in a test I can't imagine any athlete would use it instead of other stronger, less traceable substances). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 It's not comparable at all to doping. It's also worth noting that every article seems to use the terminology "her biological mother" which suggest their relationship was complicated in some way. My father recently died and we also had a bad relation. It hurt a lot more than my dog dying last week, whom I loved dearly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry of the Lawn Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 5 hours ago, BigFatCoward said: That was really week. Nearly as weak as most dopers excuses (though I'm giving her the benefit of the doubt, there is some research that weed can help with training due to assisting with chronic pain, but it is so likely to show up in a test I can't imagine any athlete would use it instead of other stronger, less traceable substances). Who fucking cares? It's not any different than having a beer except that one is on the banned list. She didn't waste the last 4 years of her life. I'm sure there were some rewarding or positive things there beyond the Olympics. Just another reason the Olympics are and have been for awhile, a big fucking clown show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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