polishgenius Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 Just now, Corvinus85 said: Football is at a train station, ready to purchase a ticket to its final destination. On the destination board, there are four options: 1) Italy 2) Spain 3) Denmark 4) Home Sounds like a one-way ticket to a bad bad situation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tywin et al. Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 26 minutes ago, mormont said: That’s more like the England I know. Your conversion is welcomed by the mighty nation of Denmark. See you Wednesday. Hats off to Ukraine for making a run to the quarters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 The unfortunate part of this is southgate will probably be able to stay for as long as he wants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 25 minutes ago, Leap said: Gotta say some credit to the England squad. We chat a lot of shit but the results of the last WC and this Euros aren't nothing. At least compared to the decades before. Consecutive semi finals would be a barely believable fantasy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polishgenius Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 I enjoy criticising Southgate and will no doubt continue to be annoyed by his conservatism in future but it's hard to argue with making the semis without conceding a goal, especially now the attack is starting to come together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 20 minutes ago, Raja said: The unfortunate part of this is southgate will probably be able to stay for as long as he wants. That would be devastating, since he might continue England's best continuous run in international football for (checks notes) ever. Obviously the 1966 win dominates, but apart from that we have a fourth place (World Cup 90, 18) and third place (Euro 68, 96). Compared to the current run of fourth place in the 2018 World Cup, third place in the UEFA Nations in 2018-19 and now a minimum of fourth place in Euro 20 and potentially higher. Not a bad score sheet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 4 minutes ago, polishgenius said: I enjoy criticising Southgate and will no doubt continue to be annoyed by his conservatism in future but it's hard to argue with making the semis without conceding a goal, especially now the attack is starting to come together. The last team who went five games without conceding a goal was Italy in the 1990 World Cup, who went on to, er, come third. But still, a nice run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 It must be amazing for Sterling to look forward to play at Wembley in the semis. His school is literally over the road from Wembley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartofice Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 33 minutes ago, Raja said: The unfortunate part of this is southgate will probably be able to stay for as long as he wants. Never liked having Southgate as manager, always felt like the sort of booby prize manager Spurs would end up with. But can’t argue with almost any of the decisions he’s made during this competition. He’s been tactically astute, flexible, he’s used the squad in a really intelligent way. He’s often cautious, but then you see during this Ukraine game that he is able to set the team up in a more aggressive attacking manner. I feel very comfortable with him as manager going forward. I’d be scared we’d dump him and end up with a string of Capello type mangers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polishgenius Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 16 minutes ago, Werthead said: third place in the UEFA Nations in 2018-19 To be fair this means nothing, it's glorified qualifying mixed with glorified friendlies, but yeah, Southgate's done well. We can't deny he's been lucky with the draw- in both major tournaments the only team they've beaten that England wouldn't be expecting to beat most times is Germany- but they've started actually putting attacking plans into play on top of the defensive solidity. I was just complaining the other day that England have the best collection of dribblers possibly of any team in the world right now and aren't using them, but these two games have started to see exactly the tactics I wanted come to effect, even if I do still think Grealish should have started ahead of Mount for even more effect (to whit, have the dribblers make extended runs at angles across the opponent's lines of defence to draw players then plan runs into the gaps that leaves). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 43 minutes ago, Werthead said: Not a bad score sheet. Sure. I just don't really enjoy the football his teams play, especially given the talent available. Same with Martinez. Of course, this is subjective and people might not care if it takes you far in tournaments, and that's totally fine, but it's not an opinion I share. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mormont Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 59 minutes ago, polishgenius said: We can't deny he's been lucky with the draw- in both major tournaments the only team they've beaten that England wouldn't be expecting to beat most times is Germany The necessary note to this is that England historically have not got a great record of beating the teams they would be expecting to beat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polishgenius Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 7 hours ago, mormont said: The necessary note to this is that England historically have not got a great record of beating the teams they would be expecting to beat. Sure, and in fairness, this was true at the world cup too. They should have been able to beat Croatia. But this group is better than that group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denvek Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 12 hours ago, Heartofice said: Never liked having Southgate as manager, always felt like the sort of booby prize manager Spurs would end up with. And to be fair, that's kind of how he got the England job after the FA's first choice of Big Sam had to resign after getting caught being massively corrupt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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