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29 minutes ago, L'oiseau français said:

Oh boy! More women in the military to sexually assault! It’s all about choice!

Fortunately, there are some lawmakers making changes in this space. Not a fix - not sure there is a silver bullet - but an improvement nonetheless.

https://www.npr.org/2021/07/22/1019146746/senate-panel-greenlights-military-justice-reform-bill-after-years-long-push

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Not the same subject, but associated -- gee whiz, the people are maybe beginning to think the F.B.I.'s vetting of Kavanaugh was perhaps less than, um, thorough? Or even whole-hearted? And gee whiz, the Dems aided and abetted with utter ignorance.

https://www.balloon-juice.com/2021/07/22/senator-whitehouse-is-surprised-by-something-he-should-not-be-surprised-about-that-the-secondary-kavanaugh-background-investigation-was-rigged/

Money graf:

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. . . .As I explained at the time, background investigations conducted by the FBI for judicial and political appointments are NOT criminal investigations. They are done by special agents and investigators and analysts detailed for that duty and the client is not the DOJ, nor is it the Senate committee of jurisdiction. The client for these background investigations is the White House Counsel’s Office and the White House Counsel is in ultimate charge and provides the ultimate direction of the inquiry. Only information that the White House Counsel wants released is released to the Senate committee of jurisdiction for their review. This whole secondary/reopened investigation, just like a game of chance in a casino, was rigged for the White House by the White House through the White House Counsel and his office. The FBI was only ever going to respond to Don McGahn’s instructions and work within the parameters he gave them because that’s the process . . . ."


Gee, remember when politicians knew these things about their jobs?

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It's an agonizing decision. Live long enough to spend your hard-earn tax cuts, or continue to help prop up Trump's ego at all costs.

 

Republicans Stumble Trying To Show More Urgency About COVID-19 Vaccines
Several high-profile Republicans embraced the vaccine this week, but others are still stepping on the message.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/republicans-vaccine-hesitancy-message-change_n_60f9cdeee4b0ddf0097d10ea

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Several high-profile Republicans have recently embraced the coronavirus vaccine, finally getting their shots or encouraging others to get theirs. 

Fox News host Sean Hannity, who previously called COVID-19 a “hoax,” promoted the vaccine on his show this week. House Minority Whip Steve Scalise (La.) received the shot this week after saying months ago that he would be getting it “soon.” Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis has been urging Floridians to get vaccinated. And Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (Ky.) has repeatedly encouraged vaccinations in recent days. 

But House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) rejected the idea Thursday that Republicans have been speaking differently about vaccines.

“I don’t think we shifted in our tone,” he said, explaining that the rapid development of the vaccine has always been a top Republican achievement under former President Donald Trump. 

And some other Republicans aren’t quite ready to ditch the doubt and skepticism they’ve sown in the public about the danger of the virus and the effectiveness of the vaccines. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Tywin et al. said:

Money talks, and the big money interests that prop these shitheads up are telling them not to fuck up the economy. It's clear as day.

Well, Rand Paul might be a good test case. As a self-styled libertarian, you would think he would indulge any and all whims of the nearest CEO, up to including sacrificing his children's lives to the market. Last I heard he was still spouting anti-vax nonsense. We shall see.

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2 minutes ago, Martell Spy said:

Well, Rand Paul might be a good test case. As a self-styled libertarian, you would think he would indulge any and all whims of the nearest CEO, up to including sacrificing his children's lives to the market. Last I heard he was still spouting anti-vax nonsense. We shall see.

Expecting consistency from a Paul is like gambling on a slug to survive mainlining salt. 

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On 7/23/2021 at 9:31 AM, DMC said:

Hippy.  I proudly registered for the selective service at 18 and proceeded to contribute absolutely nothing to society for the next seven years.

Yeah it’s still preferable no one have to register at all. At best it’s needless chore, at worse it gives legitimacy to the idea of it being okay for government to force people to die for it.

On 7/23/2021 at 10:57 AM, L'oiseau français said:

Oh boy! More women in the military to sexually assault! It’s all about choice!

Yeah I have a little sister who expressed interest in joining the army. I didn’t feel comfortable with it knowing the higher chance of her getting sexually assaulted or harassed by her colleagues and dismissed as being divisive for complaining about her abuse(her abusers excused for just playing around.) 
I recently got into a conversation with a man who served in the military. Insisted Sexual harassment and assault was extremely rare and taken seriously in the military.

He noted that none of his female colleagues had ever disclosed to him about being sexually assaulted or harassed whilst in service.

When I brought up statistics on the rate of sexual assault and harassment he immediately brushed it off as just the result of women not reacting appropriately to military humor or hazing. He then went on to say such people who can’t take a joke are socially ostracized and rightfully so.

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Can we have an Olympics medal for Most Incoherent?

https://www.rawstory.com/fox-news-childless-liberals/

Of course J.D. Vance  proposes childless USians not be allowed to vote.

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"Let's give votes to all children in this country, but let's give control over those votes to the parents of the children," Vance told a conference on the Future of American Political Economy.

The hosts of Fox & Friends discussed the merits of the idea that the "childless left" should not be able to vote.

 

Of course They would, since the point of farting out something like this is chaos, hysteria, preposterosity and plain stupid, family style.

BTW -- what happens then to the terror that the Others are outbreeding WHITE MEN?


 

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1 hour ago, Zorral said:

Of course J.D. Vance  proposes childless USians not be allowed to vote.

Saw this the other day, definitely one of the more fascinating brainfarts I've seen in awhile.  It seems to be based on the premise that a number of high profile Dems - Harris, Buttigieg, Booker, AOC - are childless.  My first thought was, well, Buttigieg and AOC are definitely young enough where they still may have children.  Booker is too, and hell if he's still with Rosario Dawson may not be a bad idea to lock that down.  As for Harris, do her two stepchildren not count?

In the article I saw on it, Vance was quick to clarify that he was not referring to people that can't have children.  Not sure how we're enforcing that -- and does that mean adoption doesn't count either?  And what about the poor incels?  Surely we can blame women for choosing not to have children, but should we exacerbate the plight of the involuntarily celibate by denying them voting rights?  And what about priests or nuns?  So many questions...

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22 minutes ago, DMC said:

Saw this the other day, definitely one of the more fascinating brainfarts I've seen in awhile.  It seems to be based on the premise that a number of high profile Dems - Harris, Buttigieg, Booker, AOC - are childless.  My first thought was, well, Buttigieg and AOC are definitely young enough where they still may have children.  Booker is too, and hell if he's still with Rosario Dawson may not be a bad idea to lock that down.  As for Harris, do her two stepchildren not count?

In the article I saw on it, Vance was quick to clarify that he was not referring to people that can't have children.  Not sure how we're enforcing that -- and does that mean adoption doesn't count either?  And what about the poor incels?  Surely we can blame women for choosing not to have children, but should we exacerbate the plight of the involuntarily celibate by denying them voting rights?  And what about priests or nuns?  So many questions...

Soooooo……
 

J.D. Vance is an idiot?

Edit:  Ugh. I just read his Wikipedia page. I gotta quit doing these things to myself. 

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10 minutes ago, A True Kaniggit said:

Soooooo……
 

J.D. Vance is an idiot?

Edit:  Ugh. I just read his Wikipedia page. I gotta quit doing these things to myself. 

Probably one of the "ideas" that came from Peter Thiel, Vance's paymaster. Much like not allowing women to vote because they suck at democracy.

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It should also be noted that it appears J.D. Vance doesn't think George Washington and James Madison should have had the right to vote.  Both had stepchildren but apparently those don't count.

Perhaps Vance may be responding to a recent study that found 27% of respondents were "childfree," meaning they do not have kids and don't want them (as opposed to the "childless" who don't have kids but want them).  That survey found the childfree are just as happy/satisfied as those with children, which must of rankled the judgmental and devout like Vance.  The survey also found - 

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People who had or wanted kids typically reported "less warmth" toward women and men who opted to remain child-free.

While it's much worse for women, as a member of the childfree I am hardly surprised by this.  

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28 minutes ago, Martell Spy said:

Probably one of the "ideas" that came from Peter Thiel, Vance's paymaster. Much like not allowing women to vote because they suck at democracy.

Well unless Wikipedia is wrong, (which is of course impossible), he is one of those who criticized Trump in 2016, saying that Trump was terrible person at the time. 
 

But he has since backtracked, now claiming Trump was a great president, while apologizing for his previous statements. (Because Vance wants to run for office as a Republican senator in Ohio)

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Put Vance in a steal cage with my step-brother who doesn't have kids, but is an Army drill sergeant, and let the winner have one vote between the two of them. 

Vance lasting 20 seconds would be a stunning upset.

This fucking guy who said Trump was evil, but now thinks he's amazing that he has to run for office. What a worthless sack of shit.

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On 7/23/2021 at 11:33 AM, DMC said:

 

On 7/23/2021 at 1:57 PM, L'oiseau français said:

Oh boy! More women in the military to sexually assault! It’s all about choice!

This is going to sound way more flippant than how I actually feel about what is a very real and serious issue, but nonetheless...

If we ever hit a situation where the US Military resorts to reinstituting the draft, then regardless of gender we're all fucked anyway.

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1 minute ago, Paladin of Ice said:

If we ever hit a situation where the US Military resorts to reinstituting the draft, then regardless of gender we're all fucked anyway.

Indeed.

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29 minutes ago, larrytheimp said:

If I'm prez I'm initializing "the draft" immediately after inauguration, but it's just kegs of old recipe Newcastle on tap at all federal properties. 

So I don't get to invade anyone?

Has that been your plan this whole time? To get my hopes up, only to dash them?

 

That cuts real deep, and I respect that.

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