Ned’s Reputation for Honor

[Rondo]

What could explain the reputation is the fact that he took in his bastard.  One night with a woman is not going to ruin a man's reputation.  He did what most would not.  Take in his bastard.  But the reputation could have originated from a different matter.  What happened between Artur, Ned, and Howland is anything but honorable.  But it's not public knowledge that Howland and Ned probably fought without honor.  What story he and Howland told were lies.  Bringing the sword back to the Daynes is honorable but what led to that was not.  So far as the public knows, Ned took the sword back after winning a fair duel and brought his own bastard home to raise.  

Jon Arryn, like any father figure, would have suspected something unusual with Ned's story.  If there is anything unusual about Jon Snow.  Jon A is a party to the secret if there was a secret.  Lyanna is close to certain as the mother of Jon Snow.  But Rhaegar is not his father.  The father is one of the two, Brandon Stark or Mance Rayder.  Ned is also a strong suspect if the mother was not Lyanna.  

[Angel Eyes]

On 7/18/2021 at 5:57 AM, Rondo said:

What could explain the reputation is the fact that he took in his bastard.  One night with a woman is not going to ruin a man's reputation.  He did what most would not.  Take in his bastard.  But the reputation could have originated from a different matter.  What happened between Artur, Ned, and Howland is anything but honorable.  But it's not public knowledge that Howland and Ned probably fought without honor.  What story he and Howland told were lies.  Bringing the sword back to the Daynes is honorable but what led to that was not.  So far as the public knows, Ned took the sword back after winning a fair duel and brought his own bastard home to raise.  

Jon Arryn, like any father figure, would have suspected something unusual with Ned's story.  If there is anything unusual about Jon Snow.  Jon A is a party to the secret if there was a secret.  Lyanna is close to certain as the mother of Jon Snow.  But Rhaegar is not his father.  The father is one of the two, Brandon Stark or Mance Rayder.  Ned is also a strong suspect if the mother was not Lyanna.  

I'm not sure taking one's bastard to raise in their house is considered honorable; otherwise Walder Frey would be praised more.

[Makk]

2 hours ago, Angel Eyes said:

I'm not sure taking one's bastard to raise in their house is considered honorable; otherwise Walder Frey would be praised more.

The action of conceiving a bastard could be seen as dishonorable, but acknowledging him or her and taking responsibility could be seen as honorable.  Overall I would say this is fairly neutral. Walder Frey is seen as dishonorable for having fluid allegiances rather than his treatment of his children imo.