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The Prince Who Was Promised, dying again and again?


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Just an idea regarding what George might be setting up with the whole bit of Clegane coming back to life, and Aegon returning (real or not).

So far the TEC said the past and future can't be changed, but we don't know that, maybe Bran will manage to do what BR thought was impossible.

Regardless, what if the reason Gregor Clegane is now "undead" is because future-TEC is trying really hard to prevent the Prince Who Was Promised from being king, so that he can be king himself?

The idea would be that according to some timeline, some sort of hero-king is supposed to rule, known in prophecy as The Prince who was Promised. But TEC would have been trying to prevent that from happening.

Aegon VI, as Rhaegar expected, would have been such a fulfillment in a previous timeline, but he was killed by Gregor Clegane. Yet now Aegon returns, either because he survived or as a pretender. Note how either way he is in line to retake his place thanks to Varys, who claims to despise magic after hearing a voice speak to him in the flames when he was castrated. If Aegon was "killed" because the TEC wanted to prevent him from being king, Varys trying to put him back in the throne exemplifies how Varys "hates magic" and is working against a powerful sorcerer, knowingly or not.

Regardless, Aegon was supposed to have been killed by Gregor Clegane during the sack of KL according to the current "altered timeline", but now the timeline is correcting itself to bring back king Aegon VI, real or not, and the TEC is again trying to screw the timeline, this time by bringing Gregor back to life, because through the domino effect of doing so Gregor would eventually end up killing Aegon again, allowing the TEC to once more force the timeline to go in his own sake's direction so that he may eventually be king. Qyburn himself, just as many others, believe they are acting out of their own volition, but the TEC is playing 4D chess with them to get the timeline where he wants, with dreams and visions and more.

In fact, it might not even be that "the prince who was promised" is a good king, just a king which would end up preventing TEC from ever taking the throne. So in that case, even Rhaego could have been another candidate, as many others. Any king that might have gone down the path of burning all the weirwood or something along those lines.

Jon could be another TPWWP, another attempt by the timeline to correct itself, and once again the TEC would prevent him too from taking his rightful place.

Another thing; it is possible that Jon is Bran's brother specifically because the timeline is trying once again to course-correct, it "planted" a new TPWWP in the Stark line because if Bran is to become the TEC then the whole kin-slaying aspect could tilt Bran away from killing Jon. The question would be; will there be enough Bran left in the TEC to not kill Jon?

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"He does," his father admitted. "As did the Targaryen kings before him. Yet our way is the older way. The blood of the First Men still flows in the veins of the Starks, and we hold to the belief that the man who passes the sentence should swing the sword. If you would take a man's life, you owe it to him to look into his eyes and hear his final words. And if you cannot bear to do that, then perhaps the man does not deserve to die.

"One day, Bran, you will be Robb's bannerman, holding a keep of your own for your brother and your king, and justice will fall to you. When that day comes, you must take no pleasure in the task, but neither must you look away. A ruler who hides behind paid executioners soon forgets what death is."

That was when Jon reappeared on the crest of the hill before them. He waved and shouted down at them.

 

What do you think?

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Rhaegar is guilty of shortsighted vision.  Neither he nor any of his children is the prince who was promised.  The prince and Azor Ahai are the same person: Dany.  Jon will be on the opposite side of the war.  He will be the literal Ice King, the king of winter.  Wights and every manner of undead will be his army and his people.  

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1 hour ago, Rondo said:

Rhaegar is guilty of shortsighted vision.  Neither he nor any of his children is the prince who was promised.  The prince and Azor Ahai are the same person: Dany.  Jon will be on the opposite side of the war.  He will be the literal Ice King, the king of winter.  Wights and every manner of undead will be his army and his people.  

I don't know, I always liked the idea that Jon will be a hero as a mediator, not a warrior. he's half targ half stark. if anyone can bridge ice and fire its him. seems dangerous for either one side to win entirely. maybe Jon can break the cycle.

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3 minutes ago, Targaryeninkingslanding said:

I don't know, I always liked the idea that Jon will be a hero as a mediator, not a warrior. he's half targ half stark. if anyone can bridge ice and fire its him. seems dangerous for either one side to win entirely. maybe Jon can break the cycle.

Jon is a poor choice to mediate.  You may recall, he dragged the Night's Watch into conflict with the Boltons.  He is very much a Stark through and through.  He couldn't put aside his allegiance to the Starks aside and thus failed at his job.  

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1 hour ago, Rondo said:

Jon is a poor choice to mediate.  You may recall, he dragged the Night's Watch into conflict with the Boltons.  He is very much a Stark through and through.  He couldn't put aside his allegiance to the Starks aside and thus failed at his job.  

I mean he also made peace with the wildlings as a member of the watch, their more contemporary historic enemy. he also specifically chose not to bring any watchmen with him when he declared he would go south, and in that way the watch would have had no direct part in the conflict. his choice wasn't out of selfishness or ambition, but a desire to protect his sister. mance's plan would have avoided conflict if it worked, and mance is not Jons man, as much is he is melisadre's, who in turn is Stannis's, who is fighting the boltons justifiably. So such a person seems like and adept choice in my opinion. not that I don't want to see him leading the wild hunt or ride a dragon with a flaming sword. he could be either, but I doubt one side will wipe out the other entirely. after fighting a peace must be made like it was for the first men and the children of the forrest unless the fight is to extinction.

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