Lord Varys Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 2 hours ago, FictionIsntReal said: Barristan Selmy is a knight, and more specifically the Lord Commander of the Kingsguard. Keeping up his training would be entirely expected for him, and in fact he'd be regarded as failing in his responsibilities if he did otherwise. Barristan is approaching sixty in the books. Nobody would expect him to ride in the lists or keep in himself in good shape. He does that ... but he could just as well grow fat and feeble. 2 hours ago, FictionIsntReal said: Oh, he was a bravo, but I don't know that he'd be all that adept in a swordfight at present. Unlike Selmy, he's let himself go. I didn't say he would necessarily win in a swordfight. I said he still walks like a water dancer which means he might be able to some other bravo things as well. 2 hours ago, FictionIsntReal said: This "crucial place" was an ambush prepared in advance. And of course he would move around his little birds where & when they're needed, he doesn't have an unlimited supply to place everywhere. Nobody talked about an unlimited supply. But he could have enough to always cover crucial places ... and one of those could very well be his own cell. I mean, it is not that hard to imagine Varys wanting to ensure that nobody enters his chambers without his knowledge nor surprise and attack him there. 2 hours ago, FictionIsntReal said: In a situation where he'd already prepared those little birds to attack someone there, he could, although they'd make for very poor bodyguards as I already said. Perhaps if Varys genuinely thought they were the only thing between life & death they'd serve as his hail Mary, although I don't know that the kids themselves would be willing to risk their own lives. Again, that isn't a major point, you keep coming back to things that aren't relevant. 2 hours ago, FictionIsntReal said: Tyrion was still capable of walking, and he's someone who's fought in battle multiple times. Which is also kind of a joke and of itself. 2 hours ago, FictionIsntReal said: That was genuine. LF was instigating chaos in KL, whereas Varys wanted to keep things from spinning out of control prior to the invasion being ready. And the whole reason Varys was visiting Ned was to convince him to make a deal with the Lannisters and be sent to the Wall after confessing, which Joffrey blew up by executing him. Again, Varys was being genuine and was actually blindsided by Joffrey's decision. You are confusing things. Yes, Varys genuinely wanted and did convince the imprisoned Ned to take Cersei's deal. But Varys was just bullshitting Ned when he told him his sad tale about him being Robert's leal protector and doing his best of keeping him alive. Varys had no reason to keep Robert alive. He seems to have wanted to prevent the twincest from coming out ... but that's not the same as keeping Robert alive. 2 hours ago, FictionIsntReal said: Cersei has a number of people killed, would it be that unreasonable to think he could be included? Varys is not afraid of Cersei. In fact, Varys doesn't really seem to be afraid of very much or anything. He couldn't do what he does if he was afraid of things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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