The Commentator Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 19 hours ago, Lord Lannister said: Given the examples of resurrection we've seen(Beric, Stoneheart, wights) I'm inclined to say please don't do that to Aemon and just let the poor old man rest In peace. I have this theory which says Dany is capable of restoring life. Her dragon eggs were no longer viable and yet her dragons are strong and healthy. She was a child, still is by today’s thinking, when she tried to revive Drogo. That power to resurrect wil grow stronger as she matures from child to adult. She will learn a lot from Marwyn and put the pieces of the puzzle together. She is called “Mother” for good reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard of Banefort Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 For anyone who's interested, we had a Baseless Predictions thread a few months ago that was a lot of fun. Plenty of good theories to read through: https://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php?/topic/158298-baseless-predictions-thread/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CamiloRP Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 19 hours ago, EggBlue said: bolton men had actually died...so.. are you suggesting Theon is the hooded man killing them but he is not aware of this due to his mental struggle?.....if that's the theory I actually like it!:) weren't the murders committed by the Spearwives? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EggBlue Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 3 hours ago, CamiloRP said: weren't the murders committed by the Spearwives? that's what I thought at first when i read it but then there was the hooded man and then I read so many theories that I kinda got lost! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CamiloRP Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 34 minutes ago, EggBlue said: that's what I thought at first when i read it but then there was the hooded man and then I read so many theories that I kinda got lost! Yeah, it happens, I think they confess to it tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocratesSnow Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 Aerys + Ashara Dayne = Daenerys Tyrion Targaryen Old Nan is a Frey Mance is Mance, but Qhorin is someone else in disguise Lemore is Mellario Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aejohn the Conqueroo Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 On 10/1/2021 at 7:46 AM, CamiloRP said: weren't the murders committed by the Spearwives? They seem pretty adamant that they didn't have a hand in killing (was it Big or Little?) Walder, but iirc they don't deny the others in conversation with Theon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aejohn the Conqueroo Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 20 hours ago, SocratesSnow said: Old Nan is a Frey Any more than Hodor's real name to base this on? I have to admit it's a curious name, but it seems more of a red herring than clue to me. More evidence would be interesting though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocratesSnow Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 On 10/5/2021 at 5:55 PM, Aejohn the Conqueroo said: Any more than Hodor's real name to base this on? I have to admit it's a curious name, but it seems more of a red herring than clue to me. More evidence would be interesting though. FUll disclosure, I this is not my theory, here's a transcript of it from bridge4 youtube chan Transcript i could tell you about sir duncan at all those were always your favorites those weren't my favorites george r martin confirmed that sir brienne of tarth is a descendant of sir duncan natal a knight of the seven kingdoms but we're not done with sir dunk the long something clicked a couple weeks ago and i know i know a quick google search revealed that other people realized this years before i did but for me this is new and it's really cool old man is in fact afraid or rather the evidence that old man is afraid is much deeper than just the fact that hoarder's real name is walder like walder frey so here's my take old man is very old she's hodor's great-grandmother and hodor's nearly seven feet tall which is the same height as sir duncan the tall in bran stark's epic final dream sequence of the winterfell heart tree bran saw a brown-haired girl slender as a spear who stood on the tips of her toes to kiss the lips of a young knight as tall as hodor as the theory goes that was old man and sir duncan the tall so that's the old stuff which basically says that just like brienne hodor is a descendant of one of history's best ser duncan the tall we don't know yet whether bran will force hodor to hold that door or not but there's a chance that hodor selflessly protects bran just as sir duncan atoll allegedly sacrificed his own life in order to protect those he loved the tragedy of summerhall very cool but now let's integrate the clues that old man is afraid and thus hodor is also a fray the clues come from the third dunkin egg novella the mystery knight in a song of ice and fire there are a few very old people for the most popular being the three-eyed crow otherwise known as brendan rivers or bloodraven maester aemon old man and walder frey george r martin has confirmed that the four-year-old boy in the mystery night the boy who ran around acting like a pain in the ass at lord ambrose butterwell's wedding that boy was none other than our friendly neighborhood walder frey the child had the most irritating laugh dunk had ever heard a high shrill hiccup of a laugh that made him want to take the boy over a knee or throw him down a well so that's one of four let's keep going in this story egg mentioned his older brother maester eamon and of course egg's cousin bloodraven he played a really big role in the story so of these four people four of the oldest people alive at the beginning of the a song of ice and fire timeline old nan was the only one who did not appear in the novella the mystery night or did she in the mystery night lord butterell was married to a 15 year old frey girl that means the frey girl was 11 years older than walder frey who is just four years old in this story walter frey was 90 and 298 ac so that would imply that his older sister in the story the frey bride she'd be around 101 years old at the start of a song of ice and fire does that line up with old man yes it does according to bran old man had lived so long the lady cat had once told bran that all the brandon starks had become one person in her head but how old was old man she had come to winterfell to nurse a brandon stark according to the world of ice and fire the king beyond the wall raymond redbeard he slew lord willem stark in 226 ac so at the very latest lord willem's youngest child jocelyn she was born in 227ac and her older brother ed weil he was born in 226ac and that's at the very latest he may have been born before then willem's first child brandon stark he was born to a different mother so brandon may have also been born as late as 226 ac no later than that the point is old name was said to have come to winterfell as a wet nurse for a brandon stark who very well may have been this brandon stark right here if old name was the freight girl from the mystery knight then she was born around 196 or 197 ac and thus would have been at most 30 years old when this brandon stark was born when she was his wet nurse basically the timeline fits now before we get to the fun part let's go over the logistics three separate times during the course of the mystery night or the second blackfyre rebellion dunk told people that he and egg had planned to head north to winterfell and at the end of that story bloodraven allowed lord ambrose to live but he took nine tenths of ambrose's fortune and he pulled down his home stone by stone so think about it the fragra was 15 and freshly floured and her new husband lord ambrose he was 50 freshly widowed looked at as a traitor to the crown and homeless so there's a chance that that fray girl the 15 year old frey girl the bride she may have rode north to winterfell with sir duncan the tall and egg we'll have to wait for the next night of the seven kingdoms novella to find out but here's where it gets fun humor me and let's assume that that freight girl is old man what do we know about her first off she was not a virgin when she married lord ambrose her little four-year-old brother walder frey he had caught her hopping on the good foot and doing the bad thing in the frayed kitchen with the pop boy so that's an awesome nod to bran how bran barged in on jamie and cersei many years later but let's not get ahead of ourselves most fans assume that sir duncan old man got down at winterfell based off bran's heart tree vision right well during this story sir dunk carried the fray girl up to her room during the betting ceremony so we may have already seen the very beginning of old man and dunk's relationship how cool is that and one more thing during the betting ceremony a dwarf leapt in beside the frey bride and he grabbed one of her boobs so is this the sort of story that you like she then squealed and dunked grabbed the dwarf by his collar and threw him out of the room four pages for the duncan he must have been quite a man so they say last but not least if old man was this fray girl from the mystery knight born in 196 or 197 ac then that means that maester eamon was not in fact the oldest person in westeros because old man may have had him by an inch or two figuratively speaking but yeah that's a theory mayhap's old man was afraid what you telling him now only what the little lord wants to hear get your supper i want some time with him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocratesSnow Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 On 9/28/2021 at 8:13 PM, Jaenara Belarys said: Which is totally proof for Ramsay killing Little Walder. But he could be an eye witness to the fact that Bran and Rickon are not dead. His uncle Hosteen could leverage that info against the Boltons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaenara Belarys Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 32 minutes ago, SocratesSnow said: But he could be an eye witness to the fact that Bran and Rickon are not dead. His uncle Hosteen could leverage that info against the Boltons. Theon only brought Reek and two of his Ironborn to the mill. And he killed them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walda Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 Marillion lives! He might be shivering in the Eyrie, relying on his falcon for food and news of the world. Or perhaps he slipped down the mountain on the night the Lords Declarant treated with the Lord Protector. Or perhaps he was smuggled down to the Mountains of the Moon rolled in a tapestry. Wherever he is, he lives. That poor creature with the gloves and the blindfold and the cracked whispery voice was SweetRobin's whipping boy, who is used to apologising for sins he did not commit. Not sure what has happened to him, either, but as it involves Mord, it probably isn't good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aejohn the Conqueroo Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 12 hours ago, SocratesSnow said: FUll disclosure, I this is not my theory, here's a transcript of it from bridge4 youtube chan Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CamiloRP Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 12 hours ago, Jaenara Belarys said: Theon only brought Reek and two of his Ironborn to the mill. And he killed them. Or maybe it's because of what I said here Quote Essentially, to force Roose to kick the Manderlys and Freys out of Winterfell, with the Frey forces spent, the Dreadfort men outnumber everyone else and Ramsay can claim Winterfell without significant pushback from Walda's family. This is based on the fact that I don't think BW as able to do it, or would want to, since he had little motive (yes, he wants to move up the line of succession, but doing it by killing someone who's like twentieth in line seems stupid, and BW is supposedly very smart) and it would be really hard for him to "butcher" LW who's twice his size and beats him at every physical competition (lord of the crossing and jousting). He was there when LW was killed tho, as the blood on him shows. My version of events goes like this: Luton dices with LW, looses on purpose (is unlikely that a nine year old boy would win against a man) and promises to pay him latter that night. They meet, but BW is with him, Ramsay butchers LW and convinces BW to keep it a secret (by promisses or treats or both) and he even convinces BW to "discover" the corpse some time later, therefore instigating conflict. Then the whole thing happens, Ramsay offers BW a cloak made of the skin of the man who murdered LW, which sounds more like a treat towards him than a reward, a fight happens and even tho the fight is between Manderly and Frey men, Ramsay murders Luton to keep him quiet (the text even says that he 'silences' him). Then Roose is forced to send Freys and Marnderlys outside. Why do you think it so unlikely that Ramsay killed someone tho? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CamiloRP Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 Bonus theory I like and forgot about: Dragonbinder is a horn made for binding slaves, not dragons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aejohn the Conqueroo Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 5 minutes ago, CamiloRP said: Bonus theory I like and forgot about: Dragonbinder is a horn made for binding slaves, not dragons. I like this one. I'm not certain that it didn't bind the Iron Born to Euron at the Kingsmoot. There were a few rebels IIRC which is the only reason I'm not banging on about this daily on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tucu Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 52 minutes ago, CamiloRP said: Bonus theory I like and forgot about: Dragonbinder is a horn made for binding slaves, not dragons. From F&B: Quote His Grace grieved for Prince Aemon until the end of his days, but the Old King never dreamed that Aemon’s death in 92 AC would be like the hellhorns of Valyrian legend, bringing death and destruction down on all those who heard their sound. Both Euron and Moqorro are lying to Victarion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daeron the Daring Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Tucu said: From F&B: Both Euron and Moqorro are lying to Victarion. Wow, never catched that. I always suspected that Dragonbinder can't actually bind dragons (I never believed, rather.), but never had any other idea about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaenara Belarys Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 4 hours ago, CamiloRP said: Why do you think it so unlikely that Ramsay killed someone tho? I don't think it unlikely Ramsay killed someone. I do however think it unlikely that Ramsay would kill Little Walder because he might know something about the two Starks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CamiloRP Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 On 10/8/2021 at 12:04 PM, Aejohn the Conqueroo said: I like this one. I'm not certain that it didn't bind the Iron Born to Euron at the Kingsmoot. There were a few rebels IIRC which is the only reason I'm not banging on about this daily on here. yeah, same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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