SeanF Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 On 2/19/2022 at 4:23 PM, Apoplexy said: I'm not sure we should be casually discussing mental illness. We wouldn't discuss the etiology and pathogenesis of cancer or infectious disease here, why comment on mental health. This whole thread is wrong on so many different levels. Amateur psychology flourishes on the Internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoodedCrow Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 I was trying to show that modern psychological contructs don’t work if magic and skinchanging are real. Also, one might believe overpathologizing could be a problem, and report language does not make it real. I put lots of mistakes in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apoplexy Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 56 minutes ago, Damsel in Distress said: I don't mean to attack you but I think you are attempting to get the discussion closed because you don't like for us to criticize Arya. That is censorship. These are appropriate criticisms of Arya Stark. Criticize Arya all you want. But if amateurs commenting on the mental health of a fictional character they have never met does not seem inappropriate/plain wrong to you, I don't know what to say. Would you talk about which organism infected Jaime's stump that cause his fever or Urrigon greyjoy's finger that caused his death? Why discuss medical details that none of us can know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moiraine Sedai Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 On 2/20/2022 at 2:05 PM, Apoplexy said: Criticize Arya all you want. But if amateurs commenting on the mental health of a fictional character they have never met does not seem inappropriate/plain wrong to you, I don't know what to say. Would you talk about which organism infected Jaime's stump that cause his fever or Urrigon greyjoy's finger that caused his death? Why discuss medical details that none of us can know? What is inappropriate is when somebody on the forum calls Dany a “wench.” If you want to talk about something inappropriate, it is the latter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackLightning Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 18 hours ago, Moiraine Sedai said: What is inappropriate is when somebody on the forum calls Dany a “wench.” If you want to talk about something inappropriate, it is the latter. Right because isn't a wench defined as a young, lively female servant (who may or may not perform sexual acts for her employer). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apoplexy Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 21 hours ago, Moiraine Sedai said: What is inappropriate is when somebody on the forum calls Dany a “wench.” If you want to talk about something inappropriate, it is the latter. Apples and oranges. The characterization 'wench' is not a medical assessment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apoplexy Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 2 hours ago, BlackLightning said: Right because isn't a wench defined as a young, lively female servant (who may or may not perform sexual acts for her employer). I could call Dany a whore/murderer/messiah/liberator and it would be an opinion. If I try to assess her mental health and decide she has a 'mental illness', its just wrong because she is a fictional character and so I cannot meet her and she is written by a person who has no medical background. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaenara Belarys Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 On 2/21/2022 at 12:57 PM, Moiraine Sedai said: What is inappropriate is when somebody on the forum calls Dany a “wench.” If you want to talk about something inappropriate, it is the latter. Said person has not visited this forum since November 20th, 2021. Bringing up one person who said something stupid does not justify a "mental illness" thread of a fictional character written by someone who probably has nothing but a ridiculous chip in their shoulder. Much less the recurring posts: I'd prefer to not open up the General forum and see that this damn thing has been resurrected again. This entire forum is, bluntly, a waste of time (though a very fun one, I will wholeheartedly admit), and this thread is even more so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lannister Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 On 2/21/2022 at 2:57 PM, Moiraine Sedai said: What is inappropriate is when somebody on the forum calls Dany a “wench.” If you want to talk about something inappropriate, it is the latter. So it's alright to insult a fictional character you don't like but when someone insults a fictional character you like it's inappropriate? Alright.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rondo Posted February 25, 2022 Author Share Posted February 25, 2022 Arya is a multiple murderer and a serial killer of the worst kind. She taunted and tormented Rafford while he was bleeding to death. We have a window into her mind. Arya is crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aejohn the Conqueroo Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 I see the real deep thinking's still getting done on this thread. Good stuff. Yeah, that kid's a psycho alright... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angel Eyes Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 At the very least Arya has some form of shell shock/PTSD from the result of the ongoing series of events from the books, as well as some self-worth issues beforehand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angel Eyes Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 On the other hand it would be difficult to see who doesn't have shell shock at this point in the books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EggBlue Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 On 2/25/2022 at 8:22 AM, Rondo said: Arya is a multiple murderer and a serial killer of the worst kind. She taunted and tormented Rafford while he was bleeding to death. We have a window into her mind. Arya is crazy. you should have brought forth Dareon's case or something... tormenting and killing of that child murderer pervert doesn't bring about any sympathy.. if anything a "well done" goes to Arya for that kill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowen Marsh Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 On 2/20/2022 at 1:03 PM, Damsel in Distress said: Direwolves do not belong outside of the North. Nymeria is out of place among the civilized/less-savage South. Arya's bond is similar to how Shaggy had an effect on Rickon. The awkwardness of Nymeria being in the South and Arya's hate is causing the direwolf to behave this way. The Direwolf is far from her comfort zone. Jon himself will never make it out of the North. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowen Marsh Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 22 hours ago, Angel Eyes said: At the very least Arya has some form of shell shock/PTSD from the result of the ongoing series of events from the books, as well as some self-worth issues beforehand. Arya's issue is mental illness. PTSD is the result of the bad moments in her life but by itself is not insanity. Arya is not just suffering from PTSD. She is mentally ill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoodedCrow Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 What mental illness, do tell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaenara Belarys Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 4 hours ago, HoodedCrow said: What mental illness, do tell? Obviously it's a severe case of I-said-so-because-I'm-(fill in the blank. I would say a multitude of things, but I'm also a civilized person)-osis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light a wight tonight Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 On 2/21/2022 at 12:57 PM, Moiraine Sedai said: What is inappropriate is when somebody on the forum calls Dany a “wench.” If you want to talk about something inappropriate, it is the latter. You have one good point here, that it's inappropriate to call Dany a wench. That's a term used for lowborns and she's about as royal as it gets. You could, however, make a point on the state of her mental health using a syllogism: Targs are mad Dany is a Targ Dany is mad Of course only 50% of Targs are actually mad, so there's just a 50% chance that Dany is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lannister Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 On 3/5/2022 at 6:53 PM, Jaenara Belarys said: Obviously it's a severe case of I-said-so-because-I'm-(fill in the blank. I would say a multitude of things, but I'm also a civilized person)-osis. Her illness is obviously being a Stark. I hear it's hereditary and the only cure is euthanasia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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