EggBlue Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 Aurone Waters and his Lord brother were allies of Stannis before the battle of blackwater. but his brother died and left his 6 year old son as Lord of Driftmark , while Aurone went on to become master of ships in Cersei's council due to his pretty face. The last time we heard of Waters , it was in Cersei's last chapter in the feast. he had stolen all of the Crown's dromonds (which was a delight to read about for me). Pycelle thought he was going to the Stepstones to be a pirate and another council member feared Waters to join Stannis again. now, house Valerion are a great house who had been of important courtiers in Aerys's court, yet now it seems they are down to a kid-lord on top of losing their almost constant influential position in Targaryen reign . we don't know if lady Valerion is alive or the kid has any older sisters to rule in his stead. we only know about his uncle Aurone. Aurone is a bastard but still after capturing Dragonstone with Loras, he expected to be lord of Dragonstone or at least something according to Cersei's thoughts. I read in the wiki that in a winds of winter chapter (I don't know which one) there was a mention of some Lord of Waters who could be Aurone. but I've been thinking what if that's not the case? or that Aurone sees another opportunity in front of him? we already have seen uncles trying rob their niece/nephew from their castles or at least assume regency in their name. we have also seen Aurone interested in being a lord and we know of a bastard who stood beside a Targaryen and went on to become a great lord ( talking about Mr. Baratheon of course) . so, with Stannis up in freezing North and Dany stuck in Mereen who can this guy serve to get a castle and a title? perhaps even the ones that belong to his little nephew? well, YG is in Stormsend and he will most likely need some warships to aid Redwyne fleet in the fight with the ironborn assaulting the Reach, if he wishes to win the favor of Reach lords. my bet is this bastard will join Aegon which would also be a hint to all the alliances Targaryens and Valerions had over the years. what do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Commentator Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 Waters versus Greyjoy The two fleets are bound to meet at some point in time. Waters, Aegon, and Asha join forces and face off with Euron in the open seas. Odds are against Euron but he might pull out a victory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Targaryeninkingslanding Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 1 hour ago, EggBlue said: my bet is this bastard will join Aegon which would also be a hint to all the alliances Targaryens and Valerions had over the years. what do you think? seems likely enough based on proximity if Aurane is in the step stones. just as well he may decide to just be a pirate prince like Sal and be his own man. for the purpose of story telling though, I wouldn't be surprised if he joined one side or another. dany may be getting vic's fleet, so young griff getting his own fleet might even things out for the coming dance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lannister Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 Agree, he seems in the perfect position to hop on the (f)Aegon train. It would actually be an ironic historical parallel if Aegon's host is marching on King's Landing and Aurane's dromonds approach and Cersei thinks she's saved at the last second, only for Aurane to start sacking the city once he has access. A bit of poetic justice there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard of Banefort Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Widowmaker 811 said: Waters versus Greyjoy The two fleets are bound to meet at some point in time. Waters, Aegon, and Asha join forces and face off with Euron in the open seas. Odds are against Euron but he might pull out a victory. Maybe Aurane will end up marrying Asha, and then she can pass off Qarl the Maid’s bastard as his since they look the same This is my new head canon lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EggBlue Posted October 18, 2021 Author Share Posted October 18, 2021 yeah it'll be a beautiful scene... Sweet Cersei be the downfall of Queen Cersei.... I feel like Euron won't be defeated by Aegon/Asha/Aurone alliance but it could send him to some corner for a while 11 minutes ago, The Bard of Banefort said: Maybe Aurane will end up marrying Asha, and then she can pass off Qarl the Maid’s bastard as his since they look the same This is my new head canon lol. wait...what? Asha's pregnant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Commentator Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 21 minutes ago, EggBlue said: yeah it'll be a beautiful scene... Sweet Cersei be the downfall of Queen Cersei.... I feel like Euron won't be defeated by Aegon/Asha/Aurone alliance but it could send him to some corner for a while wait...what? Asha's pregnant? Aegon will have his moment of glory on the throne. Which can only happen if he defeats Cersei and Euron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Targaryeninkingslanding Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 3 hours ago, EggBlue said: wait...what? Asha's pregnant? I didn't think so, but could be a way to at least delay her execution maybe... its not unprecedented Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Fossoway Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 3 hours ago, EggBlue said: yeah it'll be a beautiful scene... Sweet Cersei be the downfall of Queen Cersei.... I feel like Euron won't be defeated by Aegon/Asha/Aurone alliance but it could send him to some corner for a while wait...what? Asha's pregnant? Wait... what? Qarl is not a maid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Targaryeninkingslanding Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 6 minutes ago, Jon Fossoway said: Wait... what? Qarl is not a maid? just pink cheeked and pretty. his sword play is actually quite... fierce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard of Banefort Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 3 hours ago, EggBlue said: yeah it'll be a beautiful scene... Sweet Cersei be the downfall of Queen Cersei.... I feel like Euron won't be defeated by Aegon/Asha/Aurone alliance but it could send him to some corner for a while wait...what? Asha's pregnant? We don’t know yet. There’s a theory that she is since after she had sex with Qarl in ADWD she thinks about how she needs to find some moon tea, only to then be immediately captured by the northmen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egged Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 I think he will take Dragonstone and get taken out by Dany. I would like an epilogue to TWoW being from Aurane's POV, with Dany's ships arriving and her attacking on Drogon. The whole situation there and around the Stepstones I think are a setup for a Battle of the Stepstones situation a la Fire & Blood, with this serving to setup Dany as a power to reckon with while also allowing her to not just appear as a boogey man. A mummer's dragon in a way. Quote A cloth dragon swayed on poles amidst a cheering crowd. [...] “A dead man in the prow of a ship, a blue rose, a banquet of blood … what does any of it mean, Khaleesi? A mummer’s dragon, you said. What is a mummer’s dragon, pray?” “A cloth dragon on poles,” Dany explained. “Mummers use them in their follies, to give the heroes something to fight.” The crowd is cheering the killing of the dragon, the thing given to the hero to fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EggBlue Posted October 19, 2021 Author Share Posted October 19, 2021 6 hours ago, The Bard of Banefort said: We don’t know yet. There’s a theory that she is since after she had sex with Qarl in ADWD she thinks about how she needs to find some moon tea, only to then be immediately captured by the northmen. man that infant would die in the winter and war... I hope she is not pregnant! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rotting sea cow Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Both Aurane Waters and Salladhor Saan are operating in the same regions. They definitively will be part of the story. It wouldn't be a surprise that they are already in contact although their motivations are somewhat different. The Stepstones are also an strategic place to restrict the passage of navigation and to hear news from all over the world. So chances are that they have heard about Dany and her dragons, they are very aware of the problems of the Reach and they have learned about Aegon's invasion. Both seems to look for financial gain in one way or another. Riches and lordship. But they might have other motives too. Will Aurane remember Velaryon's loyalty to the Targaryens? If yes, who will he support? Dany or Aegon? He could be already sailing towards Slaver's Bay and his gigantic ships will be helpful to bring troops to Westeros. However, I tend to suspect that Aurane will support Aegon. The reason is King's Landing is located in the northern bank of the Blackwater rush and as we saw with Stannis attempt to take the city, you need to cross the river and for that you will need ships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard of Banefort Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 7 hours ago, EggBlue said: man that infant would die in the winter and war... I hope she is not pregnant! Well, even if she is, she still has nine months left to get out of there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willam Stark Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 21 hours ago, EggBlue said: well, YG is in Stormsend and he will most likely need some warships to aid Redwyne fleet in the fight with the ironborn assaulting the Reach, if he wishes to win the favor of Reach lords. Even if he wanted to help the Redwyne fleet, his warships wouldn't make it in time and he has other things to deal with. If Aurane joins Aegon, he will most likely be involved in the upcoming Dance of Dragons 2.0 imho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrorthatflapsinthenight9 Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 I am pretty sure that he'll join Aegon and help him take King's Landing and possibly fight Euron Greyjoy and his Iron Fleet later in TWOW. If not Aegon he'll join Daenerys, and be one of her toxic advisors like Tyrion and the Tattered Prince (even if he may stay in Essos, after gaining Pentos, rather than follow Dany to Westeros). In either's case it will be for a price, a naturalisation and a high position and riches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisdaw Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Dany will try and get pregnant by him. Doesn't mean he couldn't have fought on the other (losing) side during the Dance beforehand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lannister Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Dany and Auranne? Well there's a ship I haven't seen before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aemon Darkbrother Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 wasnt it his father who passed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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