US Politics: Turkeys Available Here

[JGP]

1 hour ago, mormont said:

It's also wilfully ignorant of the reality of adoption. The simple fact is, the idea that the number of parents looking to adopt comes anywhere close to the number of children who would be carried to term (and - there's no ignoring this - the fact that a large number of those children would not be appealing to the parents who do want to adopt) is just absurd. This argument is in effect an argument for enormous numbers of children being raised by the state or by charities.

Anyone suggesting that adoption is an alternative to legal abortion is either woefully or wilfully uninformed about the issues to the point where they're not qualified to discuss them, let alone make judgments on them. But here we are.

Of less importance but still worth considering, is the attribution of cost. The average [no complication] birth is around 10k in the US.

And Adoption itself isn’t without issues as you’ve said. Like, my half sister [older than I, Mom’s firstborn when she’d been in university after leaving seminary or whatever Catholic Nuns do] has a host of emotional issues that may be related to being adopted. Not all of those kids adjust as well as one might hope, even when adopted by a loving family as she was.

[Ser Scot A Ellison]

3 minutes ago, Zorral said:

So, over rule Roe v. Wade.  Leave it up to the states.  Anti-abortion voters stay riled are even more motivated to vote only candidates who are anti-abortion.  Take over the blue states then, with gerrymandered voting and anti-abortion candidates everywhere.

How will they do that in States with Democraticly controlled Legislatures?  The more likely action is if the Republicans take the House and Senate is to pass a bill declaring a fetus a person when a heartbeat is detected then claiming State law is superceded based on the Supremacy Clause…

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[HoodedCrow]

Half the supremes were hired to mess with women’s rights. I think beery Kavanaugh wants to adopt some kids. So does “ Anita Hill” judge Thomas. His wife fund raises for anti abortion groups. Amy hasn’t adopted enough children to atone for her biases. Can we force her?

[DMC]

6 minutes ago, Ormond said:

I really don't know if this is Trump's real organization or some complete scam group that's trying to make money off of his supporters.

You just described the same exact thing twice.

[Rippounet]

5 minutes ago, Zorral said:

So, over rule Roe v. Wade.  Leave it up to the states.  Anti-abortion voters stay riled are even more motivated to vote only candidates who are anti-abortion.  Take over the blue states then, with gerrymandered voting and anti-abortion candidates everywhere.

That would seem the "logical" decision, especially since conservatives are so big on "States' rights." But far too many justices seem willing to go further.
Politically speaking, it's quite smart, as leaving it to the states can no longer be seen as the "worst" outcome, and might not bring as much outrage. Thomas and Alito being so extreme on this might also make the Trump appointees look "moderate" in comparison.
One way or another, it's hard to see Roe survive. What a regression.

[Zorral]

14 minutes ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said:

How will they do that in States with Democraticly controlled Legislatures?  The more likely action is if the Republicans take the House and Senate is to pass a bill declaring a fetus a person when a heartbeat is detected then claiming State law is superceded based on the Supremacy Clause…

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Gerrymandering.  It's chipping away at everything to do with women's ability to be equal members of society in every way by going right to the core of it -- forcing women to be pregnant most of their lives.

You know everytime something like this happens people go well they did that but they can't do that.  And then they do that.  How many decades before people learn?

[DMC]

6 minutes ago, Zorral said:

Gerrymandering.

Gerrymandering will not help the GOP capture legislatures in solidly blue states.  Indeed, in solid blue states it's the Dems that do the gerrymandering (or have an independent commission).  However, gerrymandering in the state legislatures of swing states Arizona, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin could very well push through such laws if they can capture the governor's seat as well - particularly because none of these states have laws protecting abortion.  That's dicey electorally though, could lead to quite the blowback.

[HoodedCrow]

Pregnant, and potentially responsible for multiple kids. Paternity testing will stop some of it. We have dna testing now. Hi King Robert Baratheon, you’re not the father…

 

[A Horse Named Stranger]

Ofc not.